The Two NTs of Boston College

[Manwiththeplan]

We will need him to get off the ball and be able to make plays in the backfield and show some quick burst....

what was his 10 yard spilt compared to Raji and Hill? What about broad jump? What about short shuttle? Or even his vertical? These workouts measure explosion and burst more than a 40. The 40 measures top speed and stamina

 

[DaBoys4Life]

what was his 10 yard spilt compared to Raji and Hill? What about broad jump? What about short shuttle? Or even his vertical? These workouts measure explosion and burst more than a 40. The 40 measures top speed and stamina

IDK but I doubt it's going to be much better than has 40 time.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

IDK but I doubt it's going to be much better than has 40 time.

I doubt it's great, but I'm willing to bet that the 10 yard split will be similar to the other guys. I could be wrong, but imo Brace's 40 time is about as meaningful as Felix Jones bench press last year

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I doubt it's great, but I'm willing to bet that the 10 yard split will be similar to the other guys. I could be wrong, but imo Brace's 40 time is about as meaningful as Felix Jones bench press last year

I wouldn't go that far. Considering the knock on Brace at Senior bowl was that he's slow and lethargic and he only has one move...I'd doubt he's going to wow us with anything else and I'd rather have more than just a space eater at NT someone that can penetrate up the middle would be nice.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I doubt it's great, but I'm willing to bet that the 10 yard split will be similar to the other guys. I could be wrong, but imo Brace's 40 time is about as meaningful as Felix Jones bench press last year

I doubt it

part of the 40 is getting off the line

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I need moar updates nao!!!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I need moar updates nao!!!!

Dorrell Scott

6'3" 312 4.92 40

damn

the NFLDraftScout new format is killing me

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2009combine/2009-defensive-linemen-nfl-combine-results.html <=use that

 

[Alexander]

Raji ran a 5.13 and hill ran a 5.11 raji weighs more and hill is one lb less than Brace.....

And?

Raji is a different type of player entirely. He's not your typical NT and he could even be a 3-4 end. Brace is built more like a Jamal Williams and if he two-gaps and occupies blockers, you don't need him running 40 yards.

As for Hill, you can take the Stillman College player and I'll take the one who has produced at a high level against Big East competition.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Dorrell Scott

6'3" 312 4.92 40

damn

the NFLDraftScout new format is killing me

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2009combine/2009-defensive-linemen-nfl-combine-results.html <=use that

I've been using that and footballs future...Sammie Lee Hill and Jarron GIlbert not going to bench ?

Ziggy Hood put up 34 reps....

 

[Alexander]

no, that just hightlights how unexplosive he is

I've been down on him for awhile now

Tell me how a 40 is going to tell you how "explosive" he is. This ought to be funny.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

And?

Raji is a different type of player entirely. He's not your typical NT and he could even be a 3-4 end. Brace is built more like a Jamal Williams and if he two-gaps and occupies blockers, you don't need him running 40 yards.

As for Hill, you can take the Stillman College player and I'll take the one who has produced at a high level against Big East competition.

Hill > Brace

I'll take the raw athlete over someone that only produce cause he was next to an All-American.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Tell me how a 40 is going to tell you how "explosive" he is. This ought to be funny.

not that alone, but to get a great 40, you have to get a good jump at the whistle

 

[Alexander]

We will need him to get off the ball and be able to make plays in the backfield and show some quick burst....

One day people will realize that Wade Phillips has played his defense with both quick penetrating nose tackles and space-eating blobs.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

One day people will realize that Wade Phillips has played his defense with both quick penetrating nose tackles and space-eating blobs.

Jamal Williams isn't just a space-eating blob

Phillips' 3-4 is gap-intensive, you have to be able to split gaps, as well as contain your gap, Brace can only contain his gaps

 

[DaBoys4Life]

One day people will realize that Wade Phillips has played his defense with both quick penetrating nose tackles and space-eating blobs.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Alexander]

not that alone, but to get a great 40, you have to get a good jump at the whistle

And what's to say he didn't? I haven't seen his 40, but I'd bet he was huffing and puffing for the last 20 of it.

Playing nose tackle has zero to do with whether or not he's quick out of the blocks like a track athlete. If he was as bad as you are making out due to his 40 time, then I doubt we and a host of other teams would have been crawling all over him for the last month.

 

[Alexander]

What does that have to do with anything?

It has a lot to do with it. You are acting like we have to have a Ratliff clone. We don't.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

And what's to say he didn't? I haven't seen his 40, but I'd bet he was huffing and puffing for the last 20 of it.

Playing nose tackle has zero to do with whether or not he's quick out of the blocks like a track athlete. If he was as bad as you are making out due to his 40 time, then I doubt we and a host of other teams would have been crawling all over him for the last month.

he was probably too slow getting off the blocks too

the interest in Brace is called doing your due dilligence

they probably all want to see if Brace can do more than just take up space, which he can't

crimeny, Raji weighs 7 more lbs. and did his in under 5.15

 

[DaBoys4Life]

It has a lot to do with it. You are acting like we have to have a Ratliff clone. We don't.

You're right we don't need a Ratliff clone however, we do need someone that will have to be doubled team being slow off the snap only move being the bull rush I highly doubt he will demand the double teams that we would want him to.

 

[Alexander]

Jamal Williams isn't just a space-eating blob

Phillips' 3-4 is gap-intensive, you have to be able to split gaps, as well as contain your gap, Brace can only contain his gaps

Hardly. BC ran quite a few zone blitzes and he even had to operate in space.

But look at that 40 time. He just can't play.