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If you were a hot assistant, why would you want to come to Dallas? Parcells is a mini-tyrant who forbids his coordinators from speaking to the press. That's a work environment conducive to success?? Conversely, in DC, you're well paid and you can speak freely. I live in DC, and I can assure you that guys like Bugel and Williams had as much or more airtime than Gibbs. Saunders will be no different. Yeah, Gibbs is a dinosaur like Tuna, but not an ego-driven emperor.
 

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bbgun said:
If you were a hot assistant, why would you want to come to Dallas? Parcells is a mini-tyrant who forbids his coordinators from speaking to the press. That's a work environment conducive to success?? Conversely, in DC, you're well paid and you can speak freely. I live in DC, and I can assure you that guys like Bugel and Williams had as much or more airtime than Gibbs. Saunders will be no different. Yeah, Gibbs is a dinosaur like Tuna, but not an ego-driven emperor.

Yeah, Payton hated it so much he decided to institute the exact same policy with his assistants when he left.

Must have been a nightmare. ~shudder~

p.s. I would bet you anything that a majority of coaches are glad they don't have to deal with the media BS.
 

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How many "hot assistants" did the Patriots sign from other teams?

How many "hot assistants" did the Cowboys sign from other teams that led us to our Super Bowls in the 1990s?

How many "hot assistants" have the four remaining playoff teams signed from other teams?
 

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Maybe because Parcells is widely regarded as one of the best head coaches in NFL history and, however difficult it is to work with him on a personal level, experience on Parcell's staff goes a long way to shore up a coaching resume?
 

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bbgun said:
If you were a hot assistant, why would you want to come to Dallas? Parcells is a mini-tyrant who forbids his coordinators from speaking to the press. That's a work environment conducive to success?? Conversely, in DC, you're well paid and you can speak freely. I live in DC, and I can assure you that guys like Bugel and Williams had as much or more airtime than Gibbs. Saunders will be no different. Yeah, Gibbs is a dinosaur like Tuna, but not an ego-driven emperor.


You makes some good points.

The only reason I would come to Dallas would be:

1) To work and gain some knowledge of a Hall of Fame Coach.

2) A possible opportunity to coach the Cowboys after his Bill's Retirement.

I have heard that Bill does make life miserable on a daily basis...and that is on a good day.

- Mike G.
 

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There is no evidence that gagging the coaches has an effect on whether they get hired.

In fact, it might even help by adding an air of mystery to them.
 

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Yeah, Payton hated it so much he decided to institute the exact same policy with his assistants when he left.

Uh huh. And let's see how many cream of the crop assistants he and Bill attract. Copying one of Bill's backward policies doesn't make him wise.
 

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Well, the almighty Belichick doesn't allow his assistants to talk to the press either. The same can be said for Coughlin, Romeo Crennel, and Charlie Weiss.

All assistants under Parcells who apparently didn't mind the rule and in fact, believe it's a good rule to have.


Rich......................
 

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bbgun said:
If you were a hot assistant, why would you want to come to Dallas?

I don't know.

Why don't you ask Bill Belichek, the head coach for the 3 time champion New England Patriots.

Or maybe ask Romeo Crennel, Head Coach of the Clevland Browns.

Or maybe ask Nick Saban, Head Coach of the Dolphins.

Or maybe ask Tom Coughlin, Head Coach of the NY Giants.

Or maybe ask Sean Payton, Head Coach of the New Orleans Saints.

Or maybe Maurice Carthon, a finalist for some coaching jobs.

Or maybe Mike Zimmer, someone who gets interviews for head coaching jobs.

Yeah.... why would a coach want to be coordinator for Parcells? Clearly he is such a tyrant his coordinators were foolish to work for him.

How much would it cost you to buy a clue?
 

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bbgun said:
If you were a hot assistant, why would you want to come to Dallas? Parcells is a mini-tyrant who forbids his coordinators from speaking to the press. That's a work environment conducive to success?? Conversely, in DC, you're well paid and you can speak freely. I live in DC, and I can assure you that guys like Bugel and Williams had as much or more airtime than Gibbs. Saunders will be no different. Yeah, Gibbs is a dinosaur like Tuna, but not an ego-driven emperor.
Even more than that, what about the story from the Belichick book about Parcells intentionally berating him in front of the staff, saying something like, "That's so stupid... No wonder you were a failure in Cleveland."

