Think again...great draft picks tonight.

[TheDallasDon]

I'm sorry not a fan of the Murray pick.........we could have got a RB in rounds 5-undrafted

Or even picked up R.Bush in FA if we wanted a, injury prone/3rd down/special teams/backfield receiver

 

[Primetime42]

Hear hear!!!

 

[johnnyd]

Love the Carter pick think he will be a beast a double digit tackling machine like a eugene lockhart

and while i really like murray as a player i can't endorse this pick . rackley and moffit where not "backup" Og's IMO they were potential starters this season and there presence would have spelled the end to one of the worst players on our team in leonard davis why does bigg get a pass but everyone kills columbo?

While im happy with Tyron and glad we got him. and while it never materialized anyway. This kind of use of a 3 is why i had no issue including this pick in a potential trade up for PP. Before the draft the possibilties are endless but after the draft we have a wasted pick and board on the verge of mass Hari kari

 

[Chuck 54]

With regard to Carter, Garrett just said he is a beast on special teams. Clearly he will be on the field a lot if that is true. Any input you have about that would be appreciated wayne!

Sorry...I don't know much about his special teams play other than he blocked two extra points last season, I think.

I love his size, his speed, and his desire...he's no Dick Butkus when it comes to being physical, but he was playing SLB in a 4-3 at UNC.

Any LB who runs a 4.5 forty with his athleticism should be expected to be a terror on ST, but I'm betting Rob Ryan wants him in the nickel...and we needed another young guy...Brady james has been very reliable, but one injury to him and we're relying on Brooking and Lee only. I think it was a smart pick.

Where people make the mistake is thinking that a guy like Paea would be a better NT than Ratliff or that any big DT would start at DE for us or that any of the OG's, none of whom were rated very highly after the kid Philly took in round 1, would have started for us. We have to gradually improve depth and starters, but right now Garrett and Ryan have done that with players who will also have active roles that make the defense and offense better until they are ready to start.

 

[Chuck 54]

Is Carter really 250? I've seen 240

Kiper's Guide usually publishes the height and weight from the Combine...he had 250.

 

[Bulldog]

DeMarco Murray is not an elusive runner, but he's a big, strong, powerful runner with incredible speed...6'0"...214...4.34 40. He's a great addition to the RB corps and will be better than Choice in all aspects. He will take over totally on 3rd downs. He's a great pass blocker and blitz pickup guy...he's a great receiver, a poor man's marshall faulk in that area...he can run routes and catch downfield, not just swing passes...with his pass receiving and speed, he'll destroy LBs. He scored 15 TDs last season...ran for over 1200 yards...was first team all Big 12 RB. But get this...he caught 71 passes for almost 600 yards.

He is also made of glass.

Love the first two picks though.

 

[VACowboy]

I know nothing about Murray, except what Mayock said tonight and what's been posted here, but I think a lightning-fast RB who's superb in blitz pickup and polished as a receiver improves the Dallas offense immensely.

I don't know how anyone who's seen Carter play can have a problem with his selection.

 

[Chuck 54]

Injury prone 3rd down back. He's a poor man's Felix Jones. If we want someone to take Barber's place then Murray isn't it. This makes no sense and there were quite a few better prospects on the board in the 3rd.

You call 1200 yards, 15 tds, 71 receptions, all in his senior year injury prone and a poor man's Felix? Felix never sniffed any of those numbers, ever, and Felix had some injuries in college too if you remember...and was never a starter.

Felix has more wiggle and will remain the starting RB, but Felix sucks in the passing game...neither he nor Choice can pick up the blitz, and Felix is not a good receiver. Murray is a huge upgrade over both of those guys in the passing game, which is a huge part of the game.

And he knows how to get into the end zone, man.

 

[honyock]

Rob Ryan is the defensive coordinator. You can bet Carter was his choice over any remaining 300 lbers at that point. Players do not have to start to greatly improve our defense and offense.

Nice post and analysis. I think Ryan is going to love Carter and will use him like a mad scientist. Even if he isn't starting, I can see him getting on the field a lot, in those formations with lots of linebackers on the field. That combination of speed and range and coverage ability should be great in Ryan's D. The fact that he possibly won't be on the field on first down, at least this year, shouldn't lead to the conclusion that he won't contribute. I think he'll get a ton of snaps as the year goes on.

