The Umpteenth Roy Williams Gripe Thread **Merge | Deion Apology Audio Post #589**

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royw11utdc;3101258 said:
How much did he cost you?? hmmmm still waiting... It's amazing to me that anybody who considers themselves a fan has so much hate for 1 player and can't support the guy b/c he is 1 of 53 on this roster and works his butt off in practice to try & get things going in the right direction. That is 1 thing you can't take away from him is everyone says how great his work ethic is.. What exactly has he done to hurt the team? They are 7-3 and 1 game where he made a couple mistakes doesn't mean he has hurt the team. Whenever he is at fault for losses & when you are paying him or gave up the draft picks to get him then come back and talk to me! I am one of Roy's biggest fans and have been disappointed in the way things have gone so far, but I still know the talent the guy possesses and I truly believe that he will turn this thing around and start being a big time receiver for the Dallas Cowboys! God bless & Happy Thanksgiving folks

If he were just one of 53, and not consuming roughly 1/20th of our salary cap and didn't cost us 2 or more future starters, I wouldn't be that worried about his production, because, ironically if he didn't take up so much of our resources, he wouldn't even be dressing for games given his production to date.
 

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Doomsay;3101321 said:
If he were just one of 53, and not consuming roughly 1/20th of our salary cap and didn't cost us 2 or more future starters, I wouldn't be that worried about his production, because, ironically if he didn't take up so much of our resources, he wouldn't even be dressing for games given his production to date.
You say this as if it's abnormal. If you take the top 32 paid receivers in the league, on average they take up approximately 1/20 of their team's salary cap. This only seems abnormal because median != mean. Shocking concept, I know.
 

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theogt;3101331 said:
You say this as if it's abnormal. If you take the top 32 paid receivers in the league, on average they take up approximately 1/20 of their team's salary cap. This only seems abnormal because median != mean. Shocking concept, I know.

Well, he's tied for 103rd in receptions and 54th in yards. I think that he's well below the median / mean production for a receiver of his salary level, which is the point, he's not playing anywhere close to his pay grade. Of course, that doesn't even factor in the implicit opportunity cost of lost draft picks.
 

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Doomsay;3101347 said:
Well, he's tied for 103rd in receptions and 54th in yards. I think that he's well below the median / mean production for a receiver of his salary level, which is the point, he's not playing anywhere close to his pay grade. Of course, that doesn't even factor in the implicit opportunity cost of lost draft picks.
Very clearly he's the 103rd best receiver in the league.

Good argument. And congratulations on being able to use NFL.com's statistics feature.
 

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theogt;3101349 said:
Very clearly he's the 103rd best receiver in the league.

Good argument. And congratulations on being able to use NFL.com's statistics feature.

Thanks, I though that a factual look at his relative performance was more useful than simply labeling him a top receiver, which of course he isn't now.
 

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tomson75;3101211 said:
If you spent half as much time actually reading some of the more rational responses concerning Roy Williams as you do whining about people complaining about him....and then telling those people they need tampons and/or the sand removed from their vaginas....you might realize that not everyone that thinks he's playing like crap simply thinks he sucks, or hates him.

..but whatever, keep acting like a certain Britney Spears fan.
:laugh2: that was a good read, van wilder
 

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theogt;3101349 said:
Very clearly he's the 103rd best receiver in the league.

Good argument. And congratulations on being able to use NFL.com's statistics feature.

Where would you rank him?
 

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Deion talks about the Raider vs Cowboys match up and some other issues on the Irvin Show...

Deion on Irvin Show

I do think Deion is trying to help some kids for the most part.

But. But I do think that his way of always looking at sports in general as a business would probably take away some enjoyment from the kids because their minds aren't always wanting to think about the serious issues in life.

And that's not a bad thing. They are kids. It's not the worst thing in the world that they just wan to focus some time on playing a game. We as adults tend to always think preaching to kids and always giving them lessons is going to shape them. But there is a time and place for those issues to be addressed.

Deion publicly apologizes to Roy Williams. Interesting. But I can see right through BS. #21 wants a sit down interview for his gig at the NFL Network.

Don't do it Roy.

Roy is in a situation where the only way he can 'win' is to produce at a high level for the rest of the season while helping the Cowboys win a playoff game. Do that and things will calm down a whole lot.
 

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jimmy40;3101140 said:
Roy Williams sucks. Now I'm a true Cowboys fan.

tomson75;3101211 said:
If you spent half as much time actually reading some of the more rational responses concerning Roy Williams as you do whining about people complaining about him....and then telling those people they need tampons and/or the sand removed from their vaginas....you might realize that not everyone that thinks he's playing like crap simply thinks he sucks, or hates him.

..but whatever, keep acting like a certain Britney Spears fan.

you_just_got_pwned.jpg
 

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Everlastingxxx;3101159 said:
Which jock you sniff?
OMG, that was funny. Got a little butt hurt there. Huh? Let us know when your on the field.
 

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tomson75;3101211 said:
If you spent half as much time actually reading some of the more rational responses concerning Roy Williams as you do whining about people complaining about him....and then telling those people they need tampons and/or the sand removed from their vaginas....you might realize that not everyone that thinks he's playing like crap simply thinks he sucks, or hates him.

..but whatever, keep acting like a certain Britney Spears fan.

still thinking about the sandy ****** post huh? I liked it too.
 

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JonJon;3101088 said:
I smell a merge a-comin'

they won't merge this because


1. that RW merge thread is a stark reminder of just how much people "do" want to talk about Roy.
2. the thread is buried and they won't want to see it on the 1st page again.
 

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jimmy40;3101517 said:
still thinking about the sandy ****** post huh? I liked it too.

Yeah...I still marvel at its wit and originality. You're a true thinker.

jimmy40;3101523 said:
I'd have to give a **** first. I don't.

Lmao....you've painted a pretty clear picture the last few days pal.

Do we need to find the percentage of posts in the last three days that directly concern your defense of Roy Williams or your aggression towards Tony Romo and Miles Austin? It'd be fun...let me know.

Why don't you find your blanky, make a cup of hot cocoa and relax. It'll be OK....even if some people don't like your boyfriend.
 

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JonJon;3101562 said:
Good. Now maybe you can stop your whining.
Just for Thanksgiving dinner, but I'll be back to whine about your whining later.
 

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tomson75;3101589 said:
Yeah...I still marvel at its wit and originality. You're a true thinker.



Lmao....you've painted a pretty clear picture the last few days pal.

Do we need to find the percentage of posts in the last three days that directly concern your defense of Roy Williams or your aggression towards Tony Romo and Miles Austin? It'd be fun...let me know.

Why don't you find your blanky, make a cup of hot cocoa and relax. It'll be OK....even if some people don't like your boyfriend.

Wow, cocoa, Brittney Spears, David Hasselhof. You guys are a tough bunch.
 

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Good. Can't wait to see Deion give him some hard hitting questions and Roy deflect blame and make more excuses.
 
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