This is what Pacman did

[YosemiteSam]

The Cowboys are freeing up cash (and disposing of poor character) since it appears both Scandrick and Jenkins are going to pan out. I believe it will clear out some $3.3M (no signing bonus) a year? ($13.3M / 4 = $3.3M)

 

[Randy White]

Jones allegedly hiring a hit man isn't "news"

Dude, you're all over the place, not to mention intellectually dishonest. When Adam told you what BSPN was going to report on Sunday was old news, you said:

Yes, the incident is old, but this is a new development, which is why I used that word.

and

They knew about the old crap, not the latest twist/turn. Informed vs. contacted = apples and oranges

and now you're saying the " new development/latest twist " is actually Jerry Jones hiring a " hitman " ?

Please.

 

[YosemiteSam]

and now you're saying the " new development/latest twist " is actually Jerry Jones hiring a " hitman " ?

You mean Adam Jones?

 

[bbgun]

and now you're saying the " new development/latest twist " is actually Jerry Jones hiring a " hitman " ?

Please.

Humor, right? Besides, Jerry kills with his bare hands. He doesn't need outside help.

 

[Randy White]

Humor, right? Besides, Jerry kills with his bare hands. He doesn't need outside help.

Well, considering that particular news is over a year old, Pacman was convicted for a role on a similar incident in Vegas, and him playing with the team for over 10 months, what's new about it ?

 

[bbgun]

Well, considering that particular news is over a year old, Pacman was convicted for a role on a similar incident in Vegas, and him playing with the team for over 10 months, what's new about it ?

Oh, so you weren't kidding. How depressing. One more time for the learning impaired: The shooting incident is old, but the hit man angle is new. Big difference between being in the vicinity of a shooting and (allegedly) ordering a murder. That's why he's no longer a Cowboy. The rest amounts to trivia.

 

[Randy White]

I think Jerrah is being a fraud if he says he's releasing Pacman because of this old " latest twist ".

His true intentions, if I'm reading him right, are actually more valid: sending a message to the rest of the team that there will be accountability in the lockerroom.

 

[Randy White]

Oh, so you weren't kidding. How depressing. One more time for the learning impaired: The shooting incident is old, but the hit man angle is new. Big difference between being in the vicinity of a shooting and (allegedly) ordering a murder. That's why he's no longer a Cowboy. The rest amounts to trivia.

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention over the past 2 years, but Pacman was accused of the same thing in the Vegas incident. That he was convicted for playing another role is a different matter, but the accusations were the same, so I ask you again:

What's new about it ?

 

[bbgun]

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention over the past 2 years, but Pacman was accused of the same thing in the Vegas incident. That he was convicted for playing another role is a different matter, but the accusations were the same, so I ask you again:

What's new about it ?

You're asking the wrong person. Jerry obviously thought something was "new" about it, otherwise Pac would still be a Cowboy. In terms of Vegas, he was never "convicted" of anything. He was charged with two felonies and then accepted a plea deal.

 

[ethiostar]

He can be accused of something he did when he was 18 and it will still be a 'new' crime that he hasn't been accused of 'until now.'

 

[Da Hammer]

i dont understand how it was a bad trade. it was a low risk/high reward deal that well honestly had its ups and downs. i thought Pacman played very solid at CB n was our most consistent CB throught the season when he played. in fact i think it was a good trade because early in the year Newman was banged up n Pacman stepped up. he might not have had any INTs but he had many deflections from dropped INT's. for just givin up one late round pick i would say because of the circumstances it was a good trade for this past season

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

i dont understand how it was a bad trade. it was a low risk/high reward deal that well honestly had its ups and downs. i thought Pacman played very solid at CB n was our most consistent CB throught the season when he played. in fact i think it was a good trade because early in the year Newman was banged up n Pacman stepped up. he might not have had any INTs but he had many deflections from dropped INT's. for just givin up one late round pick i would say because of the circumstances it was a good trade for this past season

Its simple... anyone who poopooed the deal from the start can YELL I was RIGHT!! I was RIGHT!!

Which of course is more important than hoping that it works out.

 

[Doomsday101]

Its simple... anyone who poopooed the deal from the start can YELL I was RIGHT!! I was RIGHT!!

Which of course is more important than hoping that it works out.

Which is why I have not said I was right. I was opposed to getting him but once he was here I was hoping for the best. Once he got suspended I was hoping Dallas would release him and thankfully Jerry did that today. I think everyone understood Jerry was taking a risk on Pacman and in the end the risk did not pay off but lucky for Dallas did not cost a lot

 

[Randy White]

You're asking the wrong person. Jerry obviously thought something was "new" about it, otherwise Pac would still be a Cowboy. In terms of Vegas, he was never "convicted" of anything. He was charged with two felonies and then accepted a plea deal.

