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Things we should be learning from Pats

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by kskboys, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. kskboys

    kskboys Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we try to copy them, but we try to copy their 2 TE sets and obsession w/ CB's. Here's some of the things that really make them successful.

    1. Continuously draft OL and DL.
    2. Make sure to have replacements in place for players who will want a huge salary.
    3. Do the opposite of what most of the NFL is doing. This allows you to find useful players all over the draft. Belly's 3-4 wasn't everywhere, so he was getting players who fit his system all over the draft. When the NFL switched to the 3-4, Belly went back to the 4-3, so he's still finding useful players all over the draft. He was doing that 2 TE set, so when everyone started switching, he's now going for WR's and is using a pass catching RB profusely.
    4. Even if they don't play more than half the time, make sure to have a huge dude for the middle, to put a stop to O's like the Rams. Stop that run up the middle, and it's going to be a bit more difficult.
    5. Always have a good stout OL in place. Always.
    6. Don't overpay players. It kills you pretty quick.

    Anything I missed? I know, I know, it helps tremendously to have a top 5 all time HC and QB, I get that. And that's a huge part of why they win. However, there are other things that can be done.
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  2. CowboysRule

    CowboysRule Well-Known Member

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    7. Have one of the greatest QB's of all time playing on a relatively low salary so you can still sign other talent to fill out your roster.
    8. CHEAT.
  3. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Only one thing to learn: The owner knows his limitations.
  4. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    "Anything I missed?"

    Only a few minor details:

    Have a competent GM not a glorified circus conductor
    Have a real HC not a spineless jellyfish
    Have discipline and accountability
    Have a QB who can throw the ball effectively

    You know, minor details like those
  5. cowboyblue22

    cowboyblue22 Well-Known Member

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    to learn from the pats you have to have big bill he and brady are the difference a great head coach is able to take a franchise a long way see jimmy Johnson and tom landry it takes talent but it takes a great coach and that is why the cowboys will never win a championship with garrett as the head coach
  6. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    7. A real HC.
    8. No Jerry Jones.
  7. Direwolf63

    Direwolf63 RXP

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    Don't have a set philosophy on either offense or defense. Be adaptable to exploit weaknesses of you opposition that week.

    You may throw the ball 50 times one week and run the ball 45 times the next week.

    You may run a base 4-3 one week and a 5-2 the next week (like the Pats did against the Rams). Or go straight nickel all game. Exploit the weaknesses of the opposing offense.

    This idea of pounding Zeke 25 times a game no matter your opponent won't work. Create new schemes every single week to exploit oppositions weaknesses and keep them off balance.

    This stuff is over Jason Garrett's head.

    PAPPYDOG "It was a catchable pass" Zone Supporter

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    Ya real minor details I mean when you have Jerry,Jason,and Dak its Superbowl time baby!!!!:facepalm:
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  9. Vinnie2u

    Vinnie2u Well-Known Member

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    This man speaks the truth.
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  10. CowboysRule

    CowboysRule Well-Known Member

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    Bill Belichick has accomplished nothing without Tom Brady.
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  11. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    We should learn absolutely positively nothing from the Pats. There have been plenty of teams try and learn from them and have failed. All of the ex-assistants that get head coaching jobs implement the Patriots way and it fails.
  12. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Dak Prescott throws the football better than Tom Brady did that first championship run. But aye........let's pretend like he was always the best quarterback in the league lol.
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  13. Whyjerry

    Whyjerry Well-Known Member

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    Coaching matters.

    Good coaching really matters.
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  14. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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  15. cern

    cern Well-Known Member

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    Actually, ksk, stephen's been doing those things lately. Getting bigger at the tackle position. Good depth at wr, d-backs, o-line and d-line. Zeke catching passes. Brought in Pollard. Guys like William's and McGovern setting us up to deal with big deals for o-line personnel. Not there yet, but improving. Two more coaches need to go.
  16. Crazed Liotta Eyes

    Crazed Liotta Eyes Well-Known Member

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    This thread is not going to go well. :laugh:
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  17. BotchedLobotomy

    BotchedLobotomy Wide Right

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    #8 Should be higher on their list
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  18. Dunks3001

    Dunks3001 Active Member

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    Time Management and Situational football are one of NE biggest strengths and one of Garret's biggest weaknesses. Add that to the list
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  19. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    You forgot:

    Have the other 3 teams in your division stuck in a constant rebuild cycle led by ever-changing new management each more clueless than the last
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  20. CouchCoach

    CouchCoach Well-Known Member

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    He went to the playoffs with Cassel and had a winning record when Brady was suspended. Other than that, he hasn't had to win without him but I have little doubt he would. Brady is great, Belichick is greater. Brady has had a top 10 run game and D every time he won it, every time.

    Look, I don't like him but I can't do anything but admire what he's done and no one, not even his minions, have come close to duplicating it. There's only one guy that has figured out how to build and more importantly, maintain, a true contender during the cap era.

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