These cheating refs are out of control. I’m sick of it!

[Runwildboys]

I could be wrong but I thought it was made illegal because of Roy Williams. At lease thats how I remember it but I was a kid at the time.

It was nicknamed The Roy Williams Rule.

 

[Cydios]

 

[Miller]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/11/27/n...kKPKPZo88Nrk3w4HFjXtu1wP1ipJ14f0mcn5eET0uJf3E

So Eagles, 49ers etc get all the calls

Chargers and Cowboys have the Scarlet Letter

Carry on with the conspiracies. I’ll try to Red Zone to figure out this deep state

 

[NeathBlue]

I agree that going to a fully automated/reviewed system would be a disaster but I think that the league should implement a system where a coach can make one penalty challenge a game.

Yeah I think a coach’s challenge would be good

 

[glimmerman]

Yeah. It was 7 games or something like that. Dallas also had the highest pressure percentage so it made no sense.

This was also when Jerry was suing Goodell for the record.

Cant be anything there right? lol

That’s what I was thinking. Tried to get him fired. It backfired when he did not get enough votes. An we wonder about the refs. Hhmmm

 

[StarOfGlory]

Seemed like a well called game to me. Not sure what you’re talking about.

In fact, I’m amazed at how good the refs are year in and year out. The game is so fast, have you ever been on the sideline for a pro game? I have, It’s shockingly fast. I have no idea how they get things right as much as they do.

Hell, go watch a NBA game if you want to see some truly horrid officiating. You are correct about the speed of the game.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[Cowboys1966]

To you doesn't matter. By the rule, he spun him using both the front and back of this jersey. That should have been a horse collar. And to then huddle up and then come up with intentional grounding, which apparently wasn't IG as there was a receiver in the area, was just the cherry on top of that sequence of events by that officiating crew.

It’s not just to me… Since I posted this comment on the horse tackle, I’ve read more than one person say it in the media. I always thought the horse tackle was grabbing the back of the caller, and yanking down with your body weight… this play was not that… but I’m not a rules expert..
Yeah, that was a terrible sequence for the refs.… I’m reading the intentional grounding penalty now… And it is very vague… It says “vicinity” of a receiver… What the F does that mean? I would say in this case, the receiver was about 5 yards away from where the ball hit the ground. is 5 yards in the vicinity? Especially when the receiver was about 8 yards away from the quarterback? By the spirit of the rule, it was intentional grounding… But again I’m not a ref.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Although I don't buy into the conspiracy stuff, I do believe that the refs either watch some teams closer or just arbitrarily notice our penalties more than the other good teams we face. There are a few games this year where I thought we came out better than the other team as far as benefiting from the calls. But it seems like other contenders like Philly and San Fran almost always come out on the better end of it. I know some of our fans believe we should just be able to overcome that, but when you have two teams close in talent playing, any advantage can be big. I go back to the spot Hurts was given on Philly's opening drive, which led to them going for it on fourth down instead of punting. Maybe they go for it anyway, but 2 yards to go in their territory more likely changes that decision. They don't score there, who knows how it would have turned out?

You don't believe in the conspiracy, but then you state that you do believe that refs watch us more closely than other teams.

Guess what? That's a conspiracy.

 

[gimmesix]

You don't believe in the conspiracy, but then you state that you do believe that refs watch us more closely than other teams.

Guess what? That's a conspiracy.

Your definition differs than mine. I don't believe that they are purposefully trying to affect the outcome of the game, have something against our team or are following some kind of league mandate. I do not believe there is a secret plot against our team because the officiating is bad for a lot of teams and even sometimes favors us (it just doesn't seem to in big games).

The dictionary definition of conspiracy is a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful: or the action of plotting or conspiring.

 

[Dallasfann]

In complete other news..NBA owner Mark Cuban sells majority share of team to a casino owner. Lol...don't worry though...only the conspiracy theorists will find the humor in this..everyone else can stay in lala land.

