The upside about not bringing in a better backup QB

[Rockport]

There's no upside to not having a capable backup QB if it means we're done if Romo goes down. The only one's who think there's an upside to it are the fans who look forward to a top 5-10 pick every year.

Who's the better QB you want to bring in? Or are you just *****ing as usual?

 

[Alexander]

Who's the better QB you want to bring in?

Stock answer. But par for the course.

But in your own primitive way, you are right.

The opportunity came and went in April.

 

[Rockport]

Stock answer. But par for the course.

But in your own primitive way, you are right.

The opportunity came and went in April.

Not a stock answer but a proper question. I can't stand posters who do nothing but complain but have nothing to offer as a solution. KJJ is the poster child.

 

[erod]

So that is the sanity life preserver now?

Well, no big deal, everyone has a bad backup situation. That is just life in the NFL.

The difference is the circumstances.

What team has a 30 plus QB coming off multiple injuries with a backup QB situation as bad as ours?

If Romo gets hurt again, you want to be as bad as possible.

 

[KJJ]

I can't stand posters who do nothing but complain but have nothing to offer as a solution. KJJ is the poster child.

Look who's talking! Dude, you're the poster child for complaining. Lol

 

[KJJ]

Who's the better QB you want to bring in? Or are you just *****ing as usual?

Where did I say there was a better QB to bring in? Seeing that you're asking, Nick Foles would be better than what we have now. You're just complaining as usual. You haven't started a thread in awhile because they all end up in the Rant Forum.

 

[CCBoy]

Look who's talking! Dude, you're the poster child for complaining. Lol

When ever there is something that is distorted by the media and a core group of always disgruntled fans...guess who is usually the first to pop up? Yea, the burn barrel bunch who think anything positive is being naïve and wrong.

 

[CCBoy]

Where did I say there was a better QB to bring in? Seeing that you're asking, Nick Foles would be better than what we have now. You're just complaining as usual. You haven't started a thread in awhile because they all end up in the Rant Forum.

Now, if one is looking for topic and not just ridicule...here one goes:

Have you given serious consideration that what happened, is the desire directions of the current group of talent evaluators, coaches, and GM? Maybe they prefer to develop up from within and grow a team committed and functional to Dallas scheme players. Finally.

 

[CCBoy]

Not a stock answer but a proper question. I can't stand posters who do nothing but complain but have nothing to offer as a solution. KJJ is the poster child.

Hang in there Amber...you aren't alone in rooting for what's there.

 

[Cowboy06]

Another tanked season. Not looking forward to that.

I agree. The only way I tolerate a really bad season is if I know in 2017 we draft a QB that wins us 4 or 5 Superbowls in the future...Crystal ball anyone?

 

[Cowboy06]

Now, if one is looking for topic and not just ridicule...here one goes:

Have you given serious consideration that what happened, is the desire directions of the current group of talent evaluators, coaches, and GM? Maybe they prefer to develop up from within and grow a team committed and functional to Dallas scheme players. Finally.

Holy crap...you mean a real dialogue with points and counterpoints? That would be interested all jokes aside. But you would need to have a scheme in place that's worth something. I could almost say okay on offense, but the defense is nothing special at all. In my opinion a scheme has to have a concept, but you also need good to better players to execute those schemes...we are lacking the following in my opinion:

• Young QB that's good enough for us not to draft another young QB
• Right Offensive Tackle
• Speed WR
• Another WR opposite of Dez
• Two (2) young and capable TEs (the jury is out on the last two drafted TEs)
• Two (2) DEs that can rush and play the run. None of what we have is worth a toot...and can't stay away from trouble off the field.
• One good 1 technique
• Depth for the 3 technique
• A healthy LB corp.
• A secondary that can intercept the ball

Now some of these may emerge this training camp and season. Trades could be made, free agents signed, etc. However, is what we are lacking common? I don't follow other teams as closely as I do our team, so I will defer to others to take shots or issues with what I have listed as my problem areas.

But man...great one liner. You should have made that a topic in my opinion.

 

[CCBoy]

Holy crap...you mean a real dialogue with points and counterpoints? That would be interested all jokes aside. But you would need to have a scheme in place that's worth something. I could almost say okay on offense, but the defense is nothing special at all. In my opinion a scheme has to have a concept, but you also need good to better players to execute those schemes...we are lacking the following in my opinion:

• Young QB that's good enough for us not to draft another young QB
• Right Offensive Tackle
• Speed WR
• Another WR opposite of Dez
• Two (2) young and capable TEs (the jury is out on the last two drafted TEs)
• Two (2) DEs that can rush and play the run. None of what we have is worth a toot...and can't stay away from trouble off the field.
• One good 1 technique
• Depth for the 3 technique
• A healthy LB corp.
• A secondary that can intercept the ball

Now some of these may emerge this training camp and season. Trades could be made, free agents signed, etc. However, is what we are lacking common? I don't follow other teams as closely as I do our team, so I will defer to others to take shots or issues with what I have listed as my problem areas.

But man...great one liner. You should have made that a topic in my opinion.

There we go, finally what a talk site is all about...

I think that there actually is more going unseen, than is evident by directions of this team, all the way back to the lockout and the complete rebuild of the offense.

