The truth about Terrance Williams

[birdwells1]

I have said it before (throughout the season in threads calling out TW and calling for a better #2 WR) and I will say it again. Williams is a quality #2 and does exactly what is required of him when the time comes for him to step up.

Anyone else reminded of the slant Harper took to the house against the Niners in the 92 playoff game?

He didn't take that slant to the house but it was one of the greatest call and plays in Cowboys history.

 

[JohnsKey19]

You cant have great players everywhere. He's a solid and improving #2 given his inexperience. My only gripe with him is he clearly isn't comfortable consistently catching the ball away from his body. If somehow he could master that, especially in the red zone, he could be a force given all the attention Dez gets in the end zone. At 6'2 210+ he's gonna have a considerable size advantage against most #2 CBs.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

T Wil is a good no 2 and a lot of teams would be love to have him. Offense is not a issue with this team.

I know my obeservation is not popluar

One criticism I really have of Williams is his lack of winning one-on-one contested battles.

If he gets away from the defensive back covering him, he makes plays.

If he doesn't, he doesn't.

When it's at all contested, he loses.

I'd like to see him improve there for sure.

THIS is the point I am making. And I know you cannot have "steak" at every position....but we have NO ONE behind Romo...and Romo has a chance to really make a run at a Super Bowl and possibly the HOF if he can string 3 more "career" years and Super Bowl together ala Kurt Warner. But the magician act is a lot to ask of him....especially as he gets older. You don't EVER see Manning or Brady have to do that. And quite frankly...this offense ask players to win their battles. We do not scheme guys open very much. So if Terrance is not going to be a guy that likes to "play in traffic" .....I am just wondering aloud if we need to be proactive. Romo would not have to hold onto the ball so much if he "trusted" Terrance to win his battles.

And I cannot stress enough that this is not a "I don't like Terrance" thread. This is more about I recognize who he is/isn't....and recognize what this team/scheme and/or QB asks for and needs. And we are finally at the doorstep of the big one..and I think we can be for the next 2 - 3 years....but we will HAVE to make the life of Romo easier. We took a BIG step towards that this year with the running game...but when Romo drops back...we need him to be able to get rid of the football quickly and reduce the amount of punishment he takes!

 

[dmq]

Play to TWs strengths. Throwing something up there and expecting him to out muscle the defended probably isn't one of his strengths.

 

[iceberg]

You cant have great players everywhere. He's a solid and improving #2 given his inexperience. My only gripe with him is he clearly isn't comfortable consistently catching the ball away from his body. If somehow he could master that, especially in the red zone, he could be a force given all the attention Dez gets in the end zone. At 6'2 210+ he's gonna have a considerable size advantage against most #2 CBs.

so I went back and looked at 2013 highlights from twill and ya know what? he can catch either way. the vast majority of his catches I saw in the video that were on his chest were because that's where room put it. when he's had to reach out for it, he has.

this is like hyper nit-picking to me cause of some issue against a given player but maybe you're right. all I see is some dude catching the vast majority of balls coming his way and (2) critical catches last night. I don't care if he 1 handed them, stuck a tar-coveredball to his jersey, or sews backets on his pads to catch the ball in.

catch it.

and he does it very well.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Play to TWs strengths. Throwing something up there and expecting him to out muscle the defended probably isn't one of his strengths.

But that is what this offense asks for. Guys on the outside need to win battles! Guys on the outside need to out muscle. They need to be physical. Against the Cardinals...not only did we not have Romo....Terrance was ERASED. Which is WHY Weeden targeted Dez 12+ times. The QB glanced at Terrance a couple of times in the first quarter...then realized Terrance would not be able to help that day!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Sounds like complaining after a playoff win.

Yeah considering he had more than half the points we scored. I say keep him.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

so I went back and looked at 2013 highlights from twill and ya know what? he can catch either way. the vast majority of his catches I saw in the video that were on his chest were because that's where room put it. when he's had to reach out for it, he has.

this is like hyper nit-picking to me cause of some issue against a given player but maybe you're right. all I see is some dude catching the vast majority of balls coming his way and (2) critical catches last night. I don't care if he 1 handed them, stuck a tar-coveredball to his jersey, or sews backets on his pads to catch the ball in.

catch it.

and he does it very well.

No hidden agendas here bro. Cowboys fan through and through. Excited that we are finally a legitimate SB contender. Just making an observation of how we give ourselves the best chance of the next 3 years. Just like people will say we need a pass rusher, CB, Safety....I am also wondering what a Bill Belichek, Dick LeBeau, Dom Capers or Steve Spagnolla would do to make Romos life miserable knowing how to shut Terrance down.

 

[JohnsKey19]

so I went back and looked at 2013 highlights from twill and ya know what? he can catch either way. the vast majority of his catches I saw in the video that were on his chest were because that's where room put it. when he's had to reach out for it, he has.

this is like hyper nit-picking to me cause of some issue against a given player but maybe you're right. all I see is some dude catching the vast majority of balls coming his way and (2) critical catches last night. I don't care if he 1 handed them, stuck a tar-coveredball to his jersey, or sews backets on his pads to catch the ball in.

catch it.

and he does it very well.

