There is zero hope of any change for 5-6 years minimum

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I feel sad for people who see the absolute worse in everything. I feel sad for people with zero hope . And you can say what you want, I know 100% and without a shadow of a doubt that most things in your life are probably negative or surrounded by negativity, and that makes me sad. If I had NO hope for 5-6 years, there’s not a chance that I’d stick around to live in the despair. Why do you do that to yourself?
So start the counter debate about what can (reasonably) happen to elevate the despair. With everything in place: Jerry, Dak's contract/health concern, CAP situation (especially with Micah at $40M and our LG being paid like a LT) and Defense (especially without Micah, who's costing $40M per)......are we hoping that we find a HC that can get the best out of Dak and his diminishing mobility and a Defense that be overhauled to stop the run.
 

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I think it’s time for some of you to either find a new team or stop watching football all together. The Cowboys fortune can turn with one great offseason. Relax. Nothing went right this season. Next season will be better.

I'm as negative as the next guy, but you got a be a real cry baby to lock in on doom and gloom for 6 years. Lol, our fanbase is so weak.
 

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Especially, if they end up in the 1 or 2 position and a team like the Raiders want to trade up for a qb.
Or if they end up in the 1 or 2 position and just take that QB themselves...
 

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They need a new offensive scheme and a new HC.

Tons of injuries have hurt the defense too.

Missing WR2, RB1

Lance needs to develop. Dak won’t be around forever.

It will turnaround quick with the right HC.
 

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I think it’s time for some of you to either find a new team or stop watching football all together. The Cowboys fortune can turn with one great offseason. Relax. Nothing went right this season. Next season will be better.
This isn’t just a one season thing. I don’t know how any fan can sit here and say the last 3 decades have been fun. Eventually enough is enough.
 

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For the record I only 95% agree lol.

Yeah I have next to no doubt they screw up the upcoming coaching hire, and even if it’s apparent after a year or two that person wasn’t the right one, they will be here for the duration of their four or five year deal. We know dead coaching money is a huge problem in the league.

They need the humiliation and to back off. That’s going to take time. They can say, do and think whatever they like, but they aren’t good at this. Those fake/hollow 12 win seasons didn’t help the long term hope.
This is the NFL things turn around in one or two seasons constantly
 

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This is the NFL things turn around in one or two seasons constantly
Maybe they do if you didn’t sink over half your cap into a washed up QB who is now locked in thru 2028, a WR who plays more like a #2, and a nut case who’s position is still largely undefined, and goes missing in playoff games.
 

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Maybe they do if you didn’t sink over half your cap into a washed up QB, a WR who plays more like a #2, and a nut case who’s position is still largely undefined, and goes missing in playoff games.
The cap money has nothing to do with what the rest of the team is built like. But that’s the problem. He puts it down the road. Prescott’s contract is not going to hurt us. They keep raising the capital level.
 

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Maybe they do if you didn’t sink over half your cap into a washed up QB, a WR who plays more like a #2, and a nut case who’s position is still largely undefined, and goes missing in playoff games.
I rant also
 

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Yeah,
Short of doing a coach Payton type move by eating all the Wilson money and draft capital in Denver OR pulling an Atlanta and drafting a first rounder after just paying the starter, we aint going nowhere.
And I put the odds of those 2 things happening by this FO at slim and none.

I have seen mentioned here that there is some type of contract escape that allows for a not so catastrophic dead money/cap hit if he were to be cut in either June 2026 or 27.

Have not looked further into that scenario.
IF that were an actual option to this clueless FO then that's probably the only remaining lifeline to avoid your timeline.

The next few years are gonna suck.

Its become all about the entertainment here now.
Go Cowboys!
 

