This Is Why I Am Thankful To Have Jerry Jones

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Cowboys Dad;2763387 said:
I sometimes wonder about the affect that sports and fandom have on human beings. I mean I know that Eagles fans could not possibly be so horrible to root for a man to have a broken neck. It was just that the man happened to be wearing a Dallas Cowboys uniform and they simply got caught up in the hysteria of being rid of a dangerous opponent who had in the past and might yet again lead to them losing. Clearly its about sport and not about a mans broken neck right?

I bring this up because it is relevant to this weekends tragedy on two fronts. The first I am going to barely touch on because I hope folks will understand the context I am touching on it and wont spend time in this thread attacking me or hijacking the thread. Simply put, I dont understand how Jerry Jones decisions about HIS football team led some of our esteemed peers here on the cowboyszone, as well as fans of other teams on other sites, to lose sight of the reality of Saturdays scary collapse of the practice facility. For fans of the other teams see my Eagles example above as to how I see this breaking down. For the Zoners who dont like the makeup of the team, the head coach, or some other facet of what Jerry has done I have a question or two.

I know you are good people, and most of you would have reacted the way the men and women did if you and your colleagues were put in a difficult situation like the one just passed helpping fallen comrades, so why the venom in the comments about "Jerry Deserving this", jokes directed at the demise of a team, and worse attacks directed at writers, players (including wishing other players harm who were not in attendance)? Does your being a fan of a team really get so far into your life that it alters the good person that I know you are? Has jerry personally wronged you in another way?

As a sports fan the hardest lesson for me to learn was that sometimes the reality of the man surpasses his affect on my favorite team. In a sense, I learned that great men can do stupid things to my favorite team, but to always remember that when the time comes greatness will prevail. Listen I dont know if the cowboys will ever win another super bowl under Jerry. (Though looking at the direction of the team I think its likely) What I do know is as a man concerned about those affected by Saturdays tragedy I can WITHOUT A DOUBT rest assured that anything that is needed by anyone affected will be provided.

Trust in the fact that for Rich Behm, his family, Joe D and his family, Greg Gaither and family, Chris Hall and family, and any of the 70 or so people who were in that practice facility, even the ones such as Todd Archer who often times write pieces that are not so flattering about Jerry and his beloved cowboys, anything they may need will be taken care of. If they needed some counseling to move forward Jerry would provide it, at no cost. In the case of those who needed medical work done, the best will be provided at jerrys expense. For those whose care will be a longer term affair, Jerry will handle it. More than the money Jerry will provide comfort by way of the knowledge that any cost that he can remove from those involved he will. That means the obvious medical bills, compensation, in the case of the most severely hurt, job security, as well as, any special equipment, adjustments to home for living ease, vehicles with proper equipment for ease of movement and the continuation of a normal life. Jerry will also make sure that the dreams Rich Behm has for his children are met through any means necessary.

I guess what Im saying is that whether Jerry Jones can be considered a great owner in terms of player acquisition, coaches hired, or wins and losses MUST be tempered against the type of human being he is. See some will argue that the legal process will make him liable for these things. Maybe so, but what makes Jerry a great human being is that hes not going to make Rich Behm, Joe Decamillis, Greg Gaither, Chris Hall or anyone of the 70 or so affected by this scrape and claw for what is just. He will provide first, then he will proceed with investigations into what caused the collapse. So while months and years pass and fingers are pointed at the company who built the structure and the weather men who didnt warn of the impending storms, and the possibility that putting a new roof on caused it, and lawyers banty this blame back and forth in court all affected parties can relax in the knowledge that they will be taken care of.

Integrity, Loyalty, Leadership in hard time. Thats what makes the salt of a man, and Jerry Jones is one Helluva man! I know the "Fans" will continue to bash him for not drafting their favorite college player or signing their favorite free agent, or not firing a coach they don't like. I was just hoping to give pause to them by pointing out what we saw this weekend, and what we wont see because in a week the collapse will be forgotten and as those who need time continue their recovery Jerry will work just as hard to make sure all their needs are met. Just remember while you may think this team would be better off with a different owner, just ask Rich Behm and his family and the others affected by this horrible tragedy.

Thanks Jerry for taking care of your family, and in some strange fandom way, ours too!

This whole thing puts football into perspective vs. reality for me. This just kinda stood out to me but watching those players on the news, in that wreckage with helmets on, I was thinking there was no better time to have them, even in a game.

I am one to bash Jerry come hell or high water for his management of this team but I know that in this thread and for what it is supposed to be about, bashing Jerry can take a back seat.

I agree and have no doubt Jerry is taking care of those individuals who were injured in this as much as he can. I have never doubted that he takes care of his own well and he is again.
 

