CFZ This organization has one CORE problem with 5 letters

[Bobhaze]

What you have in Boldface is spot-on, Bob.

You've also presented the idea of taking what you saw on the field (embarrassing loss) and using that intel to help guide future decisions. Again, you captured what unfortunately will happen (they won't).

In 31 NFL cities, the GM is held accountable for winning and losing. Only in Dallas is the GM untouchable. Only in Dallas do we blame everyone but the man in charge.

 

[JW82]

28 years of crap can't be a coincidence.

 

[cowboyblue22]

The core problem has 5 letters: J-O-N-E-S. They are really good at making money. That’s it. They aren’t good at building championship rosters. Sure the QB is not great, the defense is undersized, we have an outdated offense, and a soft culture. But those problems were all caused by the real problem: The top of this organization.

This team needs a rebuild starting at the GM position. Having the same two guys making all the big decisions about this hasn’t worked for so long now just changing or adding to the player mix or changing HCs isn’t going to fix the core problem. Jerry Jones has hired a good player evaluator for the draft in Will McClay. Without McClay, this organization is a perennial 6-8 win team.

In fact, in my estimation here are the biggest problems and how to fix them:

• (Before I hear from everyone, I already recognize this won’t happen) Jerry needs to hire a real GM. The Jones FO has a fundamental very bad problem- they don’t realize THEY are the problem. They are surrounded by people that tell them what they want to hear. Until that changes, we will continue this nearly 3 decade cycle. They think they are really good and they aren’t. (Except how to make money) They think waaaaaaaay too highly of their own talent. Which is deadly in a league where other teams are led by men who‘s job depends on their success.
• It’s time to plan for a new QB- easier said than done, but this organization never seems to get serious about drafting a QB. Look at SF. They had just drafted their “franchise” QB in Trey Lance two years ago and still drafted Brock Purdy in round 7 and got lucky anyway. That never happens here because they don’t even try.
• This defense is undersized and cannot impose its will without a big lead. Parsons is a great talent but I’m not convinced this team knows how to use him properly. They can’t stop the run when they have to. If Parsons is neutralized, the defense is pedestrian.
• This offense is outdated and takes few chances- This isn’t the 90s or early 2000s. The “West Coast Offense” is not used much anymore because defenses have figured out how to stop it. It is in essence a very conservative offense that without any real deep threats is anemic.

This embarrassing loss could be used for good if the leaders of this org would allow it. (They won’t)

The rest of this season they should be way more aggressive, continue churning the roster and send the message that NO ONE is guaranteed anything. They won’t do that, but they should.

but so are the coaches and lots of the players and parsons is one of the trouble spots iwth his mouth

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Also, it's telling how frustrated the players on this team are. They need to make it clear to Jerry what their thoughts are. He needs to understand that he's cursing this team every game that Jimmy isn't inducted into the Ring.

 

[Bobhaze]

Also, it's telling how frustrated the players on this team are. They need to make it clear to Jerry what their thoughts are. He needs to understand that he's cursing this team every game that Jimmy isn't inducted into the Ring.

I hear you Russ but we all know the players can’t/won’t do that. JJ doesn’t want to hear that. He listens to some people, but they’re usually people that work for him and can’t speak the whole truth.

 

[slick325]

In 31 NFL cities, the GM is held accountable for winning and losing. Only in Dallas is the GM untouchable. Only in Dallas do we blame everyone but the man in charge.

Also unique to Dallas, the Owner's son and the Owner/GM having their own radio appearances each week. Both prior to the HC having an appearance.

 

[john van brocklin]

The core problem has 5 letters: J-O-N-E-S. They are really good at making money. That’s it. They aren’t good at building championship rosters. Sure the QB is not great, the defense is undersized, we have an outdated offense, and a soft culture. But those problems were all caused by the real problem: The top of this organization.

This team needs a rebuild starting at the GM position. Having the same two guys making all the big decisions about this hasn’t worked for so long now just changing or adding to the player mix or changing HCs isn’t going to fix the core problem. Jerry Jones has hired a good player evaluator for the draft in Will McClay. Without McClay, this organization is a perennial 6-8 win team.

In fact, in my estimation here are the biggest problems and how to fix them:

• (Before I hear from everyone, I already recognize this won’t happen) Jerry needs to hire a real GM. The Jones FO has a fundamental very bad problem- they don’t realize THEY are the problem. They are surrounded by people that tell them what they want to hear. Until that changes, we will continue this nearly 3 decade cycle. They think they are really good and they aren’t. (Except how to make money) They think waaaaaaaay too highly of their own talent. Which is deadly in a league where other teams are led by men who‘s job depends on their success.
• It’s time to plan for a new QB- easier said than done, but this organization never seems to get serious about drafting a QB. Look at SF. They had just drafted their “franchise” QB in Trey Lance two years ago and still drafted Brock Purdy in round 7 and got lucky anyway. That never happens here because they don’t even try.
• This defense is undersized and cannot impose its will without a big lead. Parsons is a great talent but I’m not convinced this team knows how to use him properly. They can’t stop the run when they have to. If Parsons is neutralized, the defense is pedestrian.
• This offense is outdated and takes few chances- This isn’t the 90s or early 2000s. The “West Coast Offense” is not used much anymore because defenses have figured out how to stop it. It is in essence a very conservative offense that without any real deep threats is anemic.