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No change at Head Coach....no change in Free Agency philosophy....not even a change at GM.....none of these things can reverse the dye that was cast on the morning of September 8th when Booger sealed our fate by making his SINGLE WORST ACTION as owner and GM!!!!!! I feel sad for those who think a change at Head Coach, or any other thing I failed to reference will result in any short term turnaround. Even if ALL THREE of the things I did reference above happened, WE AIN'T SNIFFING A SUPER BOWL WITH DAK!!!! And the sad and PATHETIC thing about it, is Booger already 100% knows that it was a mistake....somehow, some idiot or idiots convinced him that he would curry favor by doing what he did when he did it...he 100% did not read the correct room prior....I do not know ONE PERSON who thought it was the right decision. Anyway....since September 8th, my viewing habits have changed drastically....prior to that date, I'd missed watching only one game since 1988, and that was in 1994 when I was in Cabo and our hotel could not pull in a nationally televised game. The Cowboys are dead to me. I love this site, but now visit sparingly....a few of you applaud this fact, which I can live with. I've been a die hard fan since 1975, and you can tell me all you want that a die hard fan doesn't throw in the towel and quit. But I didn't betray ANYONE.....Booger betrayed me and the other tens of millions like me. Go Dodgers....Go Mavericks....Go Stars....Go Sun Devils!!! There are other alternatives to the S show that is the Dallas Cowboys for going on THREE DECADES!!!
I'd like to add GO TEXANS! DUMPING the Cowboys has made me happy. I love visiting this site and rubbing noses in the cesspool of Dak supporters. It took me years to let go but the signing of Dak pushed me over the edge. That was a terrible terrible decision to sign Dak. Jerry has a real mess on his hands because that locker room is divided and half the team hates Dak. He's stealing money!
 

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I'd say no. They get "lucky" in the draft for these burst of winning seasons but then their inactions lead to 1 and done in the playoffs and all the distractions they allow.

Until the cancer(s) up top goes away, there is no real hope for change.
Jerry is tripling down on stubbornness.
Stephen seems to have the same ego too.
Both are blameless in their eyes.
 

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I think it’s time for some of you to either find a new team or stop watching football all together. The Cowboys fortune can turn with one great offseason. Relax. Nothing went right this season. Next season will be better.
I agree with " relax" but it ends there.

There is zero evidence to say that "next season will be better"

That's just wishful thinking but the reality is that the Owner will just continue with his way of doing things.

The days of the NFC bring an easy conference is over and those 12 win seasons were fools gold.

We have to see evidence of concrete change before making proclamations of improvement
 

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I'd like to add GO TEXANS! DUMPING the Cowboys has made me happy. I love visiting this site and rubbing noses in the cesspool of Dak supporters. It took me years to let go but the signing of Dak pushed me over the edge. That was a terrible terrible decision to sign Dak. Jerry has a real mess on his hands because that locker room is divided and half the team hates Dak. He's stealing money!
I can't judge anybody for switching to another team at this point because it's actually insane to think things will change here as long as the cancer at the top remains.

I'll just remain insane here although it flies in the face of common sense
 

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Maybe they do if you didn’t sink over half your cap into a washed up QB who is now locked in thru 2028, a WR who plays more like a #2, and a nut case who’s position is still largely undefined, and goes missing in playoff games.
They can cut Dak in March 2026 and escape the contract.

Things will turn around quick with the right HC and OC.
 

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I am trying to be realistic instead of overreactive about the Cowboys. As I posted in other threads there is a path for the Cowboys to return to winning ways in 2 years but more likely it will take longer. The problem they have right now is the CAP, of course. Too much money is committed to a QB who appears to be declining rather than improving. I am not saying Dak is a bad QB. He is better than Rush or Lance. He is just not worth anywhere near $60 million per year or $90 million against the CAP in 2025. Let's hope Jerry does not restructure these deals to push the problem down the road because then it will take 6 or 7 years to get out of this mess.

On the other hand, regardless of the CAP rom they have, they are unwilling to spend it on top tier free agents who can actually help the team. They are relying on the draft and trade. But they treat mid round draft picks like they are worthless which hampers their ability to fill positions with the draft. A great example is trading a 4th for Lance. That 4th we now know could have gotten us a decent RB which they desperately need. Or this year the trade for Mingo.

So if they are building only from the draft then a losing season will go a long way towards restoring them a to a winning team. Drafting in the late 20s add a lot of risk to raft picks. Look at the Cowboys drafts when they we selecting in the top 10

1998 - Greg Ellis(8), Flozell Adams(38)
2002 - Roy Williams(8), Andre Gurode(37)
2003 - Terence Newman(5),
2005 - Demarcus Ware (11) - Not top 10 but still an early pick
2011 - Tyron Smith(9)
2016 - Ezekial Elliott(4)
2021 - Micah Parsons (12) - traded down from 10

They also got Zack Martin at 16 and Demarcus Lawrence at 34 in 2014.

