The upside about not bringing in a better backup QB

LittleD

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That was a bad answer. They valued Lynch over Moore and the team made that obvious on draft day. No team is going to offer a #2 and a #3 especially with the defensive needs the Cowboys had to move back in the first round for a 3rd QB...GET REAL! The Cowboys were looking for a backup and a possible replacement for Romo down the road with Lynch which is why they offered so much.

If Moore was always the backup QB plan Stephen Jones would have never said backup QB would be a top priority entering the offseason and the team wouldn't have made a desperate attempt to go after Lynch in the draft. Your take couldn't be more wrong because the teams statements immediately entering the offseason and the actions they took on draft day to try and trade up for Paxton Lynch are proof that you're wrong.

That's okay. You think I'm wrong and I think you're wrong. That's what makes a horserace now isn't it. Jerry said yesterday that they love Moore and have no interest
in Foles. Unless Showers beats him out in TC, I think Mr. Moore is backing up Tony this year. Wanna BET? Oh! Broaddus thinks Showers was better than Moore or Prescott in the spring practices.
 

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That was a bad answer. They valued Lynch over Moore and the team made that obvious on draft day. No team is going to offer a #2 and a #3 especially with the defensive needs the Cowboys had to move back in the first round for a 3rd QB...GET REAL! The Cowboys were looking for a backup and a possible replacement for Romo down the road with Lynch which is why they offered so much.

If Moore was always the backup QB plan Stephen Jones would have never said backup QB would be a top priority entering the offseason and the team wouldn't have made a desperate attempt to go after Lynch in the draft. Your take couldn't be more wrong because the team's statements immediately entering the offseason and the actions they took on draft day to try and trade up for Paxton Lynch are proof that you're wrong.


My understanding from reading the Denver Post is that Lynch has miles to go before he is an option on Sunday during the season, just look at how Philly is manipulating the media about their QB and that he will not suit up this season unless unforeseen circumstances exist. We can only pray that we see many rookie QB's this fall as it is almost a for sure win. I think of Moore as a backup QB who will never be a starter but can drive the bus just fine until the cavalry arrives. I am frankly more worried about the defense and especially the rumours of trading L Collins for some stud DE.
 

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That's okay. You think I'm wrong and I think you're wrong. That's what makes a horserace now isn't it. Jerry said yesterday that they love Moore and have no interest
in Foles. Unless Showers beats him out in TC, I think Mr. Moore is backing up Tony this year. Wanna BET? Oh! Broaddus thinks Showers was better than Moore or Prescott in the spring practices.


What horserace??? This is like a horserace between Secretariat and Mr Ed. Lol You're saying the Cowboys offered a 2nd and 3rd round pick to try and move back into the first round for a QB to play behind Moore which is laughable! :laugh: Of course Jerry said they love Moore what is he suppose to say? Like I said a team doesn't offer a #2 and #3 to move back into the first round for a QB if they love the backup they have, especially not a team with all the defensive needs the Cowboys have. As for Moore backing up Romo this season that's pretty much a given with the rest of the QBs we have. In other words we're stuck!
 

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My understanding from reading the Denver Post is that Lynch has miles to go before he is an option on Sunday during the season, just look at how Philly is manipulating the media about their QB and that he will not suit up this season unless unforeseen circumstances exist. We can only pray that we see many rookie QB's this fall as it is almost a for sure win. I think of Moore as a backup QB who will never be a starter but can drive the bus just fine until the cavalry arrives. I am frankly more worried about the defense and especially the rumours of trading L Collins for some stud DE.


I'm sure Lynch has miles to go before he's starting material but obviously the Cowboys liked him a lot better than what they have at backup to make a desperate attempt to move back into the first round for him. Wasn't impressed by what I saw from Moore last season and the Cowboys weren't either or they wouldn't have attempted to go after Lynch. As for the D I'm sure most of us are worried about it, I'll be surprised if we have any resemblance of a pass rush this season.
 

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What horserace??? This is like a horserace between Secretariat and Mr Ed. Lol You're saying the Cowboys offered a 2nd and 3rd round pick to try and move back into the first round for a QB to play behind Moore which is laughable! :laugh: Of course Jerry said they love Moore what is he suppose to say? Like I said a team doesn't offer a #2 and #3 to move back into the first round for a QB if they love the backup they have, especially not a team with all the defensive needs the Cowboys have. As for Moore backing up Romo this season that's pretty much a given with the rest of the QBs we have. In other words we're stuck!