This embarrassing loss could be used for good if the leaders of this org would allow it. (They won’t)

The rest of this season they should be way more aggressive, continue churning the roster and send the message that NO ONE is guaranteed anything. They won’t do that, but they should.

Thanks Bob,
You've addressed these issues more eloquently than me in my thread.
It's nice to see others feel the same way.
Hopefully Stephen will be a better owner than Jerry.
That's really our only hope as Jerry appears set in his ways.

 

[IceStar-D7]

The only power we have is recognize that a new paint job on the Titanic doesn’t protect against the big iceberg we hit every season. Stop buying the hype. Buy RESULTS NOT HYPE.

I‘ve been guilty of buying into some of the hype. But I should have known all along that the only thing to buy when the Jones boys are in charge is RESULTS.

Don't go to Jerry's mansion this Halloween. When kids go there, they say "Trick No Treats" while ringing the doorbell....

 

[Diehardblues]

The only power we have is recognize that a new paint job on the Titanic doesn’t protect against the big iceberg we hit every season. Stop buying the hype. Buy RESULTS NOT HYPE.

I‘ve been guilty of buying into some of the hype. But I should have known all along that the only thing to buy when the Jones boys are in charge is RESULTS.

At least you admitted were guilty of buying into the hype which apparently is generating all of this tremendous emotional disappointment from this loss.

Unbelievable the reaction we are seeing. No wonder Jethro continues selling hope. How many times must this group of fans be sold a bogus product. I have no sympathy for them. They’ll be suckered again. They always are.

 

[Aven8]

Our only hope is that the 2nd Bozo talks the 1st Bozo into dumping Dak. He’s now done it with Dez, Ware, and JG just to name a few. Its time

 

[JoeKing]

Cowboys Nation is a fickle B. You loved the Jones name when Gilmore and Cooks were being brought in and we were dominating games. Even just last week when the Cowboys handed Belichick his worst defeat, the Jones name was being praised in the GM office. But now with one more loss, the Jones name is the "core problem".

 

[lukemartin79]

The core problem has 5 letters: J-O-N-E-S. They are really good at making money. That’s it. They aren’t good at building championship rosters. Sure the QB is not great, the defense is undersized, we have an outdated offense, and a soft culture. But those problems were all caused by the real problem: The top of this organization.

This team needs a rebuild starting at the GM position. Having the same two guys making all the big decisions about this hasn’t worked for so long now just changing or adding to the player mix or changing HCs isn’t going to fix the core problem. Jerry Jones has hired a good player evaluator for the draft in Will McClay. Without McClay, this organization is a perennial 6-8 win team.

In fact, in my estimation here are the biggest problems and how to fix them:

• (Before I hear from everyone, I already recognize this won’t happen) Jerry needs to hire a real GM. The Jones FO has a fundamental very bad problem- they don’t realize THEY are the problem. They are surrounded by people that tell them what they want to hear. Until that changes, we will continue this nearly 3 decade cycle. They think they are really good and they aren’t. (Except how to make money) They think waaaaaaaay too highly of their own talent. Which is deadly in a league where other teams are led by men who‘s job depends on their success.
• It’s time to plan for a new QB- easier said than done, but this organization never seems to get serious about drafting a QB. Look at SF. They had just drafted their “franchise” QB in Trey Lance two years ago and still drafted Brock Purdy in round 7 and got lucky anyway. That never happens here because they don’t even try.
• This defense is undersized and cannot impose its will without a big lead. Parsons is a great talent but I’m not convinced this team knows how to use him properly. They can’t stop the run when they have to. If Parsons is neutralized, the defense is pedestrian.
• This offense is outdated and takes few chances- This isn’t the 90s or early 2000s. The “West Coast Offense” is not used much anymore because defenses have figured out how to stop it. It is in essence a very conservative offense that without any real deep threats is anemic.

This embarrassing loss could be used for good if the leaders of this org would allow it. (They won’t)

The rest of this season they should be way more aggressive, continue churning the roster and send the message that NO ONE is guaranteed anything. They won’t do that, but they should.

When I first read your headline I thought J-E-R-R-Y , lol. I was thinking of the exact same person, just took a different route to get there. Watching the game and realizing how well put together that team is by John Lynch it was obvious the biggest difference. They have a real GM, and we have an owner playing GM. Huge difference really.

