Things to remember about BP and the draft

[VACowboy]

The fact is, Parham had a much better season in 2005 (without Brooks) then he did in 2004 (with Brooks in the lineup beside him). The numbers speak for themselves. I don't think one necessarily has to do with the other, although it makes sense to me that if Brooks isn't on the field Parham is gonna blitz more and there are gonna be more tackles for Parham to make.

 

[Dough Boy]

The fact is, Parham had a much better season in 2005 (without Brooks) then he did in 2004 (with Brooks in the lineup beside him). The numbers speak for themselves. I don't think one necessarily has to do with the other, although it makes sense to me that if Brooks isn't on the field Parham is gonna blitz more and there are gonna be more tackles for Parham to make.

I think I've already agreed to your first point. I stood corrected. Statiscally, Parham had a better 05. You are right. I was wrong.

Now that I've acquiesced to your point, lets look at the 2nd part. My whole intention on joining this thread was to say that Brooks is a better player. By that contention, I stick to. I'm only sorry that I clouded the issue. My entire reasoning for joining this thread was to say, while Parham is a very good player, Brooks is a rare type of football player.

I so hate that I confused the issue. Parham did put up better numbers in 05 without Brooks in the lineup a majority of the time.

Just for the record, I was wrong. Parham had a better numbers in 2005.

 

[Dough Boy]

But again you are right, my quote is not entirely accuarate, Parham did step his game up. No question about that.
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Just for the record. So we don't have to discuss this point any further. I was wrong. I stand corrected. I erred. I didn't not do my research. Parham stepped up his game in 2005 and better numbers without Brooks in the lineup.



Here is the conversation that I should have stuck to defending. Brooks is a better player than Parham. I'm sticking to this one. I've seen them both play. Parham is good, Brooks is a rarely seen talent when healthy.

 

[Dough Boy]

It's kinda embarrassing that someone who is such an expert on UVA football could be so dead wrong.

Sorry to have embarrassed you. It’s a good thing I came to this board with some intestinal fortitude, because I've hardly embarrassed myself. But again, sorry to have let you down - you are one of the ppl that I was considering inviting into my 'circle of influence'. I guess its no way you would have me now. Bummer, I think you could have made a dramatic difference in my life. I guess I'll move on with the next person on my list. Paging Mr. Buller, Buller – has anyone seen Ferris Buller......

 

[Rush 2112]

I could have sworn someone said Parham wasn't coming out earlier.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2285718

 

[Dough Boy]

I could have sworn someone said Parham wasn't coming out earlier.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2285718

The site that I read, said he wasn't coming out.

http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showprospect.php?key=Kai Parham*

Glad that he is coming out.

 

[VACowboy]

I'm not glad. I wish both Parham and Brooks would come back to school. If Parham improved as much in '06 as he did in '05, he might well find himself being selected in the first half of the first round.

I won't claim to be an expert on VA football, but I see all their home games in person, see the away games that are televised and listen to the rest on the radio. And I can say that when Brooks was healthy and the VA defense was on the field, all you ever heard was "Tackle by Brooks." "Tackle by Brooks." "Tackle by Brooks."

No one knows anything about his back or whatever happened between he and the coaching staff because Groh employs Parcells' one voice policy and never releases any info about players. So it all may be a non-issue. His knee was. News outlets reported anything from a broken leg to multiple torn ligaments. As it turned out he'd had a cyst removed from behind his knee. There was no injury and he made a 100% recovery. The first game he returned to full-time play, however, he sprained an ankle. Then word was he had back problems, and something surfaced about a disagreement with the coaches.

Parcells will undoubtedly get the whole truth from Groh. I think that if Brooks ends up in Dallas we can all assume things surrounding Ahmad were speculated and blown out of proportion.

 

[kartr]

I'm not sure he would go FS with the first pick in the draft though.

This is my plan:

1st: Brod. Bunkley - pass rushing dt from Florida State
2nd: Omar Jacobs qb 3rd: Todd Watkins wr byu 4.42 sp
4th: Kelly Jennings cb Miami
5th: Mark Levoir rt Notre Dame
6th: Jonathon Orr wr Wisconsin - 4.34 sp
7th: DJ Shockley - backup qb

 

[Dough Boy]

I'm not glad. I wish both Parham and Brooks would come back to school. If Parham improved as much in '06 as he did in '05, he might well find himself being selected in the first half of the first round.

I won't claim to be an expert on VA football, but I see all their home games in person, see the away games that are televised and listen to the rest on the radio. And I can say that when Brooks was healthy and the VA defense was on the field, all you ever heard was "Tackle by Brooks." "Tackle by Brooks." "Tackle by Brooks."

No one knows anything about his back or whatever happened between he and the coaching staff because Groh employs Parcells' one voice policy and never releases any info about players. So it all may be a non-issue. His knee was. News outlets reported anything from a broken leg to multiple torn ligaments. As it turned out he'd had a cyst removed from behind his knee. There was no injury and he made a 100% recovery. The first game he returned to full-time play, however, he sprained an ankle. Then word was he had back problems, and something surfaced about a disagreement with the coaches.

Parcells will undoubtedly get the whole truth from Groh. I think that if Brooks ends up in Dallas we can all assume things surrounding Ahmad were speculated and blown out of proportion.

VA, My I'm glad was more tounge and check. I'm also gald for the Cowboys, that one more quality LB is coming out. I think he would be a good ILB in the 3/4 scheme.

Brooks is a rare, rare breed. I think if Groh gives BP the green light, this guy can play anywhere on the field. He can play MLB, SLB or WLB in the 4-3. He can play either ILB or OLB spot. I think he is talented enough to play DE in a pinch or special package in the 4-3.

I also think he can guard a Jermey Shockey type TE one on one, very aking to what Julian Peterson for the 9ers did a few years ago in that playoff game. I actually watched a news highlight that showed him returning a kick-off. I'm not saying we should draft him, but if Groh gives BP a thumbs up, I would not hesitate taking him at 18.

 

[Rush 2112]

Man, this Ahmad Brooks saga just won't stop.

Weed, knee, back, blows up to 280, mysteriously misses practice, run-ins with Groh, finally "supposedly" kicked off team.

I seriously thought Kwakou Robinson was the biggest knucklehead on that team.

Having said all that I'd use a 6th in the supplemental draft on him.

Seriously, that's it. No higher.

I apologize to Channing Crowder for the comparison.

 

[kiheikiwi]

So does anyone have a clue as to why he was booted? (Brooks) Its all over these threads the last few months that I'm on the Parham bandwagon, but would like to know what went on with Brooks. Remember last year when He went back to school we were saying "wait till next year". Then he went back again this year,and now he's supposedly been booted off the team - is that a huge fall from grace or what?