Every scout and draft service I visited said that Lynch had all the skills to be a starting QB one day but, he would take a couple of years to develop just like
Prescott. Lynch was the Cowboys opportunity to get a real shot at a franchise QB of the future. No one thought that Lynch had starting skills or the
experience to backup Romo this year or next year either. Very few college QB's coming to the NFL have the skills to operate an NFL team against today's
defenses. Most of the college offenses are just run and shoot and QB's just have to get the ball out to an open option receiver.
Just as most teams today in the NFL, if your franchise QB goes down for more than 5 games, your season is toast and you start planning for next
year's draft. Now laugh all you want... No one here cares.
 

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Every scout and draft service I visited said that Lynch had all the skills to be a starting QB one day but, he would take a couple of years to develop just like
Prescott. Lynch was the Cowboys opportunity to get a real shot at a franchise QB of the future. No one thought that Lynch had starting skills or the
experience to backup Romo this year or next year either. Very few college QB's coming to the NFL have the skills to operate an NFL team against today's
defenses. Most of the college offenses are just run and shoot and QB's just have to get the ball out to an open option receiver.
Just as most teams today in the NFL, if your franchise QB goes down for more than 5 games, your season is toast and you start planning for next
year's draft.

You're going to have a tough time getting anyone to believe that " no one" thought Lynch could outplay Moore for the backup job this season or next season. The Cowboys wouldn't have offered a #2 and #3 if they didn't think Lynch could at least be the backup this season. If he couldn't wrestle the backup job away from Moore who got it by default then he has no chance of being a franchise QB down the road. Moore is not that good, he lost the backup job in Detroit. He was only brought in because he worked with Linehan in Detroit and knows our offense.

Several teams lost their franchise QBs last season for several games and still made the playoffs. Brandon Weeden won a very important game for the Texans last season and saved another. Manning was lost for 7 games and the Broncos not only made the playoffs but won the SB. There's teams that can survive 5 games without their starting QB, unfortunately the Cowboys aren't one of them. We don't know how to adjust to a new QB and we don't have a defense that can step up.
 
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Does anyone really feel this offense is so formidable that a competent quarterback will make a difference if Romo were to fall?

While I am not the genuflecting type about Romo, he is so special, unless Brady wanted to try on the Star, or maybe Rodgers, I see nothing in this league that could supplant him.
 

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Tell what team has a great backup QB.

That's a great point, but most of them haven't had a chance to play and prove themselves either. Look at the Patriots, they drafted Garopolo in the 2nd round when they knew Brady wasnt going anywhere for a long time. He might be a very good qb, but just hasn't gotten time. Look at Cousins as another guy who was a good backup. There are a number of other examples, including the one from Cincinatti last year.

I personally think you gotta have a veteran guy as a backup who had played in real games, kind of like we did with Kitna and Orton. I know they werent great, but they were around .500 guys in the league, so you knew they could step in and win a few. You can groom a guy for the future but at some point.they have to get real reps. Hopefully Dak doesnt have to pay anytime soon, and maybe he can develop into a decent backup.
 

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That's a great point, but most of them haven't had a chance to play and prove themselves either. Look at the Patriots, they drafted Garopolo in the 2nd round when they knew Brady wasnt going anywhere for a long time. He might be a very good qb, but just hasn't gotten time. Look at Cousins as another guy who was a good backup. There are a number of other examples, including the one from Cincinatti last year.

I personally think you gotta have a veteran guy as a backup who had played in real games, kind of like we did with Kitna and Orton. I know they werent great, but they were around .500 guys in the league, so you knew they could step in and win a few. You can groom a guy for the future but at some point.they have to get real reps. Hopefully Dak doesnt have to pay anytime soon, and maybe he can develop into a decent backup.

That's fine, but if you play a backup against Brees, Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Ryan, Manning...you're going to lose.

Dallas had a gauntlet of quarterbacks to run through without Romo last year.
 

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I'm sure Lynch has miles to go before he's starting material but obviously the Cowboys liked him a lot better than what they have at backup to make a desperate attempt to move back into the first round for him. Wasn't impressed by what I saw from Moore last season and the Cowboys weren't either or they wouldn't have attempted to go after Lynch. As for the D I'm sure most of us are worried about it, I'll be surprised if we have any resemblance of a pass rush this season.
I think it was Russian roulette with those QB's in the first rd. I also agree about your Moore opinion, frankly, Jaylon Smith has a better chance than Lynch of making an impact in this league. Let's hope we have some pleasant surprises out in Cali.
 

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Does anyone really feel this offense is so formidable that a competent quarterback will make a difference if Romo were to fall?

While I am not the genuflecting type about Romo, he is so special, unless Brady wanted to try on the Star, or maybe Rodgers, I see nothing in this league that could supplant him.

We have an All Pro OL we have an All Pro WR, a Pro bowl TE, we have a top 4 pick RB.....so yes

Not upgrading QB2 after last year is a complete travesty
 
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