 

[DallasEast]

Leadership comes in all forms. In a professional team sport, leadership is not just a trait of the best players on a team or the head coach, etc. Leadership traits are observed, followed, adopted, resented, rejected, etc., from those with any authority. NFL front offices share in leading their franchise, whether onlookers do or do not think they do.

Dallas' front office has been atypical from a leadership perspective for nearly 30 years. It is not a passive form of leadership and never defects attention from itself. It is an extra ingredient constantly thrown into the team's stew that does not need it. Too many cooks in a kitchen is always too many cooks.

I really wish the greed tactic could be tested. I really do. Then the theory of Jones bending to the all-mighty dollar that he no longer needs could be finally proven true or false. Until that ever happens, I will defer to believing what definitively makes Jones tick is inside that Skeletor skull of his. Bashing and ridiculing his narcissism could be more successful in making him bend than simply hoping upon a star boycott of a man who is far richer outside of football than many people comprehend.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cowboys Nation is a fickle B. You loved the Jones name when Gilmore and Cooks were being brought in and we were dominating games. Even just last week when the Cowboys handed Belichick his worst defeat, the Jones name was being praised in the GM office. But now with one more loss, the Jones name is the "core problem".

When you’re right , you are right.

These fans should be angry at themselves for buying into the hype . I’d use much stronger words than fickle.

This is why our causal and wagon fan base around the country are the worst.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I hear you Russ but we all know the players can’t/won’t do that. JJ doesn’t want to hear that. He listens to some people, but they’re usually people that work for him and can’t speak the whole truth.

Yup, Jerry requires yes men.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yup, Jerry requires yes men.

He also requires gullible casual and wagon fans who buy into his hype lining up for his kool aid. And then cry out when their cup is empty. Lol

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

He also requires stupid casual and wagon fans who buy into his hype lining up for his kool aid. And they cry out when their cup is empty. Lol

Well, I mean, there's only so much we can do.........though I may go to the game next year when the Cowboys come to Cleveland just because it'll be another 8 years before they come back to Cleveland.

 

[nate dizzle]

The core problem has 5 letters: J-O-N-E-S. They are really good at making money. That’s it. They aren’t good at building championship rosters. Sure the QB is not great, the defense is undersized, we have an outdated offense, and a soft culture. But those problems were all caused by the real problem: The top of this organization.

This team needs a rebuild starting at the GM position. Having the same two guys making all the big decisions about this hasn’t worked for so long now just changing or adding to the player mix or changing HCs isn’t going to fix the core problem. Jerry Jones has hired a good player evaluator for the draft in Will McClay. Without McClay, this organization is a perennial 6-8 win team.

In fact, in my estimation here are the biggest problems and how to fix them:

• (Before I hear from everyone, I already recognize this won’t happen) Jerry needs to hire a real GM. The Jones FO has a fundamental very bad problem- they don’t realize THEY are the problem. They are surrounded by people that tell them what they want to hear. Until that changes, we will continue this nearly 3 decade cycle. They think they are really good and they aren’t. (Except how to make money) They think waaaaaaaay too highly of their own talent. Which is deadly in a league where other teams are led by men who‘s job depends on their success.
• It’s time to plan for a new QB- easier said than done, but this organization never seems to get serious about drafting a QB. Look at SF. They had just drafted their “franchise” QB in Trey Lance two years ago and still drafted Brock Purdy in round 7 and got lucky anyway. That never happens here because they don’t even try.
• This defense is undersized and cannot impose its will without a big lead. Parsons is a great talent but I’m not convinced this team knows how to use him properly. They can’t stop the run when they have to. If Parsons is neutralized, the defense is pedestrian.
• This offense is outdated and takes few chances- This isn’t the 90s or early 2000s. The “West Coast Offense” is not used much anymore because defenses have figured out how to stop it. It is in essence a very conservative offense that without any real deep threats is anemic.

This embarrassing loss could be used for good if the leaders of this org would allow it. (They won’t)

The rest of this season they should be way more aggressive, continue churning the roster and send the message that NO ONE is guaranteed anything. They won’t do that, but they should.

No disrespect intended Bob, but honestly, just pin this. It is literally brought up after every loss for the last 20 years. We are all very much aware that Jerry and Spaulding are the root problem. They're the ones writing the big checks to the guys they are more interested in being friends with than employers of.

 

[Plankton]

Also unique to Dallas, the Owner's son and the Owner/GM having their own radio appearances each week. Both prior to the HC having an appearance.

Distinct advantages, bro. The unique structure continues to pay dividends.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well, I mean, there's only so much we can do.........though I may go to the game next year when the Cowboys come to Cleveland just because it'll be another 8 years before they come back to Cleveland.

We can follow and root our team on with a more critical eye being suspect of the same ole rhetoric from our snake oil salesman refusing to buy in to hype until more proven evidence .

Enjoy the game . Cleveland a nice area. I dated a girl years ago from Bedford.