The point is the odds of getting really good players increases dramatically the higher the draft picks and Dallas should have an opportunity to do that this year. What we have to hope is they do not use the 2nd round to experiment with a high risk, high reward player as they have done in the past.

But If I am right about Dallas, they should have a top 10 pick in 2025 and probably a top 20 pick in 2026. In 2 years they can find enough talent to make them good in 2027. The one caveat is the QB. I think they need to ditch Dak after 2025 and dump his bloated contract. Then they need to draft a QB to take his place. That is the gamble that could take years to fix.
 

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So start the counter debate about what can (reasonably) happen to elevate the despair. With everything in place: Jerry, Dak's contract/health concern, CAP situation (especially with Micah at $40M and our LG being paid like a LT) and Defense (especially without Micah, who's costing $40M per)......are we hoping that we find a HC that can get the best out of Dak and his diminishing mobility and a Defense that be overhauled to stop the run.
well on the optimistic (homer) side, our very talented line can put it together and not play like one of the worst units in the league. be it through the natural progression of a raw prospect like guyton, or sensible / optimal lineup configuration it’s hard not to believe they can / will be markedly better.

while all teams deal with injuries, law of avgs suggests we won’t be decimated to the levels we have been this year. strictly focusing on the dl we lost our top four in succession. i’d say over the past few years, the team has actually done a fairly remarkable job of next man up (imo) when injuries strike, but when they hit the entirety of a position group, that’s a tall order and fingers crossed it doesn’t happen again next year.

this team has historically loved top shelf running backs as part of their identity. and while i’m not wanting to spend the capital for a jeanty, i am hoping / assuming they prioritize injecting some talent, and believe that will pay considerable dividends.

lastly HIGH DRAFT POSITIONING. we rarely have it. for a team that relies on the draft, drafting in the 20s and high 20s year to year is a severe handicap. every team that we envy and say “_____ has rebuilt and passed us”, in almost every example it’s due to having high draft picks and hitting on them. with the exception of zeke, who was a MONSTER for a few years, our top 15 player selections are A+++ over the past 15 years or so when we have them. Tyron, Zack, Micah, Zeke. Each had an immediate and identity providing impact. Throw a guy like Mason Graham or a Travis Hunter in the mix and I can see a massive rippling effect. Not to mention the way to combat outsized cap spending is to replenish with young cheap talent through the draft, and picking highly each round is the absolute best opportunity to do that.

so yeah, call the past couple of years fools gold, or favorable schedule, or whatever you like, it’s difficult to win 12 games, let alone three years in a row, so i’m banking on being a talented roster that had a lost season compounded by a myriad of factors, bouncing back with some highly drafted juice injected, a favorable schedule (lol) and a reversal of fortunes.
 

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We need more fans that have been die hard followers most of their lives to exit stage left. I was completely immersed in two sports teams for most of my life: UNC basketball and the Dallas Cowboys. I’m a Canes fan in hockey and Braves fan in baseball, but neither of those teams can come close to generating the passion I have for UNC basketball and, at one time, the Dallas Cowboys. The only other team that approached UNC and Dallas for me was the Bulls in the 80’s and 90’s, but that was completely because of Michael and his ties to UNC. When he retired I once again did not have a favorite team in the NBA and still don’t.

Jerry has ruined the entire ecosystem necessary to succeed when it comes to winning Super Bowls. OP is laying a lot of his personal apathy on Dak and that’s fine too. I don’t care what leads a fan to apathy as long as it happens. Not enough people caring is the only thing that legitimately has any shot of leading to the needed changes in this franchise we all love dearly. Jerry has no respect for the fan base or their wants, needs, and desires. Little to nothing can usurp the narcissism, hubris, and gaslighting that comes out of that windbag’s mouth on a daily basis other than his play toy losing value or seeing a half-filled stadium, most of which are opposing fans. Maybe, just maybe, he will get a dose of reality and realize he’s the problem if that happens.
 
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