this Romo is what you all asked for.

[Maikeru-sama]

And yet he still had a fumble and an interception in the red zone.

Tony Romo is most likely the same players he was a year ago.

However, good coaching and accountability can fix it but Wade Phillips is the Head Coach.

 

[maxsports]

Tony Romo is an average at best QB. If you think Homgren is going to change him....... Why wuld you want another old retread for a coach?????
Romo gives this team little chance to win. And Garetts play calling is not making it a Romo friendly offense

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Hey man I know very well romo is not going anywhere. For that reason alone I want him to succeed and do well(besides the fact that he's a cowboy). But people are saying they saw a different romo today. One that is scared to make a mistake etc.., but I saw the same romo as I always see when has a bad game. Just romo having a bad game. No more no less. I am not saying I have given up on him, all I'm saying is nothing was unique about his bad play today. imo.

Agree. We all remember the good games and like to forget the bad ones. But think back 3 years ago to the Christmas Eve game I think it was against the Eagles. He was terrible in that game.

Very similar to the player we saw today.

 

[rkell87]

Hey man I know very well romo is not going anywhere. For that reason alone I want him to succeed and do well(besides the fact that he's a cowboy). But people are saying they saw a different romo today. One that is scared to make a mistake etc.., but I saw the same romo as I always see when has a bad game. Just romo having a bad game. No more no less. I am not saying I have given up on him, all I'm saying is nothing was unique about his bad play today. imo.

when was the last time you saw tony take 5 sacks? and when did you see it happen without him even trying to get out of the pocket? i saw a huge difference, he was scared to pull the trigger

 

[tyke1doe]

Actually, the two biggest plays of the day - which lost the game, IMO - were on Garrett.

Up 10-0, deep in your own territory. 3 and 14. Do you play it safe, call a draw and punt the ball and continue to play field position? Most smart coordinators would.

But of course we're talking about Dallas and Garrett here. So we drop back to pass and with our receivers getting no separation, the Broncos call a blitz. Romo gets hit, fumbles. Broncos recover. Then they march in for the touchdown. 10-7.

We have the ball inside the Broncos 20. Points are tough. Defenses are playing tough. Points are a premium in this game. So do we play it safe and just run the ball setting up for a field goal? No. This is Dallas and Garrett you're talking about.

Let's throw the ball. Maybe the receiver (Austin) is paying attention. Maybe he's not.

These are the Dallas Cowboys. The receiver isn't paying attention. Interception by one of the best corners in the NFL. No points.

You can blame this game all you want on Romo. But it is the COACH'S job and the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR'S job to sense the tempo of the game, understand the strategy of the game and call plays accordingly.

You didn't see the Broncos trying to take shots down the field until they absolutely had to. They remained basic until they had to, and then they took advantage of our defense because it was tired with all those three and outs.

This is a stupid team reflected by stupid coaching. The players aren't going to get any better until the coaching gets better. I would say owner, but that aint gonna happen. The owner is here to stay. The coaches aren't. And here's hoping that they're gone sooner rather than later.

 

[rkell87]

And yet he still had a fumble and an interception in the red zone.

Tony Romo is most likely the same players he was a year ago.

However, good coaching and accountability can fix it but Wade Phillips is the Head Coach.

but the fumble isnt the same kind we are used to seeing from him, he normally fumbles outside the pocket, because he isnt securing the ball, this one was standing in the pocket waiting for a guy to get open. and you can hardly blame romo for the int miles ran the wrong route and champ had to scoop it off the ground, it was just a good play.

 

[casmith07]

Good thread, rkell. With any luck, hopefully we're taking care of our normal 2-2 December slump early so we can turn it on in the rest of our games.

 

[rkell87]

Good thread, rkell. With any luck, hopefully we're taking care of our normal 2-2 December slump early so we can turn it on in the rest of our games.

one can only hope

 

[rkell87]

I agree, but really it's beginning to be plainly obvious that he's just not a good starting QB. Think back to his terrible play late in the season the past 3 years. He really is better suited to being a good backup QB. Come off the bench and make some plays. He just isn't consistent enough to be a starter.

But back to your point, I hate the careless play but he's playing like a guy that's overcoached now.

You will never coach him to be an Aikman like player. You gotta just let him be himself and try and work within that framework. Take the bad with the good.

I recall the Steelers OC saying that he decided to let Ben Rothlisberger be Ben and not try and make him a different QB than what he is. He said he tried to do that to another QB earlier in his career and he knows he ruined that QB and he wasn't going to make that same mistake with Ben.

i agree with everything but the not a starter part

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I recall the Steelers OC saying that he decided to let Ben Rothlisberger be Ben and not try and make him a different QB than what he is. He said he tried to do that to another QB earlier in his career and he knows he ruined that QB and he wasn't going to make that same mistake with Ben.