Accepting a plea deal = a conviction.

as for Jerrah thinking it was " something new ", again, if that's true, then he's lying. It wasn't new, he knew it, BSPN new it, and anybody associated with Pacman knew it.

and, again, if he's using that as an excuse to release Pacman, it's a weak copout. Just admit he didn't work out the way he hoped, so adios.

 

[Da Hammer]

Its simple... anyone who poopooed the deal from the start can YELL I was RIGHT!! I was RIGHT!!

Which of course is more important than hoping that it works out.

yea sadly we get that a lot here with different areas of the team. but i still dont even see it as a legit argument for those folks that it was a "bad or horrible trade" because in the end it didnt cost us anything significant! and a trade not workin long term doesnt necessarily equal bad trade. for this year because of the injuries id say pacman did enough for us! also gotta factor that it kept Scandrick and Jenkins from being pushed too far into the fire early in their possibly very bright careers. they got enough experience but at the same time we didnt push them beyond their limit because of having Pacman here!

 

[wileedog]

yea sadly we get that a lot here with different areas of the team. but i still dont even see it as a legit argument for those folks that it was a "bad or horrible trade" because in the end it didnt cost us anything significant! and a trade not workin long term doesnt necessarily equal bad trade. for this year because of the injuries id say pacman did enough for us! also gotta factor that it kept Scandrick and Jenkins from being pushed too far into the fire early in their possibly very bright careers. they got enough experience but at the same time we didnt push them beyond their limit because of having Pacman here!

There wasn't so much wrong with the trade as with the way Pacman was handled.

If you are going to give a known idiot another chance, hire bodyguards and whatnot to keep him out of trouble, etc, you damn well better hold him accountable if he screws up.

Pacman screws up and gets suspended again. That should have been it. Game over. He is still a moron who doesn't get it, and any coach or GM with a shred of accountabilty ends the experiment right there and moves on. Oh well.

Instead Pacman comes back from suspension and is immediately put right back in the starting lineup, over Scandrick who had been playing better than him anyway. It proves to the team once again whether you play good or bad, practice well or not, do all the right things on the field or off - doesn't matter. Jerry is going to put in his new toys anyway.

And Pacman adds insult to injury with a blatantly stupid penalty and critical fumble in the last game too.

Honestly not the end of the world either way, just another glimpse into why this team is currently in the shape it is in. Plus, I really do wish Jerry would stop "bargain shopping." These are the types of deals that brought us Quincy, when Jerry thought he was outsmarting the entire league by taking a starting QB in the 2nd, when he wasn't even close. Or Hutch, when he thought he could through the most moeny at an ex baseball player and be the cleverest.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Which is why I have not said I was right. I was opposed to getting him but once he was here I was hoping for the best. Once he got suspended I was hoping Dallas would release him and thankfully Jerry did that today. I think everyone understood Jerry was taking a risk on Pacman and in the end the risk did not pay off but lucky for Dallas did not cost a lot

yea sadly we get that a lot here with different areas of the team. but i still dont even see it as a legit argument for those folks that it was a "bad or horrible trade" because in the end it didnt cost us anything significant! and a trade not workin long term doesnt necessarily equal bad trade. for this year because of the injuries id say pacman did enough for us! also gotta factor that it kept Scandrick and Jenkins from being pushed too far into the fire early in their possibly very bright careers. they got enough experience but at the same time we didnt push them beyond their limit because of having Pacman here!

When it comes to Cowboys... I will take a "WIN" over me being right any and every day.

 

[bootsy]

The media reported multiple players thought just sticking Pacman back into the lineup after his suspension was a big ** to Orlando Scandrick, who had been playing lights out in his absence. It further solidified the point around here that it doesn't matter how hard you work, how well you play, or if you just keep screwing up, the owner is going to play who he wants to.

A lot of players reportedly didn't want him here in the first place, and they were right.

Go launch Madden.

Go launch my nuts.

Just because something was reported doesn't make it true and Pacman Jones is not the only problem in the COwboys locker room. These players are grown men playing football. If they let this one thing put a damper on their season then that is pretty serious. Especially when they already knew the baggage he had before he came to the Cowboys.

 

[wileedog]

Go launch my nuts.

Just because something was reported doesn't make it true and Pacman Jones is not the only problem in the COwboys locker room.

Who said he was? Saying he was only one of the problems doesn't make him less of a problem.

Nice strawman.