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LocimusPrime

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lol. Bryant has been around Dallas for much longer than three years. Don't cherry pick.1300 yrd seasons are not elite in the no hit sizzle player NFL. 20 YRS AGO ...OK. Not now.
:thumbup: There's about 30 players that probably will get over 1000yds receiving this year with 2 games to go
 

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lol. Bryant has been around Dallas for much longer than three years. Don't cherry pick.1300 yrd seasons are not elite in the no hit sizzle player NFL. 20 YRS AGO ...OK. Not now.

Looool, smh.

And 12-14 TDs a year...

So "cherry picking" is using three years of data?

GTHOH
 

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Your only kidding yourself about Bryant. He has a role. Prescott is not fooled. The coaching staff is not fooled.Bryant doesn't even have good hands. He is a good 2nd receiver....that would be his best role in Dallas until the big money is paid out. The Cowboys really need a true number one WR that is consistant, bright and that has sure hands. The coaches have done their best to simplify and use Dez the best they could. But, its time to draft a real # 1WO for the upcoming SB runs. The club has finally found the stud Franchise QB and RB...next WR.

Lol, meanwhile you were throwing up the "X" with Dez under Romo.

Far be it for you to actually look at the numbers, but all of our receivers numbers are down this season under Prescott. The one player who's numbers are up is Cole Beasley. Go figure; the guy that runs QB friendly underneath and short crossing routes.
 

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WR is down the list of needs. It's defense first and everyone knows it. Wouldn't mind a fast receiver in the 3rd round or something like that. Receivers don't win games. Period. We run the ball and play good defense. That's a formula for success. Don't get cute and try to fix that.

Where did the Steelers find Antonio Brown? In the sixth round? Good players are all over the nation and all over the draft. The key is to have guys in your scouting department who can find them like we found Anthony Brown.
I agree with you. I wouldn't take a receiver in the first round, especially where we're drafting unless he had undeniable talent. But if he did, he'd be gone by the time the Cowboys pick.
Bolster the defense and find a gem in later rounds.
 

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Far be it for you to actually look at the numbers, but all of our receivers numbers are down this season under Prescott. The one player who's numbers are up is Cole Beasley. Go figure; the guy that runs QB friendly underneath and short crossing routes.

But rushing attempts are up over last year 448 to 408 with two games to ago. Isn't rushing attempts and passing attempts proportional, i.e., the more rushing attempts the fewer the passing attempts and vice versa? We're about 100 off the rushing mark from 2014 (508).

I guess this prompts the question ... when you say "down this season" what season are you comparing 2016 with?
Cole Beasley (68), Jason Witten (66) and Terrance Williams (37) have caught more balls (assuming TWilliams catches one ball in tonight's or next week's game) this year than they did in 2014 playing with Romo (TWill 37), Beasley (37), Witten (64). Of course, Dez benefited more under Romo in 2014 (88) than he has under Dak (46).

I assume you would be comparing with 2014 and not 2015 when Dez was injured for most of the year, and we had three quarterbacks who were barely effective, and we found ourselves passing to catch up and keep up with our opponents. But maybe I'm wrong. Elaborate, please, if you don't mind. Thanks.
 

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But rushing attempts are up over last year 448 to 408 with two games to ago. Isn't rushing attempts and passing attempts proportional, i.e., the more rushing attempts the fewer the passing attempts and vice versa? We're about 100 off the rushing mark from 2014 (508).

I guess this prompts the question ... when you say "down this season" what season are you comparing 2016 with?
Cole Beasley (68), Jason Witten (66) and Terrance Williams (37) have caught more balls (assuming TWilliams catches one ball in tonight's or next week's game) this year than they did in 2014 playing with Romo (TWill 37), Beasley (37), Witten (64). Of course, Dez benefited more under Romo in 2014 (88) than he has under Dak (46).

I assume you would be comparing with 2014 and not 2015 when Dez was injured for most of the year, and we had three quarterbacks who were barely effective, and we found ourselves passing to catch up and keep up with our opponents. But maybe I'm wrong. Elaborate, please, if you don't mind. Thanks.

No, you're absolutely right, comparing 2016 to 2015 (or 2015 to 2014) is simply apples-to-oranges.

Look at the efficiency and production of the receiving numbers under Prescott and Romo (i.e. 2016 vs. 2014). And I have to qualify what I'm saying that it's not misconstrued as criticism towards Prescott, but I think I'm just calling out the obvious. The passing attack under Romo was much more lethal than it is under Prescott.

Dez's 2014 numbers were much better under Romo and that goes right at the heart of the recent discussion on this thread. Further, look at the other evidence. Witten's YPR was up 1.5 yards (11.0) a catch in 2014 than compared to this year. Also, the fact Witten has already exceeded his catch total this year (66) than all of 2014 (64) speaks to exactly what I'm talking about with Prescott; as a young QB he's relying on his receivers (Witten and Beasley) which run much quicker, easier routes that are simple to read and get the ball out. Cole Beasley went from just 49 targets in 2014 to 89 this year with still two games to go.

But back to Dez. With Romo at the helm, Dez was absolutely the lead dog with 139 targets (Witten in distant second with 90), as he was in 2013, et cetera. So when people say "Dez isn't a #1" it's completely bogus and unfounded.

We don't even have to get into the disparity of touchdown passes either (34 vs. 20 currently).
 
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No, you're absolutely right, comparing 2016 to 2015 (or 2015 to 2014) is simply apples-to-oranges.

Look at the efficiency and production of the receiving numbers under Prescott and Romo (i.e. 2016 vs. 2014). And I have to qualify what I'm saying that it's not misconstrued as criticism towards Prescott, but I think I'm just calling out the obvious. The passing attack under Romo was much more lethal than it is under Prescott.

Dez's numbers were much better under Romo and that goes right at the heart of the recent discussion on this thread. Further, look at the other evidence. Witten's numbers YPR were up 1.5 yards (11.0) a catch than this year. Also, the fact Witten has already exceeded his catch total this year (66) than all of 2014 (64) speaks to exactly what I'm talking about with Prescott; as a young QB he's relying on his receivers (Witten and Beasley) which run much quicker, easier routes that are simple to read and get the ball out. Cole Beasley went from just 49 targets in 2014 to 89 this year with still two games to go.

But back to Dez. With Romo at the helm, Dez was absolutely the lead dog with 139 targets (Witten in distant second with 90), as he was in 2013, et cetera. So when people say "Dez isn't a #1" it's completely bogus and unfounded.

We don't even have to get into the disparity of touchdown passes either (34 vs. 20 currently).

Thanks for the explanation.
 
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