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iceberg;2763521 said:
if you read my post where i said I DON'T POST IN HERE MUCH ANYMORE, you'd realize i don't keep up with the latest "who's who". so while i'm sorry your infamy has escaped me it doesn't change the fact you're not funny.

so far, nothing missed.

Well , I miss see you around along with a few others that seem to post less.:starspin
 

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Cowboys Dad;2763387 said:
I sometimes wonder about the affect that sports and fandom have on human beings. I mean I know that Eagles fans could not possibly be so horrible to root for a man to have a broken neck. It was just that the man happened to be wearing a Dallas Cowboys uniform and they simply got caught up in the hysteria of being rid of a dangerous opponent who had in the past and might yet again lead to them losing. Clearly its about sport and not about a mans broken neck right?

I bring this up because it is relevant to this weekends tragedy on two fronts. The first I am going to barely touch on because I hope folks will understand the context I am touching on it and wont spend time in this thread attacking me or hijacking the thread. Simply put, I dont understand how Jerry Jones decisions about HIS football team led some of our esteemed peers here on the cowboyszone, as well as fans of other teams on other sites, to lose sight of the reality of Saturdays scary collapse of the practice facility. For fans of the other teams see my Eagles example above as to how I see this breaking down. For the Zoners who dont like the makeup of the team, the head coach, or some other facet of what Jerry has done I have a question or two.

I know you are good people, and most of you would have reacted the way the men and women did if you and your colleagues were put in a difficult situation like the one just passed helpping fallen comrades, so why the venom in the comments about "Jerry Deserving this", jokes directed at the demise of a team, and worse attacks directed at writers, players (including wishing other players harm who were not in attendance)? Does your being a fan of a team really get so far into your life that it alters the good person that I know you are? Has jerry personally wronged you in another way?

As a sports fan the hardest lesson for me to learn was that sometimes the reality of the man surpasses his affect on my favorite team. In a sense, I learned that great men can do stupid things to my favorite team, but to always remember that when the time comes greatness will prevail. Listen I dont know if the cowboys will ever win another super bowl under Jerry. (Though looking at the direction of the team I think its likely) What I do know is as a man concerned about those affected by Saturdays tragedy I can WITHOUT A DOUBT rest assured that anything that is needed by anyone affected will be provided.

Trust in the fact that for Rich Behm, his family, Joe D and his family, Greg Gaither and family, Chris Hall and family, and any of the 70 or so people who were in that practice facility, even the ones such as Todd Archer who often times write pieces that are not so flattering about Jerry and his beloved cowboys, anything they may need will be taken care of. If they needed some counseling to move forward Jerry would provide it, at no cost. In the case of those who needed medical work done, the best will be provided at jerrys expense. For those whose care will be a longer term affair, Jerry will handle it. More than the money Jerry will provide comfort by way of the knowledge that any cost that he can remove from those involved he will. That means the obvious medical bills, compensation, in the case of the most severely hurt, job security, as well as, any special equipment, adjustments to home for living ease, vehicles with proper equipment for ease of movement and the continuation of a normal life. Jerry will also make sure that the dreams Rich Behm has for his children are met through any means necessary.

I guess what Im saying is that whether Jerry Jones can be considered a great owner in terms of player acquisition, coaches hired, or wins and losses MUST be tempered against the type of human being he is. See some will argue that the legal process will make him liable for these things. Maybe so, but what makes Jerry a great human being is that hes not going to make Rich Behm, Joe Decamillis, Greg Gaither, Chris Hall or anyone of the 70 or so affected by this scrape and claw for what is just. He will provide first, then he will proceed with investigations into what caused the collapse. So while months and years pass and fingers are pointed at the company who built the structure and the weather men who didnt warn of the impending storms, and the possibility that putting a new roof on caused it, and lawyers banty this blame back and forth in court all affected parties can relax in the knowledge that they will be taken care of.

Integrity, Loyalty, Leadership in hard time. Thats what makes the salt of a man, and Jerry Jones is one Helluva man! I know the "Fans" will continue to bash him for not drafting their favorite college player or signing their favorite free agent, or not firing a coach they don't like. I was just hoping to give pause to them by pointing out what we saw this weekend, and what we wont see because in a week the collapse will be forgotten and as those who need time continue their recovery Jerry will work just as hard to make sure all their needs are met. Just remember while you may think this team would be better off with a different owner, just ask Rich Behm and his family and the others affected by this horrible tragedy.

Thanks Jerry for taking care of your family, and in some strange fandom way, ours too!
No hate here , and very well put:bow:
 

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Thank you Ladie, I appreciate you reading in my thread. As I do with all of you, whether you agree with the premiss or not, I have enjoyed reading all of your thoughtful posts.
 