We can only hope Romo isn't Garrett's "another QB" years from now.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

this maybe to soon to post this with all the knee jerk reactions going on but...

romo had time to throw and took sacks instead of forcing a pass. this is what you all asked for is for him to stop making mistakes. personally i think he has got to where he is today making those mistakes and taking those chances. i want him to get back to playing like him self.

he has never been the best pocket passer, where he excels is getting out of the pocket, making plays with his legs, and having his receivers breaking off routes and finding the open zones. throwing ints come with that type of play but damn it so do TDs so I'm cool with the mistakes, Ive had all i can take of this scared guy second guessing himself and not pulling the trigger. he most likely got our #1WR a cracked rib because of it today.

most of you asked for this guy... and now i see you bashing him still, and saying he sucks no matter what. well he got to 29-13 one way and he got the 14th loss the way you asked him to play, so you might go look at yourself for thinking this is what you wanted.

get your swagger back tony and quit listening to the haters, play your game, you win way more than you lose when you do that. i for one will take your bad games if you keep giving me more good ones than bad. keep trying to fit throws in tight windows...you have been more successful at it than unsuccessful. bottom line I'll take the confident gunslinger back thank you.

true dat

you saw him when he improvised on fourth down and got the big play to Hurd, that is Romo.

When he tries to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he looks like he did yesterday.

Two games without a TD pass is not Tony.

 

[Dhragon]

this maybe to soon to post this with all the knee jerk reactions going on but...

romo had time to throw and took sacks instead of forcing a pass. this is what you all asked for is for him to stop making mistakes. personally i think he has got to where he is today making those mistakes and taking those chances. i want him to get back to playing like him self.

he has never been the best pocket passer, where he excels is getting out of the pocket, making plays with his legs, and having his receivers breaking off routes and finding the open zones. throwing ints come with that type of play but damn it so do TDs so I'm cool with the mistakes, Ive had all i can take of this scared guy second guessing himself and not pulling the trigger. he most likely got our #1WR a cracked rib because of it today.

most of you asked for this guy... and now i see you bashing him still, and saying he sucks no matter what. well he got to 29-13 one way and he got the 14th loss the way you asked him to play, so you might go look at yourself for thinking this is what you wanted.

get your swagger back tony and quit listening to the haters, play your game, you win way more than you lose when you do that. i for one will take your bad games if you keep giving me more good ones than bad. keep trying to fit throws in tight windows...you have been more successful at it than unsuccessful. bottom line I'll take the confident gunslinger back thank you.

I agree with you 100%.
If it would win us more games, then I'd be fine with our more conservative, no risk offense that STILL turns the ball over. But, since it is boring AND a losing strategy, I'd much rather lose an exciting 35-38 game than a boring 14-10 game where our offense is scared to throw it more than 15 yards.

I wish Tony would forget about trying to improve himself (learning out how to be Brady-like instead of himself last year and controlling his impulses to try and limit his turnovers this year) as he has regressed EVERY time he tries to change.

Alot of people here wanted the gameplan the Cowboys have done lately. Since they were proven NOT to be right that this way (granted a small sample only of games to be calling it a failure but ) I would hope that Tony and Garrett will realize that they are going to get lambasted either way they handle things if they lose, so they might as well do it their way.

Here's looking forward to a "hopefully" back to the recent past way of doing things.

 

[Hoofbite]

No, nobody asked for a wuss. We asked for a guy who wouldn't turn the ball over. Correct me if I am wrong, he turned the ball over 2 times yesterday. Nobody asked for that at all.

Romo is playing scared and I am scared he won't shake it. Nobody asked for him to play like he has for the last couple of weeks. Limiting turnovers is all anyone wanted.

 

[iceberg]

I tend to agree but you hope he can find something in the middle over the next several weeks.

There is no doubt in my mind he is trying really hard to not make mistakes and playing scared.

He is struggling right now to find his game because his game was slinging and now he is in noman's land.

the problem is, you don't change your style this much in a few weeks. the time to change how you've always done something, even longer. the problem to me is all the push/focus on romo and he's trying to be what everyone else says he should be.

and how many variations of romo are out there in the media now? EVERYONE has some input on how to help tony and while most mean well, at this point it's just more mental noise for romo to sift through.

romo needs to go back to playing a little on the edge and a little less structured and let him adlib a bit more because that's what he's good at.

 

[Dhragon]

Man we need a permanent romo excuses thread.

I'll have gotten what I asked for when he just wins consistently and plays well consistently from week to week. I don't remember asking for him to throw like crap.

And Tony I'm sure doesn't remember asking for you to be a *!@#. We don't always get what we ask for though.

ALL QBs have bad outings, even the mighty Brady and Manning and Brees. Heck, even our own Aikman and Staubach had bad games. So get over it before you get what you wish for and indeed get a consistent QB, but one consistently BAD.

