this Romo is what you all asked for.

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iceberg;2993324 said:
the problem is, you don't change your style this much in a few weeks. the time to change how you've always done something, even longer. the problem to me is all the push/focus on romo and he's trying to be what everyone else says he should be.

and how many variations of romo are out there in the media now? EVERYONE has some input on how to help tony and while most mean well, at this point it's just more mental noise for romo to sift through.

romo needs to go back to playing a little on the edge and a little less structured and let him adlib a bit more because that's what he's good at.

Exactly. The 4th down fling to Hurd says it all. We almost got bailed out by Romo magic again.
 

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NextGenBoys;2993453 said:
I cant get on board with that at all.

We whined when Parcells was here for being too conservative, now we're wanting to play conservative again because aggressive isn't working?

Nope, not on board with that at all.

And the play that lost us the game was Marshall's TD which had nothing to do with Garrett. Wake up.

I'd have to disagree. With you for the simple fact that on that play the motion Choice out of the back field leaving no one to block Romo. Sorry if everyone doesn't go to prevent on 3rd and longs like the doughboy. Stupid call to motion Choice out of the back field.
 

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NextGenBoys;2993460 said:
Exactly. The 4th down fling to Hurd says it all. We almost got bailed out by Romo magic again.

No we need consistent QB play at a high level that is worthy of his salary. Banking on Romo magic hasn't gotten us anywhere. They also haven't reigned in romo either. Romo needs to be able to make the throws and hit the WR when they're open. Not over throw them and make bad passes. But to expect "Romo magic" is a joke and you're just asking for failure.
 

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I tend to agree but you hope he can find something in the middle over the next several weeks.

There is no doubt in my mind he is trying really hard to not make mistakes and playing scared.

He is struggling right now to find his game because his game was slinging and now he is in noman's land.

I do not remember what throw it was, but did anyone else notice Romo almost jittery in whether to throw the ball or not. It didn't look like he was second guessing himself, it literally looked liked he was triple guessing himself.

I think it was early 4th quarter somewhere. To me, it looked at times like he was scared of throwing an interception so bad that it was really affecting his game.
 

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NEWSFLASH: When a qb gets blindsided, he will fumble. Also, when a wr runs the wrong route on a timing based route, it will usually result in an int.

Thank you.

I fault Jason Garrett for that fumble more than I do Romo. It's 3 and 14, you're up by 10, in a hostile environment and you're deep in your own territory. The Broncos haven't shown they can move the ball and, to this point, it's been a game of field position.

Keep them on their side of the 50. Don't get risky.

What does Jason Garrett do? Uh, 3 and 14, we can make it. Let's throw. :rolleyes:

That was the momentum swinger right there.

This was the Pittsburgh game all over again. Jason Garrett learns absolutely nothing.
 

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NextGenBoys;2993460 said:
Exactly. The 4th down fling to Hurd says it all. We almost got bailed out by Romo magic again.

And when he offers up those 4 INTs games, what will you guys be saying then?

It aint Romo. It's the coaching. Good coaches devise a game plan for their players and their quarterbacks and stick to it. But this regime has decided to put the game on Romo's shoulders. No wonder the guy is a basketcase out there.

Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden or Mike Holgrem can't get here soon enough. They have the personality to tame Romo and instill some discipline in this flabby, uninspired bunch.
 

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tyke1doe;2993507 said:
Thank you.

I fault Jason Garrett for that fumble more than I do Romo. It's 3 and 14, you're up by 10, in a hostile environment and you're deep in your own territory. The Broncos haven't shown they can move the ball and, to this point, it's been a game of field position.

Keep them on their side of the 50. Don't get risky.

What does Jason Garrett do? Uh, 3 and 14, we can make it. Let's throw. :rolleyes:

That was the momentum swinger right there.
:hammer:

As said earlier... Some of us were saying even before that series began that it's 10-0, we're almost through the end of the first half, they haven't moved the ball at all, they have no momentum... So there's nothing wrong with playing conservative and punting. But the one thing you can't do is turn the ball over deep in your own territory and give them points and momentum.

And that's exactly what happened.
 