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i am by no means a hater of jerry, in all honesty i don't know enough about the way he's run the franchise to have a strong opinion either way as i only started getting into american football in week three of the season just passed. it seems obvious to me, and i would imagine most others although reading some of the posts on this forum not all, that jerry the man and jerry the owner should be considered as two seperate entities. the way he has handled this and by all accounts several other situations in the past show that he has a lot of class and is a thoroughly decent man but this does not mean he automaticaly is going to be able to transfer those skills to running a football organisation. likewise while hitler was undoubtedly a succesful leader dragging germany out of the gutter to the brink of conquering all of europe i doubt many would use him as an example of what a human being should try to aspire to be.
while i obviously am a cowboys fan or i wouldn't be on this board i feel that in this instance how new i am to it and how limited my knowledge of previous history concerning jerry makes me some what neutral. the basic point i'm trying to put across is that while i feel it is perfectly acceptable to attack jerry (or anybody for that matter) regarding his performance in his role you are crossing a line if you start lowering yourself to personal attacks on the man.
 

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Bach;2763597 said:
You know Jimmy Johnson and BP were known to be hard***es and sometimes ruthless. But I'd much rather have them running the show than someone who he is just compassionate and nice but a poor GM.

How the hell does Parcells keep getting lumped in with Jimmy???


Last time I checked, under the 4 seasons Parcells was here we did not even qualify for the freaking playoffs half the time. The 2 times we did make it to the playoffs, we were one-and-done.

So what the hell did Parcells do that was so great here??? As far as GM duties, Jerry said himself that he always has and always will have total control over the roster. So Parcells didnt even have player personnel authority (see Parcells wanting to take Spears and being overruled by Jerry and Ware was picked or see "the player" being signed when the whole world knew Parcells was against it).

And even if we give him credit for upgrading the roster, it is the results on the field that matter. Upgraded talent means JACK if you cant take care of business on the field. Wade said it takes 4 years to build a championship caliber team and after 4 years under Parcells we did not even have a freaking division championship to show for it.


Bottom line..........Jimmy won 3 rings and Parcells won JACK.


Tell me again Bach why you want Parcells running the team...........
 

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Eddie;2763967 said:
That's all nice and good, but the buffoon still can't run a franchise.

Thank you Jerry Jones ... please step out of the way.

Why do posters keep asking Jerry to step aside when they know it wont happen???


I hate to be so blunt about it, but its Jerry's team. He spent his own money to buy the team and he can run it however he sees fit. He can sign who he wants, he can trade who he wants, and he can draft who he wants.

Its Jerry's money and Jerry's team, he doesnt need permission to do JACK!!!
 

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Beast_from_East;2766014 said:
How the hell does Parcells keep getting lumped in with Jimmy???


Last time I checked, under the 4 seasons Parcells was here we did not even qualify for the freaking playoffs half the time. The 2 times we did make it to the playoffs, we were one-and-done.

So what the hell did Parcells do that was so great here??? As far as GM duties, Jerry said himself that he always has and always will have total control over the roster. So Parcells didnt even have player personnel authority (see Parcells wanting to take Spears and being overruled by Jerry and Ware was picked or see "the player" being signed when the whole world knew Parcells was against it).

And even if we give him credit for upgrading the roster, it is the results on the field that matter. Upgraded talent means JACK if you cant take care of business on the field. Wade said it takes 4 years to build a championship caliber team and after 4 years under Parcells we did not even have a freaking division championship to show for it.


Bottom line..........Jimmy won 3 rings and Parcells won JACK.


Tell me again Bach why you want Parcells running the team...........

Give me a break, Parcells turned one of the worst teams in football that had been ground down under ego Jerry and his puppeteers for years, into a multi-year playoff contender almost instantly. The team also essentially won a playoff game that Romo bobbled away. The 2007 team that went 13-3 was largely of his & his staff's making. Didn't like him as a game day coach, but he turned this team around, full stop.
 

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Beast_from_East;2766014 said:
How the hell does Parcells keep getting lumped in with Jimmy???


Last time I checked, under the 4 seasons Parcells was here we did not even qualify for the freaking playoffs half the time. The 2 times we did make it to the playoffs, we were one-and-done.

So what the hell did Parcells do that was so great here???

Tell me again Bach why you want Parcells running the team...........

No doubt Jimmy's tenure was far more successful than Parcells. But, do you recall the years we had prior to Parcells' arrival? Apparently not many remember 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 and then BP shows up and we have winning seasons 3 out of the next 4 years. So- that's why I mention him. He turned around the gigantic mess than Jerry created once Jimmy left and got the team back on track. Granted I'd love to have seen more success, but it sure as Hades beats 5-11 every year.
 

