The truth about Terrance Williams

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Let me preface this by saying I appreciate the contributions of Terrance Williams. I am not "complaining"...I am making an observation and I said this BEFORE the season. I really wondered aloud if Terrance was ready to be a #2 on a team with a REAL chance to compete for a Super Bowl.

Terrance Williams is a guy who can do things in space. Terrance Williams is a guy who can make plays when he is OPEN! He is pretty good in "sand lot" and/or "broken" plays....much like the kid we had a couple of years ago who left via free agency to Jacksonville.

The problem with this is as follows: being NFL "open" and being "open" are 2 different things. And Romo is a legitimate NFL QB that can "throw" guys open. He can "lead" WRs. He can throw the ball where the WR is "supposed" to be...or throw it BEFORE a WR comes out his break. People really do not understand how much "harder" Romo's life is when you don't have disciplined and/or good route runners! This is not an offense that functions well with a freestyle passing game!

Romo is not like a lot of these young QBs that are coming out of the college spread offenses where they can only throw the ball when they see the WRs "numbers" Which is why a lot of these young QBs are struggling at this level.

Terrance is such a WR. Coming out of Baylor where RG3 was his QB....where there are multiple rumors that there were wasn't much of a playbook...and they played the fastbreak spread style offense.

With as much attention Dez gets....the guy on the other side of him should be feasting. And it really makes the life of Romo, the OL, the RB and the entire offense way too hard when Romo cannot on a consistent basis simply throw the ball to the ONE on ONE option. That throw in the first quarter...that either has to be caught by Terrance..or the defender would need to have to interfere with him to break it up. In the fourth quarter where we were down by the goaline...and Dez was probably being doubled/tripled.....the ball went right through Terrance hands. Why? Because Terrance is not really a guy who catches in traffic or does well in bang bang plays.

So since he is who we got....do we move forward believing that he can be a legitimate #2 on a Super Bowl team. Or do we realize that Romo has a few years left in him and we really need to see if you can get a veteran WR (Larry Fitzgerald type) to put the finishing touches on this offense.

Keep in mind...I know all of the stats and what this offense has done this year....yada....yada. I am talking about competing at the HIGHEST level....I am talking about more consistency and less "cardiac kids" football.
 

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I would think that either the coaches have seen him improving over the past two years or we will be adding a WR this offseason. I trust that the coaches know exactly what his strengths and weaknesses are and have a handle on if he can grow into a legit #2.
 

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I would think that either the coaches have seen him improving over the past two years or we will be adding a WR this offseason. I trust that the coaches know exactly what his strengths and weaknesses are and have a handle on if he can grow into a legit #2.

I agree with you....but a lot of the routes I "think" he would excel at...are usually reserved for Dez. And when we are in a 2 WR set....the defense pretty much plays the run...doubles Dez and dares Terrance to beat one on one coverage.
 

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Let me preface this by saying I appreciate the contributions of Terrance Williams. I am not "complaining"...I am making an observation and I said this BEFORE the season. I really wondered aloud if Terrance was ready to be a #2 on a team with a REAL chance to compete for a Super Bowl.

Terrance Williams is a guy who can do things in space. Terrance Williams is a guy who can make plays when he is OPEN! He is pretty good in "sand lot" and/or "broken" plays....much like the kid we had a couple of years ago who left via free agency to Jacksonville.

The problem with this is as follows: being NFL "open" and being "open" are 2 different things. And Romo is a legitimate NFL QB that can "throw" guys open. He can "lead" WRs. He can throw the ball where the WR is "supposed" to be...or throw it BEFORE a WR comes out his break. People really do not understand how much "harder" Romo's life is when you don't have disciplined and/or good route runners! This is not an offense that functions well with a freestyle passing game!

Romo is not like a lot of these young QBs that are coming out of the college spread offenses where they can only throw the ball when they see the WRs "numbers" Which is why a lot of these young QBs are struggling at this level.

Terrance is such a WR. Coming out of Baylor where RG3 was his QB....where there are multiple rumors that there were wasn't much of a playbook...and they played the fastbreak spread style offense.

With as much attention Dez gets....the guy on the other side of him should be feasting. And it really makes the life of Romo, the OL, the RB and the entire offense way too hard when Romo cannot on a consistent basis simply throw the ball to the ONE on ONE option. That throw in the first quarter...that either has to be caught by Terrance..or the defender would need to have to interfere with him to break it up. In the fourth quarter where we were down by the goaline...and Dez was probably being doubled/tripled.....the ball went right through Terrance hands. Why? Because Terrance is not really a guy who catches in traffic or does well in bang bang plays.

So since he is who we got....do we move forward believing that he can be a legitimate #2 on a Super Bowl team. Or do we realize that Romo has a few years left in him and we really need to see if you can get a veteran WR (Larry Fitzgerald type) to put the finishing touches on this offense.

Keep in mind...I know all of the stats and what this offense has done this year....yada....yada. I am talking about competing at the HIGHEST level....I am talking about more consistency and less "cardiac kids" football.

Williams started the season on fire and got that hand injury. If you dont know WRs need their hands. Hes seems healthy now and has 4 TDs in the last 3 games with a 26.4 yrds per catch avg. He's fine. When you have a RB who is getting almost half the offensive touches for the yr and superstar WR and a HOF TE how many touches is the #2 WR supposed to get? A #2 WR getting 10 TDS in a yr is very good. as a matter of fact in terms of #2 WRs only Randall Cobb has more Tds then him.
 