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more terrible spin.

noone wants an inaccurate dummy as QB.

plus most sensible fans wanted Troy's Waterboy to CURB THE OVERZEALOUS PASSING and to control the clock & game with our RBs & short passes to RBs.

avoiding 2nd/3rd long and more stupid penalties they help create.



rkell87;2989866 said:
this maybe to soon to post this with all the knee jerk reactions going on but...

romo had time to throw and took sacks instead of forcing a pass. this is what you all asked for is for him to stop making mistakes. personally i think he has got to where he is today making those mistakes and taking those chances. i want him to get back to playing like him self.

he has never been the best pocket passer, where he excels is getting out of the pocket, making plays with his legs, and having his receivers breaking off routes and finding the open zones. throwing ints come with that type of play but damn it so do TDs so I'm cool with the mistakes, Ive had all i can take of this scared guy second guessing himself and not pulling the trigger. he most likely got our #1WR a cracked rib because of it today.

most of you asked for this guy... and now i see you bashing him still, and saying he sucks no matter what. well he got to 29-13 one way and he got the 14th loss the way you asked him to play, so you might go look at yourself for thinking this is what you wanted.

get your swagger back tony and quit listening to the haters, play your game, you win way more than you lose when you do that. i for one will take your bad games if you keep giving me more good ones than bad. keep trying to fit throws in tight windows...you have been more successful at it than unsuccessful. bottom line I'll take the confident gunslinger back thank you.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2993515 said:
:hammer:

As said earlier... Some of us were saying even before that series began that it's 10-0, we're almost through the end of the first half, they haven't moved the ball at all, they have no momentum... So there's nothing wrong with playing conservative and punting. But the one thing you can't do is turn the ball over deep in your own territory and give them points and momentum.

And that's exactly what happened.

I don't want to be a Monday Morning Quarterback, but most sensible football observers knew that. How is it that our crew doesn't?

That's what mystifies me. It's the same thing over and over and over again.

We just finish gashing the Giants for huge yards on the left side of our offensive line. We have a 24-20 lead. The Giants go three and out.

We're on the Giants side of the 50. Let's run the ball, take time off the clock. Make the Giants defense even more tired. But do we do that? NNnoooo! This is Garrett ball.

Throw deep. INTERCEPTION! Giants go in to score.

It's so frustrating that we have these games in hand, and we defeat ourselves. That's the frustrating part. It would be different if we got beat 27-0. But this team has been in a position to win, and the coaching staff does everything it can to snatch defeat out of the hands of victory.

And they've been very successful doing so.
 

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NextGenBoys;2993460 said:
Exactly. The 4th down fling to Hurd says it all. We almost got bailed out by Romo magic again.

are you kidding? that play epitomized what is wrong with this team.

4th and goal at the 2 and we couldn't punch it in before that.
then we throw to hurd.
twice.

where the hell is witten or bennett? where is a WR who's got a couple of catches already this year? why for the LOVE OF GOD do we throw to hurd - twice - in that situation?

props to bailey - he shut it down and knocked it away both times. never should have gone to hurd.

that's big red.
 

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NextGenBoys;2993453 said:
I cant get on board with that at all.

We whined when Parcells was here for being too conservative, now we're wanting to play conservative again because aggressive isn't working?

Nope, not on board with that at all.

And the play that lost us the game was Marshall's TD which had nothing to do with Garrett. Wake up.

yeah it is funny, all game it was run the ball, run the ball, yet many of those same posters bemoaned playing not to lose instead of to win.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2993600 said:
yeah it is funny, all game it was run the ball, run the ball, yet many of those same posters bemoaned playing not to lose instead of to win.

What did the Marshall pass have to do with playing to win? :confused:

It should have never come down to the Marshall pass. We run the ball on 3 and 14, then we put it back to the Broncos, who at that time couldn't do anything on offense.

We run the ball or Austin runs the correct route and even if we don't convert, we'll looking at 13-0 at the half.

The Marshall play occurs and we're still up 13-7. We still control the ball. We still run time off the clock and we still punt, making the Broncos drive the length of the field to win. We then alter our coverage to take away anything deep.

The problem is that we don't fall script. We had a good script to run the ball. We weren't scoring points by the drive so why not take what you can get?

We need those three points or six points we gave away during the game. They could have been the difference.

So, NO, this wasn't a game where we should have been throwing all the time. It shouldn't have even come to that. The defense did what it had to do. Technically, without the fumble (which was more Garrett's fault than Romo's) the defense held the Broncos to 10 points. That should have been enough to win, especially a Mile High up and in a hostile environment.

This coaching staff doesn't know how to close out a game.
 

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I want him show it in big games, not keep saying how he is learning. Just do it!

In Dallas winning big games is what counts not stats and flash.
 

