This so called "Timeout" Fad

[Hostile]

Think of it this way; part of the fun of football is seeing the outcome of a game decided by a last second kick. We all get ready for it and we know this is the final play. There is a lot of drama to that and it makes the game interesting.

Now you are taking that away because the next time a kick looks good and everyone celebrates, you will find a last second timeout was called right before the kick. It's like the Boy Who Cries Wolf. The next time I see that happen, I'm going to be somewhat reserved and suspicious because I will question if a coach pulled that tactic. Sorry but that is taking away a major element of the game; the last second kick

There wasn't a last second kick tonight?

I could have sworn that is how we won. You sure? It was taken from us? How'd we win then?

 

[mr.jameswoods]

There wasn't a last second kick tonight?

I could have sworn that is how we won. You sure? It was taken from us? How'd we win then?

Yes, after we made the first one. What if we missed the second one. Would you be feeling the same way. I doubt it

 

[Hostile]

Yes, after we made the first one. What if we missed the second one. Would you be feeling the same way. I doubt it

Yes, I still would feel the same way. I already said that earlier in the thread.

It's long been a part of the game. Until the ball is snapped either team can call timeout if they have one.

If you make that a hard, fast rule then you have to do it for teams taking a timeout to prevent other things too.

You can cure a headache with a guillotine, but I don't think it's wise.

 

[mmohican29]

It's a good play by a coach. Is it cheap? A little bit yeah. But a coach's job it to give his team every opportunity it can to win a ballgame. I think the rule needs to go, but had Folk missed the kick I would not have blamed Jauron for calling the time out. He did his job in that circumstance plain and simple.

 

[Q_the_man]

I bet if Folk would have missed the FG, we probably never hear the timeout called

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You can cure a headache with a guillotine, but I don't think it's wise.

You stayed at a Holiday Inn last night didnt ya? :laugh2:

 

[dest]

It would be different if it wasn't for the fact that a NEW rule is what's perpetrating and allowing this fad. It's not like this is just the way it is and has always been.

Not letting the coach call the timeout in that situation would not prevent a player from doing so, but in that case, everyone on the field, in the stands, and at home sees it and realizes the play is dead. Letting the coach call the TO quietly in the ref's ear to purposely let the ball be snapped first is bad for the game. This will be changed.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Yes, I still would feel the same way. I already said that earlier in the thread.

It's long been a part of the game. Until the ball is snapped either team can call timeout if they have one.

If you make that a hard, fast rule then you have to do it for teams taking a timeout to prevent other things too.

You can cure a headache with a guillotine, but I don't think it's wise.

That's easy to say in hindsight that you would have been okay with it. We won the game and several fans are still upset with it. The reason for that is the integrity and spirit of the game was called into question. I don't fault Jauron for calling the play but I was irritated with the idea that such a move could be made.

Imagine the following...."the kick is good.....Cowboys win the game....oh wait, they are looking at replay to see if a timeout was called....was a timeout called...let's look at the coaches action....yes....no...yes...no a timeout was not called, Cowboys win the game...now go storm the field."

We make exceptions to the game all the time so there wouldn't be any requirement to make a timeout to prevent other things too.

 

[Hostile]

It's a good play by a coach. Is it cheap? A little bit yeah. But a coach's job it to give his team every opportunity it can to win a ballgame. I think the rule needs to go, but had Folk missed the kick I would not have blamed Jauron for calling the time out. He did his job in that circumstance plain and simple.

The thing that would have been funny is if he missed the 1st one, then because of the timeout he made the 2nd one and won it.

That will happen at some point. Part of the game.

 

[Hostile]

That's easy to say in hindsight that you would have been okay with it. We won the game and several fans are still upset with it. The reason for that is the integrity and spirit of the game was called into question.

Imagine the following...."the kick is good.....Cowboys win the game....oh wait, they are looking at replay to see if a timeout was called....was a timeout called...let's look at the coaches action....yes....no...yes...no a timeout was not called, Cowboys win the game...now go storm the field."

We make exceptions to the game all the time so there wouldn't be any requirement to make a timeout to prevent other things too.