That's something I wouldn't want to put up with if I were an assistant.

But even more than that, I think Parcells just doesn't want to work with anybody he doesn't already know and/or can't control. He was forced to in 2003, but even some of those relationships (Warhop) became a disaster almost immediately.
 

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If you were a hot assistant, why would you want to come to Dallas? Parcells is a mini-tyrant who forbids his coordinators from speaking to the press.
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Maybe because of the many former Parcells' coordinators and assistants who are now head coaches.
 

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cobra said:
I don't know.

Why don't you ask Bill Belichek, the head coach for the 3 time champion New England Patriots.

Or maybe ask Romeo Crennel, Head Coach of the Clevland Browns.

Or maybe ask Nick Saban, Head Coach of the Dolphins.

Or maybe ask Tom Coughlin, Head Coach of the NY Giants.

Or maybe ask Sean Payton, Head Coach of the New Orleans Saints.

Or maybe Maurice Carthon, a finalist for some coaching jobs.

Or maybe Mike Zimmer, someone who gets interviews for head coaching jobs.

Yeah.... why would a coach want to be coordinator for Parcells? Clearly he is such a tyrant his coordinators were foolish to work for him.

How much would it cost you to buy a clue?


HAHHAHA :lmao: :lmao:
 

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Wasn't Payton a "hot" assistant?


Being as though he is a head coach now, I'd say yes.

Also, regardless of weather it's Brooks, or a Rookie at QB...the Saints know Payton is good with QBs.
 

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This is very funny... back about 3 years ago during the Crampo era... what did this team desperately need? DISCIPLINE!!! Everyone was overjoyed to hear that Parcells the disciplinarian was going to be our next HC back then. Now we're crying tyrant???

The buck begins and ends with Parcells... no assistant coach was to be allowed to speak... Accountability for the whole team by a future HOF coach! YAY everyone screams!! Assistants speaking to the media was more of a protective measure initiated by Parcells when I first heard it IMO... Now Parcells is equal to Stalin or any other ol' tyrant because his assistants can't speak their mind. BOO HOO! I could care less.

Fix the DANG OL and we're in like Flynn... Everything that was once broken is getting fixed... All CowboyZone members know that has been the case... The D was bad 2 years ago... Now it's top 10... Offense collapsed due to lack of depth at OL and age... We're going to fix that next. BOOK IT!

Stop worrying Zoners... we weren't supposed to be a SB contender until year 3-4... we're still on track. Doom and gloom be danged!!

:storm:
 

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The opportunity to work under one of the best HC's around, and add that to your resume? the hell you say why would anyone do that. I know he is overcontrolling, but that is a great resume point and we have a good team that is playoff bound.
 

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Why would assistants come to work for Parcells?

Quick quiz:

How many current HCs, pro & college, worked under that bastid Parcells?
I can count Belichick, Weiss, Crennel, Saban, Mangini, Groh, Payton, not to mention "hot" assistants like Henning & Carthon (who will probably be a HC in a few years). Hey--ESPN was creaming their panties the other day about 7 ACs off the Belichick tree, all of them now HCs. Interestingly, every one of them had also been ACs under Parcells (altho ESPN conveniently forgot to mention that in their daily blow-fest of the Patriots & how wonderful they are).

Now, how many of Gibbs' proteges have gone on to be successful HCs?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Bueller, Bueller, anyone, anyone?

I love the way people b**** about Parcells being a tyrant. Apparently every other coach in the NFL is a sweet lovable huggy-bear, who passes out candy & ice cream to his assistants & every day is a party & they sing "Good Morning Sunshine" to start the day. Yup, that evil bastid' Parcells.