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Doomsay;2766041 said:
Give me a break, Parcells turned one of the worst teams in football that had been ground down under ego Jerry and his puppeteers for years, into a multi-year playoff contender almost instantly. The team also essentially won a playoff game that Romo bobbled away. The 2007 team that went 13-3 was largely of his & his staff's making. Didn't like him as a game day coach, but he turned this team around, full stop.

+1

(what he said)
 

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Bach;2766067 said:
No doubt Jimmy's tenure was far more successful than Parcells. But, do you recall the years we had prior to Parcells' arrival? Apparently not many remember 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 and then BP shows up and we have winning seasons 3 out of the next 4 years. So- that's why I mention him. He turned around the gigantic mess than Jerry created once Jimmy left and got the team back on track. Granted I'd love to have seen more success, but it sure as Hades beats 5-11 every year.
Yeah, everyone has forgotten Dave Campo. Uh huh, yeah that's it.

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Hostile;2766138 said:
Yeah, everyone has forgotten Dave Campo. Uh huh, yeah that's it.

Not everyone. But apparently some have if they can't see the turnaround that took place once BP arrived. I did have several issues with things he did while here but I also know he was the best thing to happen to this franchise since Jimmy left.


Yeah well, that goes without saying :eek::
 

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Beast_from_East;2766015 said:
Why do posters keep asking Jerry to step aside when they know it wont happen???

I hate to be so blunt about it, but its Jerry's team. He spent his own money to buy the team and he can run it however he sees fit. He can sign who he wants, he can trade who he wants, and he can draft who he wants.

Its Jerry's money and Jerry's team, he doesnt need permission to do JACK!!!

*this* has always been my point of contention. but if you say this, it means you LOVE jones as the GM to the haters. just because i hate people whining at jones all the time doesn't mean i approve or even like him as a GM.

he owns the team. he's going nowhere. the whining is about as useless as it can be, outside of venting.

some people just carry a lot of hate i suppose.
 

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Doomsay;2766041 said:
Give me a break, Parcells turned one of the worst teams in football that had been ground down under ego Jerry and his puppeteers for years, into a multi-year playoff contender almost instantly. The team also essentially won a playoff game that Romo bobbled away. The 2007 team that went 13-3 was largely of his & his staff's making. Didn't like him as a game day coach, but he turned this team around, full stop.

wow.

multi-year playoff contender. that never won a playoff game. and after his bledsoe run, i openly said parcells would never win a playoff game as our coach.

now we blame a loss on romo. last i checked it's a team sport, right? the team lost and our playoff contender still hasn't won a playoff game with or without parcells.

parcells did an amazing job with the team to be sure. but he took it as far as he could go. i'm glad he was our coach for awhile but i was also glad when he took his act with him. it simply amazes me people will call out jones' act while defending their favorite coaches who by all rights have an ego and "act" also.
 

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Bach;2766067 said:
No doubt Jimmy's tenure was far more successful than Parcells. But, do you recall the years we had prior to Parcells' arrival? Apparently not many remember 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 and then BP shows up and we have winning seasons 3 out of the next 4 years. So- that's why I mention him. He turned around the gigantic mess than Jerry created once Jimmy left and got the team back on track. Granted I'd love to have seen more success, but it sure as Hades beats 5-11 every year.


Oh so you were ok with 9-7 and no playoff wins when Bill was in charge? Good to know
 

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BigDFan5;2766374 said:
Oh so you were ok with 9-7 and no playoff wins when Bill was in charge? Good to know

Oh so you're ok with being illiterate?


Bach said:
Granted I'd love to have seen more success, but it sure as Hades beats 5-11 every year.
 

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Bach;2766192 said:
Not everyone. But apparently some have if they can't see the turnaround that took place once BP arrived. I did have several issues with things he did while here but I also know he was the best thing to happen to this franchise since Jimmy left.
Everyone sees the turnaround after Parcells arrived. Every living, breathing, synapses firing Cowboys fan. No one has praised Dave Campo on this forum or defended him in any way, shape, or form. No one longs for the Campo days. No one pines for 5-11 seasons. If we took it to a poll I guarantee you nearly 100% of those polled would prefer Parcells over Campo and the few who didn't would be peopel trying to be smart alecs or who simply just hate Parcells for whatever reason.

Long story short, we all get it. The drums are nice and all, but there's no need to beat it with the same repetitive thump every friggin' thread.

Bach said:
Yeah well, that goes without saying :eek::
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