Yes, it's easy to say in hindsight. It would be just as easy for me if it worked against us. It just doesn't bother me. I think it is part of the game. Always have. Win or lose, I'll say the same thing.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

The thing that would have been funny is if he missed the 1st one, then because of the timeout he made the 2nd one and won it.

That will happen at some point. Part of the game.

Human psychology says otherwise! The chances are much more likely that a player will miss the second kick. There is a reason coaches call timeouts to ice the kicker. A player is mentally prepared to make the first kick. A last second TO especially after he is under the impression he made the first kick is going to make it tough for him to make the second kick.

 

[EPL0c0]

the upstairs review: buzz vs whistle.

So Dallas gets the spike before the whistle, but they say that they were buzzed BEFORE the snap. Frankly, I think the burden should be on the officials to feel the buzz and blow the whistle to stop the play from occurring.

Yes, I say this b/c it hurt Dallas tonight, but it just seems fair. The review officials upstairs and the officials on the field need to be faster about it. In the last 2 minutes, they can review anything they want, why not immediately buzz on anything that looks even slightly close? Why wait to see at least 1 replay before deciding. Hope this rule changes...

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Yes, it's easy to say in hindsight. It would be just as easy for me if it worked against us. It just doesn't bother me. I think it is part of the game. Always have. Win or lose, I'll say the same thing.

For me, I just want to know that a last second field goal is a last second field goal so that I can celebrate or weep knowing that outcome was final. That is now diminished in my view because I will always hesitate and verify whether a timeout was called. As nice as it was to win tonight, it would have been more fulfilling to win on that first kick when we were screaming and hollering on that. Something was taken away with the second kick.

 

[sillycon]

I don't care if 40,000 people didn't understand it.

It's part of the game. Until the ball is snapped either team can call timeout. If you prevent that play, you have to prevent them all and that's just so much more wrong.

 

[sillycon]

For me, I just want to know that a last second field goal is a last second field goal so that I can celebrate or weep knowing that outcome was final. That is now diminished in my view because I will always hesitate and verify whether a timeout was called. As nice as it was to win tonight, it would have been more fulfilling to win on that first kick when we were screaming and hollering on that. Something was taken away with the second kick.

Well, I didn't feel that way. I whooped it up just as much as the 1st time. Timeouts are there to be used. As long as it's called before the snap, I'm fine with it. There's no hindsight with my opinion since I've talked this scenario out with my friends when it happened in previous games.... If Nick Folk missed the 2nd one, kudos to the Bills coach. (and then I would've been railing about Romo's awful play during the game...)

 

[nicodywill]

I must admit though, my first response after 2nd FG was *** Jauron (sp?) Take that mofo!!!!

That is exactly what I said and started yelling shove that time out you know where

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Well, I didn't feel that way. I whooped it up just as much as the 1st time. Timeouts are there to be used. As long as it's called before the snap, I'm fine with it. There's no hindsight with my opinion since I've talked this scenario out with my friends when it happened in previous games.... If Nick Folk missed the 2nd one, kudos to the Bills coach. (and then I would've been railing about Romo's awful play during the game...)

But timeouts were not designed to allow a referee to stand next to the head coach and coordinate a timeout to be called precisely at a given point unknown to the rest of the people in the stadium. The officials were never designed to abet one team.

 

[Rack]

It is part of the game.
And not a part that upsets me to the point where I believe it should be changed.

IMO, its like the guy gets a practice kick.

Same as Peyton's random gesturing and posturing, every freakin' play.

If he had missed the first one and made the second one no one here would be crying about it.

No different than icing a Free Throw shooter in basketball. It has been around for years. It just seems more prevalent this year.

It doesn't always work. Tonight it didn't.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Except that I've never seen a completed free throw in basketball taken back because a coach coordinated a last second TO just before the player released the ball

 

[Rack]

Except that I've never seen a completed free throw in basketball taken back because a coach coordinated a last second TO just before the player released the ball

Then you haven't watched much basketball. I've seen it plenty of times.