Funny thing: Belichick refuses to allow his assistants to speak to the press, Saban was called the Nick-tator from day one of taking over the Dolphins (& refuses to allow his assistants to talk to the press), Gruden doesn't strike me a real easy-going guy (I'm guessing that someone who brags about coming in to work by 3am probably expects much the same from his assistants), Billick--'nuff said, there was a program about Holmgren where his former assistants talked about what a hard-a** he was to work for, etc.

Really--people are getting worked up about assistant coaches the way they get worked up over "big-name" FAs. Remember the melt-down a couple of years ago when Danny-Boy was signing all sorts of "name" FAs? Now everyone's all in a lather about "hot" ACs being signed or not signed. Chill. A great AC isn't going to assure a team of anything, anymore than a great FA is. (Exhibits A & B: TO & Randy Moss. Remember last spring, when all the "experts" were just positive that Moss catching passes from Kerry Collins with the Raiders would be unstoppable? Hey, we should have just written them a ticket to the AFC Championship game because they were absolutely going to steamroll their division? Randy Galloway even wrote a column about what a great QB Collins was & what a mistake the Boys made by not signing him--compared him to Delhomme. Well, I'm thinking Norv Turner, as he trucks his belongings over to the 49ers, might want to tell you there's no such thing as a "sure" thing. Or Coach Joe--& why hasn't anyone suggested that we get him back here for special teams?)
 

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Hiero said:
The opportunity to work under one of the best HC's around, and add that to your resume? the hell you say why would anyone do that. I know he is overcontrolling, but that is a great resume point and we have a good team that is playoff bound.

Let me put it another way: would the likes of Saunders and Williams work in Dallas for less pay and Bill's bulls***? No. The Skins attract filet mignon, but thanks to Bill, Dallas gets hamburger helper.
 

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Kittymama said:
Why would assistants come to work for Parcells?

Quick quiz:

How many current HCs, pro & college, worked under that ******* Parcells?
I can count Belichick, Weiss, Crennel, Saban, Mangini, Groh, Payton, not to mention "hot" assistants like Henning & Carthon (who will probably be a HC in a few years). Hey--ESPN was creaming their panties the other day about 7 ACs off the Belichick tree, all of them now HCs. Interestingly, every one of them had also been ACs under Parcells (altho ESPN conveniently forgot to mention that in their daily blow-fest of the Patriots & how wonderful they are).

Now, how many of Gibbs' proteges have gone on to be successful HCs?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Bueller, Bueller, anyone, anyone?

I love the way people b**** about Parcells being a tyrant. Apparently every other coach in the NFL is a sweet lovable huggy-bear, who passes out candy & ice cream to his assistants & every day is a party & they sing "Good Morning Sunshine" to start the day. Yup, that evil bastid' Parcells.

Funny thing: Belichick refuses to allow his assistants to speak to the press, Saban was called the Nick-tator from day one of taking over the Dolphins (& refuses to allow his assistants to talk to the press), Gruden doesn't strike me a real easy-going guy (I'm guessing that someone who brags about coming in to work by 3am probably expects much the same from his assistants), Billick--'nuff said, there was a program about Holmgren where his former assistants talked about what a hard-a** he was to work for, etc.

Really--people are getting worked up about assistant coaches the way they get worked up over "big-name" FAs. Remember the melt-down a couple of years ago when Danny-Boy was signing all sorts of "name" FAs? Now everyone's all in a lather about "hot" ACs being signed or not signed. Chill. A great AC isn't going to assure a team of anything, anymore than a great FA is. (Exhibits A & B: TO & Randy Moss. Remember last spring, when all the "experts" were just positive that Moss catching passes from Kerry Collins with the Raiders would be unstoppable? Hey, we should have just written them a ticket to the AFC Championship game because they were absolutely going to steamroll their division? Randy Galloway even wrote a column about what a great QB Collins was & what a mistake the Boys made by not signing him--compared him to Delhomme. Well, I'm thinking Norv Turner, as he trucks his belongings over to the 49ers, might want to tell you there's no such thing as a "sure" thing. Or Coach Joe--& why hasn't anyone suggested that we get him back here for special teams?)


Good morning sunshine...:lmao2:

Norv Turner a 49er kind of makes my stomach ill... YECH...:puke:
 
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