These are your plays and those are your players

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  1. CouchCoach

    CouchCoach Well-Known Member

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    Anyone besides me notice the difference in Linehan's play calling in DET and DAL? How about with Romo and without?

    There are two ways to approach play calling. Have your play book and get the players to fit it as Landry did with the Flex, Walsh with the WCO and Belichick seems to do with every player, every season. Or you adapt your play calling to the talent available, which is what most have to do and young Kellen Moore is certainly no exception.

    I've read that he's got this play book he's put together over the last few years but I would assume that was in the perfect world as most of them are designed, perfect execution is expected.

    There seems to be a lot of apprehension with our first time 29 year old OC but he is not an outsider. He was there as a player and a QBC so he is not unfamiliar with the talent, especially QB1. Besides this rep as the Stephen Hawking of football that so many seem to want to sell, there is something else that makes me take a step back from rushing to judgement about him. That QB1 wanted him and I have to assume there have been discussions on how he would call it differently and if you read between the lines, Prescott does not like being told he can't play instinctively and that means using his legs when it's time.

    So, my lean is in Moore's direction even though there will be a learning curve and he does have an advantage that Linehan didn't have, Cooper to start the season and a rapidly improving Gallup. But I think above all, he understands what a dual threat QB is like as I believe that has been the most underutilized element of this offense. Unless he's ordered not to use Prescott as a runner.

    Now, here's the other side of that coin regarding Prescott wanting Moore. I believe Linehan had some apprehension about Prescott executing certain plays under certain circumstances and called his plays that way. I also believe Prescott is very confident, maybe a little overconfident in his desire to prove he's a Tier 1 QB. Moore's greatest challenge will get his QB to play within himself because when it comes to the QB, the #1 job of the OC is to manage his limitations while exploiting his talent.
     
  2. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    My hunch is there is an order not to over use Daks legs to preserve him long term.

    I’m really not sure why we didn’t pursue a more experienced OC? Unless our play calling has become so limited with Dak most OC wouldn’t be interested? I’m thinking Jason is basically going to take it over using Moore.

    It became very obvious how limited our play calling was in Redzone. I’m not sure how much impact this move will make? Statistically our Redzone went to crap without Dez and Witten relying mostly on ground game. The shorter field simply doesn’t play into Daks weaknesses. Our most effective play was using his legs which isn’t a recipe for success in NFL long term.
     
  3. CouchCoach

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    We don't know what Moore's deal is but I would assume he doesn't have a vet OC's contract in money or term and the thinking around there might be short term.

    If they are limiting the use of his legs under this present contract, what are they going to do with a fatter one? Think BAL might put a governor on Lamar Jackson? Because he's no more a pocket guy than Prescott is. Just my opinion but Dak Prescott is not and never will be the prototypical pocket QB like Aikman. He needs to be allowed to use all of his skill.
     
  4. blumayne38

    blumayne38 Well-Known Member

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    Dak also isn’t a GREAT runner of the football sure he can hit a giant hole and take on smaller CBs and LBs. but he doesn’t have the speed to bend the corner or outrun a QB spy. He isn’t that fast to begin with so him being a “runner” isn’t as true as some like to make it out to be.
     
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  5. JW82

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    And somewhere out there Stephen Hawking is loving being used in a sports thread!
     
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  6. AmariChill

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    :facepalm: I expected no less from you.
     
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  7. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Yep..Moore is set up to be another scapegoat.

    My greatest hope is all of this might mean we aren’t completely sold or All In on Dak?
     
  8. pancakeman

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    This is what I'm curious to see play out: Prescott has been a cautious quarterback in his career to date—limiting interceptions and erring on the side of waiting too long to throw. Is that a consequence of direction from above, or is that in his makeup? And if the former, will the coaching changes made this off-season change that? And, if it changes will that be for the better for the team or not? To me, all three layers of these questions are up in the air, but will be answered in 2019.
     
  9. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    I believe it’s a planned protection or caution of Daks weaknesses.
     
  10. blumayne38

    blumayne38 Well-Known Member

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    Truth?
     
  11. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    He’s not fast but he’s smart and runs with power
    I don’t want his running 12-15 times a game
    But I’d like him to run more when things break down and a handful of designed runs
     
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  12. blumayne38

    blumayne38 Well-Known Member

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    We know what happens...
     
  13. blumayne38

    blumayne38 Well-Known Member

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    It’s just so optimistic to say “when things break down” I want him to do this....who even says he can? Not I...I want him to get rid of the football BEFORE things break down. And that requires a huge amount of growth, in understanding the defense he is looking at. And going through his progressions in a timely and orderly fashion
     
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  14. Dre11

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    He's right Dak is mainly a straight line runner, he not he's not likenWatson or Jackson who can change direction to avoid hits .
     
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  15. Dre11

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    This is what he does now, he's said that's when he likes to run, but teams also have a feel on how to keep players in the pocket. He also said it wasn't them who didn't want him to run, that it was him being selective on when to run.
     
  16. PhillyCowboysFan

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    That is interesting. Where did you read that?
     
  17. CouchCoach

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    He is Alex Smith and as a runner as well. For a QB, Smith is the most ball protective one I've seen. I can see that being a benefit for a HC or OC to a point. There was nothing wrong with him in KC, Reid just saw something more right with Mahomes. He has no fear and selective amnesia.

    The difference between a Tier 1 QB and the rest is risk. They can make those risky throws because they have the skills and offense to dig themselves out. I've watched Rivers for years bury himself until the 4Q and then dig himself out.
     
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  18. CouchCoach

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    From others making comments about him. Yosemite mentioned it, for one.

    I see him like Mox in Varsity Blues, can't wait for that play to Billy Bob.
     
  19. CouchCoach

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    Don't you think they've worked on him getting the ball out quicker in practice? If he's going to be a bang bang QB like the other quick release QB's, he's going to have to be more consistently accurate. Those quick releases are a lot about instinct in QB's. Those that need to think too much, process too much are not as adept at it.
     
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  20. Roadtrip635

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    The difference is Linehan had Megatron in Detroit, it's a lot easier to tell your QB just throw it high in his general vicinity. With Romo, he had a prime Dez that had the same ability, just on a little lesser scale, go win jump balls with their athletic ability. Amari is skilled, but that jump ball mentality isn't his strength. Linehan through his career seems like he preferred calling pass plays for outside the hashes and little in the middle, digs, crosses, drags, etc. Even on deep routes Linehan usually called straight 9 routes or a double move down the sideline, rarely did he call for deep posts, crosses or corner routes
     

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