This season is done; think next year

[bbgun]

Tank the season if you must, but beat the Skins one more time.

 

[peplaw06]

Im not going to change my handle, so you better get used to it.

If he thinks the season is a lost cause, I dont see whats the point in debating it any more with him, or even the point in him talking about something that is done and dusted.

I can accept different opinions, I cant accept someone complaining the season is over with 10 friggin games to play.

I got news for you... lots of people thought the season was over a lot earlier than this week. A lot of people think the season is over now... not that we're losing the rest of our games, but that playoffs is basically out of the question.

In fact if you go to the poll of our record, the majority of voters (57%) think that we're going to finish at 9-7 or below. 9-7 is probably not making the playoffs, so they think the season is over also. Another 37% think we'll go 10-6, which isn't guaranteed a playoff spot. A whopping 6% think we'll be 11-5 or higher which would basically guarantee us a spot. Like it or not, most people realize that Romo means no playoffs... thus the season for all intents and purposes is over in their minds.

 

[wileedog]

Jimmy Johnson would be my ideal coach and I could see that happening.

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I don't want Jimmy back.

He flopped at Miami, he's been out of the game for a while, and I don't think he would have the dedication anymore that it would take. This team as constructed is the complete opposite of everything he had success with, and we would have to basically start over from scratch.

Stick with the fishing and broadcasting Jimmy.

 

[Mansta54]

This season is not over by any means....Romo = Hope

 

[theogt]

I got news for you... lots of people thought the season was over a lot earlier than this week. A lot of people think the season is over now... not that we're losing the rest of our games, but that playoffs is basically out of the question.

In fact if you go to the poll of our record, the majority of voters (57%) think that we're going to finish at 9-7 or below. 9-7 is probably not making the playoffs, so they think the season is over also. Another 37% think we'll go 10-6, which isn't guaranteed a playoff spot. A whopping 6% think we'll be 11-5 or higher which would basically guarantee us a spot. Like it or not, most people realize that Romo means no playoffs... thus the season for all intents and purposes is over in their minds.

Why is that? Romo coming in didn't mark that the season was over. He could have come in at 2-2 after the Philadephia game. I'm sure Parcells wishes he would have made the switch at that point. Parcells isn't going to Romo because the season is over. He's going to Romo in order to win games and save the season. He said as much today.

Oh, and 43% believe we'll be going 10-6 or better. I'd say that's within this unscientific poll's margin of error for Cowboys' fans.

 

[Jimz31]

I have a feeling that he is more ready than alot of people are thinking.

 

[LD Fan]

They are not that different philosophically. They both stress the running game first. Both of them come from defensive backgrounds. I think the difference is Jimmy believes in QB's and would do more to get a top notch QB behind center rather than trying the bus driver approach.

Your first rationale post in this thread. I've got news for you though, Jimmy isn't the coach to take this team to the SB. He's basically Parcells with fluffier hair. He's great at assembling talent but marginal at coaching them. Same as Parcells.

 

[LD Fan]

The season isn't over.

The O-line IS a mess.

Our QB situation is not a mess. We do need a new backup next year.

Jimmy Johnson will NOT be the next HC of the Cowboys.

Hopefully the next HC (asst. HC now or otherwise) will be agressing on both sides of the ball.

Right on every point.

 

[LD Fan]

Wonder how long you were whining about TO after he was signed? I'd posit you're still whining by virtue of your handle. There's room enough on this board for healthy debate and disagreements. Just cause he doesn't agree with you doesn't mean he should stop posting. I guess it'd be great if every poster here mindlessly accepted everything you posted as true and always agreed with you.

Your posts are such a beating.

Have you been drinking before you posted this?

 

[LD Fan]

I got news for you... lots of people thought the season was over a lot earlier than this week. A lot of people think the season is over now... not that we're losing the rest of our games, but that playoffs is basically out of the question.

In fact if you go to the poll of our record, the majority of voters (57%) think that we're going to finish at 9-7 or below. 9-7 is probably not making the playoffs, so they think the season is over also. Another 37% think we'll go 10-6, which isn't guaranteed a playoff spot. A whopping 6% think we'll be 11-5 or higher which would basically guarantee us a spot. Like it or not, most people realize that Romo means no playoffs... thus the season for all intents and purposes is over in their minds.

And a lot of people think Elvis is alive. So there's a lot of dumb people in the world. We may end up 10-6, we mend up 6-10, you don't know and either do I. You just don't know what you don't know.

 

[peplaw06]

Why is that? Romo coming in didn't mark that the season was over. He could have come in at 2-2 after the Philadephia game. I'm sure Parcells wishes he would have made the switch at that point. Parcells isn't going to Romo because the season is over. He's going to Romo in order to win games and save the season. He said as much today.