Let's start at your top listed item: quarterback

Ever stop to think why it is that Tony Romo developed?

No, he didn't come into the league with top position talent molded already. Bledsoe was a respected quarterback and Tony just didn't up and replace him at the top spot in the franchise.

Dallas tried to set up things so that their top pick this season, and the highest in decades, went for a quarterback. There was some high priced manipulations that moved in front of the Cowboys. That was just never a functional option as it played out. That can't be blamed upon the Cowboys...and talk about a huge gamble if the team had actually taken the bait and eaten the cheese for a Yellow Brick Road to Oz and the Wizard.

With needs, the team still attempted to move up for Lynch, but were outpriced by another team trying to do the very same thing.

The point here, is that things didn't go down with a highly picked quarterback, not for effort...but due to the extreme cost this past draft, for such a pick. Not stupid planners or Jerry Jones.

Now back to the Romo point...developing a quarterback over a large enough time, that he gains NFL levels of perspective, is very relevant. Both accuracy and view of play development are essential. In a study role, a player actually can overtake and become better than some of the high pedigree quarterbacks taken in a draft. Maybe this group of evaluators and coaches know this as well.

Myself, I don't think that merely having Jerry Jones as the GM, rots out the coaching abilities of this coaching staff...nor their knowledge of player developments. Yea, and that includes quarterback...(topice 1)

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

If you think about it, we are absolutely done if we lose Romo regardless. If we have Moore as a backup, we are guaranteed to be in the top 5 pick. You would hope Moore could do better, but it gives us better odds to build this team and find Romo's successor. Hey, i'm just being optimistic.

We are DONE in terms of making a postseason run. BUT.....BUT....this is professional football....and if Romo being hurt resorts to not getting first downs....scoring points....and winning a few games. This entire staff needs to be gutted and the Garrett/Romo/Witten era should end. The worlds richest sport franchise should deliver a PROFESSIONAL football performance regardless of who is the QB. And last year was not a PROFESSIONAL football performance.

 

[Cowboy06]

.......Now back to the Romo point...developing a quarterback over a large enough time, that he gains NFL levels of perspective, is very relevant. Both accuracy and view of play development are essential. In a study role, a player actually can overtake and become better than some of the high pedigree quarterbacks taken in a draft. Maybe this group of evaluators and coaches know this as well.

Myself, I don't think that merely having Jerry Jones as the GM, rots out the coaching abilities of this coaching staff...nor their knowledge of player developments. Yea, and that includes quarterback...(topice 1)

I agree for the most part. I would like to have a better overall talent base at QB. Romo aside, I don't like UDFAs. There is always a reason a QB goes undrafted. What I would love to know, as I am NOT a talent evaluator, is what are the core things you need to have a QB. What are people looking for? I'll take a stab in no particular order:

1. Height
2. Vision
3. Accuracy
4. Arm Strength
5. Touch
6. Mobility and decent speed when running.
7. Ability to throw on the run.
8. Touchdown to Int ratio. I would love to see10 to 1 or better (yeah I know, not easy)
9. Intelligence (e.g. knowing when to audible to a run)
10. Intangibles such as winning percentage, keeping a cool head, leadership and making all think they run the team..aka field surgeon/general.

 

[Bullflop]

Most teams are done if they lose their starting QB for any amount of time. We were foolish not to bring in competition for Moore, but I'm really interested to see how he handles this QB2 role. I think there's a decent chance he does a good job with it. I just don't want to be betting the season on it.

I'm crossing my fingers that Jamiel Showers really comes on surprisingly strong in camp and manages to wrest the job away from Moore. Now, I know, it seems like wishful thinking in a way but there has been speculation by some that he's a legit possibility to surprise one and all with some considerable progress throughout the offseason. I could picture Showers ostensibly taking the bull by the horns and proving himself, much to the delightful surprise of many. A pipe dream, maybe but maybe not -- stranger things have happened.

 

[Section446]

If Romo gets hurt again, you want to be as bad as possible.

Why? What if it's only a couple of games?

 

[noshame]

what if romo looks bad? just food for thought

 

[Macnalty]

So that is the sanity life preserver now?

Well, no big deal, everyone has a bad backup situation. That is just life in the NFL.

The difference is the circumstances.

What team has a 30 plus QB coming off multiple injuries with a backup QB situation as bad as ours?

Easy answer the super bowl champs are in worse shape than we are by far. Their risk at QB is far from a situation I would trade with at this point.

 

[Alexander]

Easy answer the super bowl champs are in worse shape than we are by far. Their risk at QB is far from a situation I would trade with at this point.

They have a QB for the future though. One who has talent.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Most teams are done if they lose their starting QB for any amount of time.

This is not fact. That is only true for Dallas last year. In the past 15 years there have been multiple backup QB'S lead their teams to superbowls and won. Just last year Pittsburgh won with Vick and Landry Jones. Indy won with Hasselbeck. The Texans won games with multiple bad QB'S. If you have a solid team on both sides of the ball you can survive without your starting QB. There was clearly a bigger problem other than Tony getting hurt. I'm hoping were more equipped to win without Tony this year. If it's all on him to make all the plays, we're screwed anyway.