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It's hard for me to tell if Romo is being himself or not when he's got an OC who refuses to be patient.

A poster earlier questioned us running the ball when it's 2nd and 11. Well this is what Pittsburgh does. Why? Because they are patient and understands that this is a long game, you play good defense and you play to your strengths.

Our receiving core is very average, it's not our strength. I thought early on, Garrett did the right thing by trying to get some screen passes in, make a few 4 yard passes, just to cut the yardage on 3rd down as short as possible.

The problem was, Romo started missing on the short stuff, then Garrett lost his patience.

Our coaching staff (I'll say it again) has no "togetherness" about them.
 

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iceberg;2993580 said:
are you kidding? that play epitomized what is wrong with this team.

4th and goal at the 2 and we couldn't punch it in before that.
then we throw to hurd.
twice.

where the hell is witten or bennett? where is a WR who's got a couple of catches already this year? why for the LOVE OF GOD do we throw to hurd - twice - in that situation?

props to bailey - he shut it down and knocked it away both times. never should have gone to hurd.

that's big red.

that isnt what he was talking about.
he was talking about the long catch and run off the scramble that got us in position to score.


on a side note i wish that the open guy on that play was anybody but hurd. RW11, pcray,austin, and ogletree all have enough speed to score on that play. i think marty b might even be faster than hurd im not sure but im almost positive i could have run faster than him at that point unless the air is just wicked up there
 

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Ken;2993437 said:
Man, Tony inaccurate?

He's always been VERY accurate. Only this year has this phenomenon occured.

No feel for the rush? Are you high? There are maybe 2 or 3 better qbs in the league at feeling the rush.

NEWSFLASH: When a qb gets blindsided, he will fumble. Also, when a wr runs the wrong route on a timing based route, it will usually result in an int.

...NO !...this phenomenon started when he returned after the injury to his pinky finger last year...he's been off and on since...this guy has got another corner or two to turn...
 

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tyke1doe;2993536 said:
I don't want to be a Monday Morning Quarterback, but most sensible football observers knew that. How is it that our crew doesn't?

That's what mystifies me. It's the same thing over and over and over again.

We just finish gashing the Giants for huge yards on the left side of our offensive line. We have a 24-20 lead. The Giants go three and out.

We're on the Giants side of the 50. Let's run the ball, take time off the clock. Make the Giants defense even more tired. But do we do that? NNnoooo! This is Garrett ball.

Throw deep. INTERCEPTION! Giants go in to score.

It's so frustrating that we have these games in hand, and we defeat ourselves. That's the frustrating part. It would be different if we got beat 27-0. But this team has been in a position to win, and the coaching staff does everything it can to snatch defeat out of the hands of victory.

And they've been very successful doing so.

...you can fault Garrett for being aggressive and trying to put the Giants away but it falls on Romo to find the safety...he has to find the safety or he can't throw that pass...he did the exact same thing against Baltimore last year and Ed Reed got him...

...Garrett's stock is plummeting with each week he pulls more brain-dead playcalling...this team has no identity on offense right now...the defense seems to be coming around in the same way of years past...but the offense is dead in the water with Romo's tentative play...sunday reminded me of the Pittsburgh game last year, where he could'nt hit the broad side of a barn in the first half...
 

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newlander;2989982 said:
blah, blah, blah.... he can't because he's VERY inaccurate and he has NO feel for the pass rush so he's a turnover: that's right Turnover Tony, waiting to happen.....get use to it: been going on a long time..........
^^^^^^^^^^

this is why I hate I waste too much time in here with the above nonsense.
Romo is no good at feeling pressure? You must love Chad Hunchison too much to think he wears No. 9.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 

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leicafan;2995277 said:
^^^^^^^^^^

this is why I hate I waste too much time in here with the above nonsense.
Romo is no good at feeling pressure? You must love Chad Hunchison too much to think he wears No. 9.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I see you've been around for about 5 years.

Just think of all the time you could have wasted if you were posting.
 

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The reason Tony sucks is becuase teams are blanketing the recievers and teeing off in the pass rush. Dallas needs a reciever with speed who can catch anything thrown his way. Austin is looking mighty awful and I really wish Dallas would have take a 3rd rounder from NY in a trade. Dallas needs a speed receiver to stretch the field because right now teams are mugging the recievers because they don't fear the deep ball. I really wish Dallas would have take some speed recievers in this draft like Johny Knox, Mike Wallace, and Louis Murphy who were all low round picks that are really looking good.
 
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