I'm not nit-picking at all. I really like the player. He was known as a body-catcher coming out of college. It's not like i randomly made this up. And I agree with you, he CAN make hands catches away from his body.He has shown that at times, sometimes in spectacular fashion. To me it appears to be something that's not natural for whatever reason and it's a struggle for him at times. I think it's something he can work on to improve. TO worked tirelessly on this even though he clearly seemed to fight at times to make "hands" catches.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I am sure we could go through the roster and find quite a few starters where you could say...we need better players at this position.

When filling a roster you have to decide if you can afford to spend all of the money at one position group or are you going to go a little cheaper in some areas.

We have decided that the best way to help Tony Romo is to invest in the offensive line and run the ball more. We have Dez, Witten, Williams, Murray and Beasley who currently make up the bulk of the passing game. We can deal with a guy that got the same number of TDs during the year that Calvin Johnson got and at a VASTLY reduced amount of money that Calvin got and Dez will get.

As others have said...we can nit pick all we want but we can not have steak for every meal and right now we need more steak on the defensive side of the ball but we have enough steak on offense.

Complaining that we need to do better for romo...we have with the oline and running game...next if you want to help romo you help out on the Defensive side of the ball...you make that defense MUCH better than it is. A good defense can be more important to a QB than a 2nd WR when you have the other weapons on offense we already have.

A good defense has gotten more QBs to a winning Playoff and Superbowl run than a good 2nd WR has.

I get that someone wants to try and start a good convo...I hate that they feel the need to write something in the title or premise that starts with "The Truth"...because 99% it should read..."MY OPINION IS" instead of "The Truth"

Also it would be nice if it were not the same topics that have happened mutliple times before by other users....Not saying not to do it...I am just telling..."THE TRUTH"

 

[Crown Royal]

He looks like a second year receiver who is alright but has work still to do.

 

[iceberg]

I am sure we could go through the roster and find quite a few starters where you could say...we need better players at this position.

When filling a roster you have to decide if you can afford to spend all of the money at one position group or are you going to go a little cheaper in some areas.

We have decided that the best way to help Tony Romo is to invest in the offensive line and run the ball more. We have Dez, Witten, Williams, Murray and Beasley who currently make up the bulk of the passing game. We can deal with a guy that got the same number of TDs during the year that Calvin Johnson got and at a VASTLY reduced amount of money that Calvin got and Dez will get.

As others have said...we can nit pick all we want but we can not have steak for every meal and right now we need more steak on the defensive side of the ball but we have enough steak on offense.

Complaining that we need to do better for romo...we have with the oline and running game...next if you want to help romo you help out on the Defensive side of the ball...you make that defense MUCH better than it is. A good defense can be more important to a QB than a 2nd WR when you have the other weapons on offense we already have.

A good defense has gotten more QBs to a winning Playoff and Superbowl run than a good 2nd WR has.

I get that someone wants to try and start a good convo...I hate that they feel the need to write something in the title or premise that starts with "The Truth"...because 99% it should read..."MY OPINION IS" instead of "The Truth"

Also it would be nice if it were not the same topics that have happened mutliple times before by other users....Not saying not to do it...I am just telling..."THE TRUTH"

and in my opinion, that's the truth!!!!

 

[Nightman]

Let me preface this by saying I appreciate the contributions of Terrance Williams. I am not "complaining"...I am making an observation and I said this BEFORE the season. I really wondered aloud if Terrance was ready to be a #2 on a team with a REAL chance to compete for a Super Bowl.

Terrance Williams is a guy who can do things in space. Terrance Williams is a guy who can make plays when he is OPEN! He is pretty good in "sand lot" and/or "broken" plays....much like the kid we had a couple of years ago who left via free agency to Jacksonville.

The problem with this is as follows: being NFL "open" and being "open" are 2 different things. And Romo is a legitimate NFL QB that can "throw" guys open. He can "lead" WRs. He can throw the ball where the WR is "supposed" to be...or throw it BEFORE a WR comes out his break. People really do not understand how much "harder" Romo's life is when you don't have disciplined and/or good route runners! This is not an offense that functions well with a freestyle passing game!

Romo is not like a lot of these young QBs that are coming out of the college spread offenses where they can only throw the ball when they see the WRs "numbers" Which is why a lot of these young QBs are struggling at this level.

Terrance is such a WR. Coming out of Baylor where RG3 was his QB....where there are multiple rumors that there were wasn't much of a playbook...and they played the fastbreak spread style offense.

With as much attention Dez gets....the guy on the other side of him should be feasting. And it really makes the life of Romo, the OL, the RB and the entire offense way too hard when Romo cannot on a consistent basis simply throw the ball to the ONE on ONE option. That throw in the first quarter...that either has to be caught by Terrance..or the defender would need to have to interfere with him to break it up. In the fourth quarter where we were down by the goaline...and Dez was probably being doubled/tripled.....the ball went right through Terrance hands. Why? Because Terrance is not really a guy who catches in traffic or does well in bang bang plays.