I was flummoxed by the Murray pick, but I'm beginning to get it. The points about his blocking and blitz pickups are great. He can play in the slot, so I bet he and Felix are on the field at the same time quite a bit. He offers things that no other RB on the roster does, and Garrett should be able to play to Murray's strengths and be creative in using he and Felix.

I never understood why it seemed that Garrett never liked or trusted Choice, but I guess that he just wasn't a Garrett kind of guy. Working on a nice autograph collection, though.

 

[Prossman]

he tore his acl. I heard he wont be ready until summer or maybe fall. How is this guy going to be a impact player this year? You sure he is still going to run a 4.5 when he is healthy? Now if he comes back in time for TC and hasnt lost a step because of the acl tear, i like the pick. If not he will be redshirted for the year and a waisted 2nd rounder, atleast for this year.
Murray better than choice? He runs high, has trouble finding holes, and is injury prone. But he is good at catching the ball outta the backfield. Sorry if im not jumping for joy over this one.

I have had Backed Jerry Jones til the cows come home but enough is enough. I truely hope carter comes back healty and Murray is the best back on this team but to me our 2nd day was a absolute joke and jerry should resign as GM. Prossman

 

[ChopBlock]

You call 1200 yards, 15 tds, 71 receptions, all in his senior year injury prone and a poor man's Felix? Felix never sniffed any of those numbers, ever, and Felix had some injuries in college too if you remember...and was never a starter.

Felix has more wiggle and will remain the starting RB, but Felix sucks in the passing game...neither he nor Choice can pick up the blitz, and Felix is not a good receiver. Murray is a huge upgrade over both of those guys in the passing game, which is a huge part of the game.

And he knows how to get into the end zone, man.

He's missed games in the last 3 years. Didn't have over 100 yards in any of his last 8 games. And if they want to replace Barber then this isn't the answer since Barber is a power back and to quote some scouts, Murray "lacks power and tends to shy away from contact".

A situational back and kick returner could've been found later in the draft. There were much better prospects to be had in the 3rd who could potentially be full time starters, man.

 

[Chuck 54]

If you think Murray was selected as another RB to push Felix or Choice, then of course you are unhappy with the pick...and I keep hearing people saying we could have gotten a RB in later rounds...yes, that's true.

Stop thinking of him as another RB...he was selected as our passing game specialist at RB, our Preston Pearson of the 70's. We tried Choice and Felix as 3rd down backs and kept having to pull the better backs and speed off the field because neither guy could block and pick up the blitz...we had to keep coming back to MBIII, who gave us no threat back there.

Murray is supposed to be among the top 2-3 blocking RBs in the entire draft, excellent at blitz pickup...add that to his home run speed, which is far superior to Felix or Choice, and his ability to run routes downfield and catch the ball downfield like the great pass receiving backs, that's going to be his role.

He won't be a backup RB...he'll be the RB in the passing game, the 3rd down back, and if he gets into the end zone as well as he did in college, he may even be our redzone and short yardage back...he's MBIII with better hands, more athleticism and 3 times the speed. For us, this is a key role that will keep Romo safer and improve the offense...Did you see Garrett smiling while on the phone with him...he knows what he's going to do with the guy.

 

[TNCowboy]

Felix Jones averaged more than double the YPC that Murray did their last year in college....and Felix was running against SEC defenses.

Murray's a jag. Sugarcoat it however you want.

 

[Chuck 54]

he tore his acl. I heard he wont be ready until summer or maybe fall. How is this guy going to be a impact player this year? You sure he is still going to run a 4.5 when he is healthy? Now if he comes back in time for TC and hasnt lost a step because of the acl tear, i like the pick. If not he will be redshirted for the year and a waisted 2nd rounder, atleast for this year.
Murray better than choice? He runs high, has trouble finding holes, and is injury prone. But he is good at catching the ball outta the backfield. Sorry if im not jumping for joy over this one.