Oh, and 43% believe we'll be going 10-6 or better. I'd say that's within this unscientific poll's margin of error for Cowboys' fans.

I'm not saying that all the people who voted for 9-7 or worse voted that way BECAUSE Romo is starting. You can't tell because the poll was started after the announcement. What you can tell is 57% of people think that the season is over. Whether they believed that with Bledsoe or with Romo isn't really relevant anyway; all you're seeing in the poll is the end result.

Parcells may have "said" he's trying to save the season, but what else is he gonna say? You think he's going to say, "yeah I think we're just trying to see what we got in Romo, we really don't think he can make us competitive vis a vis the playoffs"? In fact, he didn't even want to talk about the playoffs, he told the reporters to get that out of their head.

As for the 43% who voted for 10-6 or better... That's still a 14% point difference. That's a pretty big margin of error to be touting there. And if it's unscientific, it's probably more skewed towards Romo... ie more people on a Cowboys message board are going to think Romo can get us to the playoffs than outside a message board. Most people on here have seen him play and heard a lot about him. Outside this board, most people either have seen him play one half or not at all. They're not going to think a brand new starter is going to be able to go 7-3 over 10 games.

And 10-6 doesn't even guarantee us a playoff spot. There's a chance 10-6 won't be good enough. If the poll said "will we make the playoffs with Romo," it would probably add around 3%... 60-40. Not good odds.

 

[peplaw06]

Have you been drinking before you posted this?

I don't know why you asked this, but no... I wish.

And a lot of people think Elvis is alive. So there's a lot of dumb people in the world. We may end up 10-6, we mend up 6-10, you don't know and either do I. You just don't know what you don't know.

Uhhh okay... did you read what I was responding to, or are you just looking for an argument?

None of us know what's going to happen in the future, that's the nature of these types of discussions. But just because we don't know, doesn't mean that we shouldn't discuss it. JSNTTO said he "can't accept people thinking the season is over." Well people are gonna think that, and people do. If you can't accept that, that's your deal, but we can still discuss it. Especially when 60% of the people basically think that.

 

[theogt]

I'm not saying that all the people who voted for 9-7 or worse voted that way BECAUSE Romo is starting. You can't tell because the poll was started after the announcement. What you can tell is 57% of people think that the season is over. Whether they believed that with Bledsoe or with Romo isn't really relevant anyway; all you're seeing in the poll is the end result.

Parcells may have "said" he's trying to save the season, but what else is he gonna say? You think he's going to say, "yeah I think we're just trying to see what we got in Romo, we really don't think he can make us competitive vis a vis the playoffs"? In fact, he didn't even want to talk about the playoffs, he told the reporters to get that out of their head.

As for the 43% who voted for 10-6 or better... That's still a 14% point difference. That's a pretty big margin of error to be touting there. And if it's unscientific, it's probably more skewed towards Romo... ie more people on a Cowboys message board are going to think Romo can get us to the playoffs than outside a message board. Most people on here have seen him play and heard a lot about him. Outside this board, most people either have seen him play one half or not at all. They're not going to think a brand new starter is going to be able to go 7-3 over 10 games.

And 10-6 doesn't even guarantee us a playoff spot. There's a chance 10-6 won't be good enough. If the poll said "will we make the playoffs with Romo," it would probably add around 3%... 60-40. Not good odds.

Well, you said that people think Romo means the end of the season. You may have mispoken, but I was just responding to that. Sure Parcells is going to back his QB now, but he was very adament about thinking Romo gives us the better chance to win now. When asked if this was a building for next year move he replied that that "couldn't be further from the truth."

Oh, and that's only a 7 point swing -- not a 14 point swing. Seven points one way and it's 50-50. It's well within any conceivable margin of error.

 

[peplaw06]

Parcells was very adament about thinking Romo gives us the better chance to win now. When asked if this was a building for next year move he replied that that "couldn't be further from the truth."

Point remains... what else is he going to say?

Oh, and that's only a 7 point swing -- not a 14 point swing. Seven points one way and it's 50-50. It's well within any conceivable margin of error.

7 point swing, but still a 14 point margin. Most margins of error in polls are between 3-5, not enough to swing you here. And a margin of error is more the larger the sample size is. Smaller sample sizes typically mean smaller margin of error. And like I said, if anything it's skewed TOWARDS Romo in this case.

 

[theogt]

Point remains... what else is he going to say?

7 point swing, but still a 14 point margin. Most margins of error in polls are between 3-5, not enough to swing you here. And a margin of error is more the larger the sample size is. Smaller sample sizes typically mean smaller margin of error. And like I said, if anything it's skewed TOWARDS Romo in this case.

Say a poll's results are 50-50 with a margin of +/- 3. That would mean that 47-53 is within the margin. Get it? This unscientific poll would no doubt have a margin of error much greater than +/- 7.

How is it skewed towards Romo? I don't get that.