So since he is who we got....do we move forward believing that he can be a legitimate #2 on a Super Bowl team. Or do we realize that Romo has a few years left in him and we really need to see if you can get a veteran WR (Larry Fitzgerald type) to put the finishing touches on this offense.

Keep in mind...I know all of the stats and what this offense has done this year....yada....yada. I am talking about competing at the HIGHEST level....I am talking about more consistency and less "cardiac kids" football.

I had to go back and see if this was a thread from earlier in the season that was bumped so you could eat crow. I really can't believe you would write this after the plays TWill made yesterday.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I am sure we could go through the roster and find quite a few starters where you could say...we need better players at this position.

When filling a roster you have to decide if you can afford to spend all of the money at one position group or are you going to go a little cheaper in some areas.

We have decided that the best way to help Tony Romo is to invest in the offensive line and run the ball more. We have Dez, Witten, Williams, Murray and Beasley who currently make up the bulk of the passing game. We can deal with a guy that got the same number of TDs during the year that Calvin Johnson got and at a VASTLY reduced amount of money that Calvin got and Dez will get.

As others have said...we can nit pick all we want but we can not have steak for every meal and right now we need more steak on the defensive side of the ball but we have enough steak on offense.

Complaining that we need to do better for romo...we have with the oline and running game...next if you want to help romo you help out on the Defensive side of the ball...you make that defense MUCH better than it is. A good defense can be more important to a QB than a 2nd WR when you have the other weapons on offense we already have.

A good defense has gotten more QBs to a winning Playoff and Superbowl run than a good 2nd WR has.

I get that someone wants to try and start a good convo...I hate that they feel the need to write something in the title or premise that starts with "The Truth"...because 99% it should read..."MY OPINION IS" instead of "The Truth"

Also it would be nice if it were not the same topics that have happened mutliple times before by other users....Not saying not to do it...I am just telling..."THE TRUTH"

Well said.

 

[DeaconMoss]

I would say Escobar is a guy who needs to step up more. Twill played a great game yesterday. So what he didn't get the jump ball. That's why its called a jump ball. 50% chance of completing it. Escobar should be more of a matchup issue than he shows.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I would say Escobar is a guy who needs to step up more. Twill played a great game yesterday. So what he didn't get the jump ball. That's why its called a jump ball. 50% chance of completing it. Escobar should be more of a matchup issue than he shows.

I agree with this as well. The "good" teams are going to take away your best players...and the "other" guys HAVE to step up.

 

[kramskoi]

I know my observation is not popular....but I am trying to find a way for the Cowboys to ride Tony for 3 or 4 more years. At this advanced age we get the best Romo we have ever seen. And that is because of adding the running game. Now if we can add someone that can make Romo's deceision making in the passing game easier....he could play another 4 years at a high level. I mean...whose to say Romo cannot play until his is 40 like Manning, Brady, Favre etc...I mean remember...part of the reason Manning and Brady have played at a high level well into their late 30s and early 40s is because they don't get hit much. Well with this running game and a more "consistent" #2 WR...imagine how little Romo would get hit!

I think he can play at this level for 3 - 4 more years behind the current line...he will be 35 in April...37 - 38 is not a bad year to retire. That said, they need to keep the current commitment to running the ball and not deviate. The offensive line can still get better, they are all under 30, save Free. Good o-line play and rushing will keep the offense humming along. The defense is where they need to improve, chiefly pressure off the edges. Keep linebacker depth, look for Carr's replacement...maybe a 1-tech, athletic space eater DT. They have all the pieces they need on the offensive side, especially if they can retain Free at a reasonable salary.

The window is 3 - 4 years wide in my opinion...four if Romo really wants a legacy. I don't think more than that though. They have to protect him now, and the o-line looks like it can be good enough over the next 3 or 4 years to do that.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

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Terrence "The Truth" Williams


I like it... Without him we lose... And that's the truth!!

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

He has done excellent this year and Dallas was lucky to have grabbed him. Having two Dez Bryants would obviously be preferable, but Williams is a pretty good option as a number 2 WR.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Terrence "The Truth" Williams


I like it... Without him we lose... And that's the truth!!

The game winning TD he scored was more on the OL and Romo. A couple plays earlier in a one on one situation Terrance was the RIGHT read. And Romo gave him a chance. And the play required a NFL type throw and catch. It was in traffic. And the ball went RIGHT through Terrance hands. Tough catch? Not at THIS level. And NOT for playoff caliber teams. It is not a "nice to have". It is a MUST to reach your goals. And if Romo does not get protection and move around in the pocket....doing the 'Romo" thing...Terrance never gets that chance to catch the ball...and he was wide open by the way...and that is his strength. That is the point I am making.