I have had Backed Jerry Jones til the cows come home but enough is enough. I truely hope carter comes back healty and Murray is the best back on this team but to me our 2nd day was a absolute joke and jerry should resign as GM. Prossman

Carter, the LB...I haven't heard about tears or surgery, but maybe so...I do know he injured the ACL in November, didn't run at the Combine, but was there and did 25 reps in the lifting, so his recovery must be on the way, at least.

 

[ndanger]

Rob Ryan is the defensive coordinator. You can bet Carter was his choice over any remaining 300 lbers at that point. Players do not have to start to greatly improve our defense and offense.

Carter will play ILB...6'2"...250...runs a 4.5 40...I saw him play his junior year and he was incredible...makes tackles from sideline to sideline, and he's very good in pass coverage. Unlikely he'll make the starting unit...that's likely to be James and Lee, hopefully, maybe James and Brooking though. While he's groomed the way Lee was groomed last year, Carter will make an excellent nickel LB, getting James and Brooking off the field in passing situations. That improves our defense now and in the future.

DeMarco Murray is not an elusive runner, but he's a big, strong, powerful runner with incredible speed...6'0"...214...4.34 40. He's a great addition to the RB corps and will be better than Choice in all aspects. He will take over totally on 3rd downs. He's a great pass blocker and blitz pickup guy...he's a great receiver, a poor man's marshall faulk in that area...he can run routes and catch downfield, not just swing passes...with his pass receiving and speed, he'll destroy LBs. He scored 15 TDs last season...ran for over 1200 yards...was first team all Big 12 RB. But get this...he caught 71 passes for almost 600 yards and 5 TDs!!!

MBIII is done...Felix and Choice both suck in pass protection...Murray is another big play guy who, while limited in some respects, vastly improves our offense and passing game. Choice is way over-rated by most fans.

If you're a huge Garrett fan and you've been saying you're happy with the Rob Ryan hire, then you have to put down your draft guides and trust that Ryan chose Carter as his #1 guy on defense at 40 and knows how he wants to use him, and Garrett chose Murray over a backup OG who might have developed into a starter because he's excited about both protecting Romo better on blitzes and giving him a real RB threat in the passing game.

You can't believe in Garrett and Ryan and not give them the benefit of the doubt on these picks in their first draft here.

I really wanted some trades and extra picks...I really wanted Aaron Williams for CB/S, and I was hoping for DT Paea with #40, but I really love these draft picks the more I read about them and think about how they will be used and what they will bring to the team both as rookies and into the future.

That was well thought ,well said and right on the money. Thank you.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

Murray's best case scenario is Kevin Faulk. Color me unimpressed.

 

[Chuck 54]

Felix Jones averaged more than double the YPC that Murray did their last year in college....and Felix was running against SEC defenses.

Murray's a jag. Sugarcoat it however you want.

So you think ypc is more important than tds, shouldering the load all season, not just 10 carries per game?

If you told me I could only have one rb, I take Felix, despite his horrible blocking and hands...he is elusive...murray isn't. But your negativity is totally missing the point. Murray brings things to the offense that are critical to success and QB health...these are things that Felix and Choice have proven unable to handle. Unless you have a Marshall Faulk running and receiving, you try to find one guy to run and another guy who can block, run routes, and catch. I'm not sure why you don't see that.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Felix Jones averaged more than double the YPC that Murray did their last year in college....and Felix was running against SEC defenses.

Exactly. Felix shared carries and went against the best defensive league in the country. Murray played for a team that had overwhelming offensive talent against poorer defenses.

I listen to Oklahoma sports talk radio almost every day, and they don't even think that much of him. They consider him what he was -- a top prospect who never lived up to his talent, and if anything gradually went backwards.

Maybe we get lucky and this is a Terrell Davis situation where his college injuries were a fluke and he plays to his talent as a pro. But I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[Chuck 54]

Murray's best case scenario is Kevin Faulk. Color me unimpressed.

Wow...you don't think Kevin Faulk was critical to NE's success on third down? and even winning championships?

 

[slotshot]

How many O-Line guys from OU are gong to be drafted high this year...or at all? I really don't know, not being stinky about it.

My point is - how was his run blocking?