 

[CowboysFan02]

No, nobody asked for a wuss. We asked for a guy who wouldn't turn the ball over. Correct me if I am wrong, he turned the ball over 2 times yesterday. Nobody asked for that at all.

Romo is playing scared and I am scared he won't shake it. Nobody asked for him to play like he has for the last couple of weeks. Limiting turnovers is all anyone wanted.

True, but when you ask someone to not be who they are(a gunslinger who takes chances in Romo's case) they are going to play tentative and be less effective. How funny would Carlin be if he was forced/coached/pressured into telling all PC jokes?



Romo is best out of the pocket, but how many bootlegs to Garrett ever call to take advantage of a moving pocket or to get Romo in his element? Garrett needs to take a page from the Steelers OC and let Romo be Romo and try to adjust his calls.

 

[Dhragon]

Hey man I know very well romo is not going anywhere. For that reason alone I want him to succeed and do well(besides the fact that he's a cowboy). But people are saying they saw a different romo today. One that is scared to make a mistake etc.., but I saw the same romo as I always see when has a bad game. Just romo having a bad game. No more no less. I am not saying I have given up on him, all I'm saying is nothing was unique about his bad play today. imo.

If you can't tell the difference between how he played last Sunday and his play last year or even better than in 2007 before he Brady-ized himself, than WOW. You need help.

 

[Ken]

Wow, don't you think Mike Nolan and Brian Dawkins KNOW that? of course they do. Jeez guys, think a little. He isn't allowed to get out of the pocket anymore. The Giants and Eagles have let everyone know how to contain him: he's a one trick pony that's been exposed. Keep him in the pocket and make him beat you : he can't because he's VERY inaccurate and he has NO feel for the pass rush so he's a turnover: that's right Turnover Tony, waiting to happen.....get use to it: been going on a long time..........

Man, Tony inaccurate?

He's always been VERY accurate. Only this year has this phenomenon occured.

No feel for the rush? Are you high? There are maybe 2 or 3 better qbs in the league at feeling the rush.

NEWSFLASH: When a qb gets blindsided, he will fumble. Also, when a wr runs the wrong route on a timing based route, it will usually result in an int.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

this maybe to soon to post this with all the knee jerk reactions going on but...

romo had time to throw and took sacks instead of forcing a pass. this is what you all asked for is for him to stop making mistakes. personally i think he has got to where he is today making those mistakes and taking those chances. i want him to get back to playing like him self.

he has never been the best pocket passer, where he excels is getting out of the pocket, making plays with his legs, and having his receivers breaking off routes and finding the open zones. throwing ints come with that type of play but damn it so do TDs so I'm cool with the mistakes, Ive had all i can take of this scared guy second guessing himself and not pulling the trigger. he most likely got our #1WR a cracked rib because of it today.

most of you asked for this guy... and now i see you bashing him still, and saying he sucks no matter what. well he got to 29-13 one way and he got the 14th loss the way you asked him to play, so you might go look at yourself for thinking this is what you wanted.

get your swagger back tony and quit listening to the haters, play your game, you win way more than you lose when you do that. i for one will take your bad games if you keep giving me more good ones than bad. keep trying to fit throws in tight windows...you have been more successful at it than unsuccessful. bottom line I'll take the confident gunslinger back thank you.

I didn't ask for this.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Actually, the two biggest plays of the day - which lost the game, IMO - were on Garrett.

Up 10-0, deep in your own territory. 3 and 14. Do you play it safe, call a draw and punt the ball and continue to play field position? Most smart coordinators would.

But of course we're talking about Dallas and Garrett here. So we drop back to pass and with our receivers getting no separation, the Broncos call a blitz. Romo gets hit, fumbles. Broncos recover. Then they march in for the touchdown. 10-7.

We have the ball inside the Broncos 20. Points are tough. Defenses are playing tough. Points are a premium in this game. So do we play it safe and just run the ball setting up for a field goal? No. This is Dallas and Garrett you're talking about.

Let's throw the ball. Maybe the receiver (Austin) is paying attention. Maybe he's not.

These are the Dallas Cowboys. The receiver isn't paying attention. Interception by one of the best corners in the NFL. No points.

You can blame this game all you want on Romo. But it is the COACH'S job and the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR'S job to sense the tempo of the game, understand the strategy of the game and call plays accordingly.

You didn't see the Broncos trying to take shots down the field until they absolutely had to. They remained basic until they had to, and then they took advantage of our defense because it was tired with all those three and outs.

This is a stupid team reflected by stupid coaching. The players aren't going to get any better until the coaching gets better. I would say owner, but that aint gonna happen. The owner is here to stay. The coaches aren't. And here's hoping that they're gone sooner rather than later.

I cant get on board with that at all.

We whined when Parcells was here for being too conservative, now we're wanting to play conservative again because aggressive isn't working?

Nope, not on board with that at all.

And the play that lost us the game was Marshall's TD which had nothing to do with Garrett. Wake up.