 

[Hadenough]

Season in and season out these refs keep helping the dirty birds, chiefs and used to help the patriots. Buffalo should have won that game!!!!! They were robbed! I am sick and tired of watching the same stupid biased cheating ref calls and non calls over and over and over and over and over. These refs are out of control! It doesn’t matter if we go 10-7, 12-5 or 17-0! We will walk into the playoffs and the refs will hit us with an uppercut!! Oh I hate it!!!

I agree! These refs miss some serious calls in tight games. Personally I think the ref should step back and let the teams play more and only call the more obvious calls.

 

[gimmesix]

I could be wrong but I thought it was made illegal because of Roy Williams. At lease thats how I remember it but I was a kid at the time.

It was Roy Williams' tackle of Terrell Owens while he was with the Eagles. I felt the horse collar rule was a (over)reaction to the fact that Williams had the ability/strength to jerk down receivers from behind with one hand. Most DBs seemed to grab the collar but then have to wrap up the receiver to get him down. Williams would just jerk them to the ground.

 

[DripTooHard]

It was Roy Williams' tackle of Terrell Owens while he was with the Eagles. I felt the horse collar rule was a (over)reaction to the fact that Williams had the ability/strength to jerk down receivers from behind with one hand. Most DBs seemed to grab the collar but then have to wrap up the receiver to get him down. Williams would just jerk them to the ground.

Williams was never the same after that rule was created. That and he started collecting poodles and hanging out with poor man’s Beyoncé.

 

[gimmesix]

Williams was never the same after that rule was created. That and he started collecting poodles and hanging out with poor man’s Beyoncé.

Yeah, it was sad.

 

[DandyDon52]

It was entirely intentional. Any dispassionate person on a jury presented with such evidence would have convicted the Eagles of a "horse-collar" or roughing penalty.

Yet, the play gets turned on its head, with the Bills penalized with a damning grounding/loss-of-down penalty.

Combined with the remainder of appalling officiating in the first half, it was perhaps the most egregious miscarriage of justice I've seen in fifty years of watching the NFL.

That play should have been called, but do you ever wonder why some plays cant be reviewed ? why in last 2 min only booth reviews?
Some plays cant be challenged?
That is all done so the NY office can decide what to do, and control it, and the decision .
Nothing about being fair or right to it.
The nfl controls so many aspects of the game they can fix them without most even knowing.
The refs being biased, and picking on teams is laughable, they do as they are instructed to do and it is all about gambling.

in recent years it is just obvious and there is way more of it, and this year is the worst.
It will continue because no one challenges the nfl about it, so NFL is doing it more and dont really care to hide it.
they know for most fans will blow it off and blame the refs favoring one team or another lol. It is a great scam, that you can run for a long time when
when the fans and gamblers are as dumb as they are.

And I dont exclude myself from the fan group, I have been watching the past 25 years, but over time this stuff is hard to ignore.
They also use it to introduce parity more closely, who is the best team now in afc north? nfc north?

 

[cowboyed]

Yes. They said NFL officials don’t cheat so I knew they could not possibly have an “opinion of the Dallas Cowboys”.

I just think the refs are fallible with some of them better or worse than others. They should be held accountable for glaring flag throwing mistakes or obsessively controlling the players on the field. The NFL should professionally upgrade refs with better training and year round compensate them accordingly.

 

[DogFace]

Refs are human. They make mistakes. They don’t favor teams and are equal opportunity screw ups.

We only notice the calls we think go against Dallas.

But every fan base thinks THEIR team is the one the conspiracy is targeting.

Kinda like how Jack Buck says EVERY fan says he clearly hates their team.

Fake huddle calls, for example, are pretty unique and no, other fans can’t and don’t say that because it hasn’t happened to them and they’ve never heard of it.

There’s several other very rare or unique to us calls that make some think there might be a bias of some kind.

5 of the 25 games with zero penalties were against us.