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Williams started the season on fire and got that hand injury. If you dont know WRs need their hands. Hes seems healthy now and has 4 TDs in the last 3 games with a 26.4 yrds per catch avg. He's fine. When you have a RB who is getting almost half the offensive touches for the yr and superstar WR and a HOF TE how many touches is the #2 WR supposed to get? A #2 WR getting 10 TDS in a yr is very good. as a matter of fact in terms of #2 WRs only Randall Cobb has more Tds then him.

There is a serious voice of reason! nice job laying out the facts!
 

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I have said it before (throughout the season in threads calling out TW and calling for a better #2 WR) and I will say it again. Williams is a quality #2 and does exactly what is required of him when the time comes for him to step up.

Anyone else reminded of the slant Harper took to the house against the Niners in the 92 playoff game?
 
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Enough toys for the offense. More defense please

I know my observation is not popular....but I am trying to find a way for the Cowboys to ride Tony for 3 or 4 more years. At this advanced age we get the best Romo we have ever seen. And that is because of adding the running game. Now if we can add someone that can make Romo's deceision making in the passing game easier....he could play another 4 years at a high level. I mean...whose to say Romo cannot play until his is 40 like Manning, Brady, Favre etc...I mean remember...part of the reason Manning and Brady have played at a high level well into their late 30s and early 40s is because they don't get hit much. Well with this running game and a more "consistent" #2 WR...imagine how little Romo would get hit!
 

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Do we forget that it took Dez two and a half seasons (He didn't come on until mid-way through the 2012 season) before he looked like a legitimate NFL WR?

Williams is doing exactly what he's being told to do. Who do you think is helping spread defenses out? They fear Williams' speed, we have him going deep, it opens up plays for both Dez, Beasley, and Witten. And Williams being in sync with Romo on those "broken plays" is VERY valuable because Romo has to improvise often. Romo and Robinson had a connection because of Robinson having a knack for finding a soft spot in the D when Romo scrambles in the backfield, the same with Williams.

There's no need to look for someone else in the draft. We already took Street in the last draft, let's watch him develop.
 

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Let me say this though, and I know we will in no way have the cap to get him, but I am interested in what Fitzgerald will ask for. But, my guess is, he'll go to someone like the Patriots or another playoff team so he can get a Super Bowl before he retires; and they'll all want him. He's still one of the best WRs in the game despite his mediocre stats.
 

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I have said it before (through out the season in threads calling out TW and calling for a better #2 WR) and I will say it again. Williams is a quality #2 and does exactly what is required of him when the time comes for him to step up.

Anyone else reminded of the slant Harper took to the house against the Niners in the 92 playoff game?

True...but Dallas also won a Super Bowl with Kevin Williams as the #2 WR! That would NEVER happen on THIS team. People seriously underestimate how good that coaching staff and defense were. Not to mention the bell cow Emmit Smith was.

I love this team. I hope the defense continues to get better. I just really believe we can extend Romo's career if we eliminate the acrobatic stuff he has to do from time to time to get the job done.
 

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TWill may not seem like a polished one-on-one receiver at times, and I find the premise that Baylor didn't have a disciplined offense interesting because RGIII fits that scenario, but.......TWill is what, in his second year? His game winning TD yesterday showed some maturity as he realized his pattern was ahead of Romo (Romo states this in his presser) so TWill reverses course and gets open.

There was even a comparison made yesterday of the second coming of Alvin Harper.

Williams gets my support because he has shown a lot in the month of December, and now in January. I doubt he'll ever be a diva, and as such, teams can usually only afford one of those.
 

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Let me say this though, and I know we will in no way have the cap to get him, but I am interested in what Fitzgerald will ask for. But, my guess is, he'll go to someone like the Patriots or another playoff team so he can get a Super Bowl before he retires; and they'll all want him. He's still one of the best WRs in the game despite his mediocre stats.

You are making my point....we are at that point with where Romo is in his career. We are at the point where you add Anquan Boldin to the Ravens/49ers. Where you add a Welker to the Broncos. I really wanted Sproles BOTH times he went elsewhere. I am not saying build through free agency....but Romo still has to pull a rabbit out of his hat too often. And he is getting too old for that!
 

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You are making my point....we are at that point with where Romo is in his career. We are at the point where you add Anquan Boldin to the Ravens/49ers. Where you add a Welker to the Broncos. I really wanted Sproles BOTH times he went elsewhere. I am not saying build through free agency....but Romo still has to pull a rabbit out of his hat too often. And he is getting too old for that!

You are talking about two teams that don't have a Dez Bryant. We already have our big WR, I'm really just talking about putting the icing on a cake here. I could say the same about getting Calvin Johnson Jr. next to Dez, but it's not realistic.

Williams is a realistic #2 WR; especially with a team that spreads the ball as much as us.
 

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One criticism I really have of Williams is his lack of winning one-on-one contested battles.

If he gets away from the defensive back covering him, he makes plays.

If he doesn't, he doesn't.

When it's at all contested, he loses.

I'd like to see him improve there for sure.
 

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Baylor's playbook and what it asks of the WRs is not simple. The reads and adjustments made by WRs from these kinds of offenses are likely what's facilitating their relatively faster acclimation to the NFL.

And Williams put up 1800+ yards the year after Griffin left for the pros. His production at Baylor was not limited to a particular QB playing sandlot football.
 
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