Oh, and smaller sample sizes mean larger margins of error.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'll reserve my judgement on this season after December comes around. The Cowboys chances of making the playoffs right now at 3-3 possibly heading towards a 3-4 record are about 50-50, so you never know!

 

[peplaw06]

Say a poll's results are 50-50 with a margin of +/- 3. That would mean that 47-53 is within the margin. Get it? This unscientific poll would no doubt have a margin of error much greater than +/- 7.

How is it skewed towards Romo? I don't get that.

Oh, and smaller sample sizes mean larger margins of error.

I understand the math behind margins of error. I just don't see it being that big on an internet poll. There's nothing misleading about the poll. It's not ambiguous. It's a straighforward poll. I don't see how it's unscientific.

You're right about the smaller sample sizes meaning larger margins of error, my mistake on that one.

And IMO it would be skewed towards Romo... or towards a playoff record, because these are all Cowboys fans. If anything I'd think more people on here are less willing to give up on the season. Still apparently they're reserved to not having a playoff record anyway.

IOW, it would be like me doing a poll on the approval of Republican politicians and asking only registered Republican voters. Skewed results.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

This season is done. Neither Romo or Bledsoe is the answer. And the reality is that Parcells could be gone if we don't make the playoffs this year. And if we do make the playoffs, we aren't going very far.

Our offensive line is so horrible that neither Qb is going to progress much. Let's face it, we have lost to every respectable team we have faced this year aside from the Commanders and then again the Redskis aren't that great.

I'm not saying this to put peoples' spirits down but we have to face reality. Our offensive line needs a lot of work both in regards to coaching and talent. That's not going to be fixed this season. And our QB situation is a mess. Romo may be more mobile than Bledsoe but he is also far more inexperienced and he isn't exactly the calm presence in the pocket that we are seeking. If he turns into anything, it's going to be next season and not this one. Also, I agree that he should be given a chance to start over Bledsoe so my issue doesn't lay there.

But I'm already thinking of Parcells replacement next season. I'm grateful to Parcells in many ways and our defense is amazing due to him. I don't think he will be fired but I think he will quit on his own due to his age and the rest he probably desires. Jimmy Johnson would be my ideal coach and I could see that happening. However, I think a successful and well proven assistant coach could come here and build on Parcell's success. What do you think?

10 games to go and the division is tight. We got as good a chance as any team in NFC East.

 

[theogt]

I understand the math behind margins of error. I just don't see it being that big on an internet poll. There's nothing misleading about the poll. It's not ambiguous. It's a straighforward poll. I don't see how it's unscientific.

You're right about the smaller sample sizes meaning larger margins of error, my mistake on that one.

And IMO it would be skewed towards Romo... or towards a playoff record, because these are all Cowboys fans. If anything I'd think more people on here are less willing to give up on the season. Still apparently they're reserved to not having a playoff record anyway.

It's incredibly uncientific if you're attempting to guage Cowboys fans as a whole for all sorts of reasons that I don't really care to dive into now. If you're trying to guage Cowboys Zone Cowboys fans, it's probably a pretty good indication.

I see what you're saying now about being skewed towards playoffs because the participants are biased. The original question, though, was what Cowboys fans thought and all Cowboys fans are going to be a bit biased. I was thinking however, that it's skewed against Romo's favor because we're 3-3 at this point and about to go 3 games on the road. If he had been put in at 2-2, the results would likely be drastically different.

You still haven't explained why you said originally that this is a good indication that people think Romo is the end of the season.

 

[Beast_from_East]

This season is done. Neither Romo or Bledsoe is the answer. And the reality is that Parcells could be gone if we don't make the playoffs this year. And if we do make the playoffs, we aren't going very far.

Our offensive line is so horrible that neither Qb is going to progress much. Let's face it, we have lost to every respectable team we have faced this year aside from the Commanders and then again the Redskis aren't that great.

I'm not saying this to put peoples' spirits down but we have to face reality. Our offensive line needs a lot of work both in regards to coaching and talent. That's not going to be fixed this season. And our QB situation is a mess. Romo may be more mobile than Bledsoe but he is also far more inexperienced and he isn't exactly the calm presence in the pocket that we are seeking. If he turns into anything, it's going to be next season and not this one. Also, I agree that he should be given a chance to start over Bledsoe so my issue doesn't lay there.

But I'm already thinking of Parcells replacement next season. I'm grateful to Parcells in many ways and our defense is amazing due to him. I don't think he will be fired but I think he will quit on his own due to his age and the rest he probably desires. Jimmy Johnson would be my ideal coach and I could see that happening. However, I think a successful and well proven assistant coach could come here and build on Parcell's success. What do you think?

We are 1 game back with 10 to play and the season is over

WOW....I bet you punch the reset button when trailing by 3 at half on Madden:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: