This team needs a Sproles/Bush type player

[dart]

well it would be nice to actual blockers

 

[Staubacher]

I don't see Danny Woodhead as anything close to Sproles.

When Sproles has the ball you can tell he's on the next level in terms of quickness and speed.

Woodhead appears to be more of a smart guy who extracts every last bit of ability that he has. He also has someone who knows what mismatches he can create and actually utilizes him. He didn't beat Bruce Carter on the wheel route because he was so fast. He beat Bruce because he sold the route into the flat to the point where Carter kind of pulled up. Then Woodhead turned it up and Bruce was left out of position.

This team has players who create mismatches. There aren't many DBs in the league (if any at all) who can guard Dez Bryant. Gavin Escobar was supposed to be a Redzone nightmare for defenses. I don't think he was even on the field when Williams fumbled. How is that possible? You actually spend resources to acquire players with unique skill sets and then you don't even use them in situations where they are most likely to pay dividends. That's just ridiculous.

I have said before that Cole Beasley can get open off the line quicker than any of the other WRs on the team. I don't think he was in there either.

This team has plenty of players already. What they don't have is someone who knows how to get the most out of what they have. That's why Dallas has been an average scoring team year after year. This offense doesn't utilize specific traits. Martellus Bennett probably had fewer Redzone looks in his 4 years in Dallas than he had in just his 1 season in New York.

Having Darren Sproles wouldn't make a bit of difference if the team can't figure out how to create opportunities for him.

Yup. Garrett has been given a who's who of veteran NFL coaches around him yet he is still an overmatched dunce vs most of the other HCs in the league

 

[big dog cowboy]

Woodhead appears to be more of a smart guy who extracts every last bit of ability that he has. He also has someone who knows what mismatches he can create and actually utilizes him.

Dead on. Reminds me of JWit.

 

[KB1122]

Nah, what I think we really need is a new backup tight end. It would be great if he were slow, weak, and couldn't block.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Murray is not a speed back and he does not make the defense shift and they rarely have to worry about him going to the house and that's why they play us the way they do. They are not afraid if Murray no safety in the box sorry it's just the way it is

I get what you're saying but this offense has enough weapons as it is and doesn't know what to do with them. A Sproles type would be buried on this team. We need to figure out what to do with the weapons we have now.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I get what you're saying but this offense has enough weapons as it is and doesn't know what to do with them. A Sproles type would be buried on this team. We need to figure out what to do with the weapons we have now.

I would hope that it would put Murray on the bench and actually for once put a dangerous back on the field. We haven't had that since Felix his rookie year and in 09 when he was explosive. Reggie Bush would've been a great pickup for this team because he can do it all. Look what he's done for that Lions offense and Matt Stafford. Even after losing Nate to he car accident. We need to get Dunbar in space and see if we can get the safeties to cheat the box because they are afraid of what this guy does in the flat and you will see this soft coverage open up.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I would hope that it would put Murray on the bench and actually for once put a dangerous back on the field. We haven't had that since Felix his rookie year and in 09 when he was explosive. Reggie Bush would've been a great pickup for this team because he can do it all. Look what he's done for that Lions offense and Matt Stafford. Even after losing Nate to he car accident. We need to get Dunbar in space and see if we can get the safeties to cheat the box because they are afraid of what this guy does in the flat and you will see this soft coverage open up.

Put Demarco on the bench? The guy who's 3rd in the LEAGUE in rushing?

 

[CowboyStar88]

Put Demarco on the bench? The guy who's 3rd in the LEAGUE in rushing?

Where else you gonna out him? 3rd in the league in rushing and I'm told we don't run enough that's why we are losing games? That's my point exactly we need a guy who can be a match up problem. They are not scared of Murray they don't drop a safety in the box because they are worried about Murray beating them. We need guys who strike fear in the open field.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Where else you gonna out him? 3rd in the league in rushing and I'm told we don't run enough that's why we are losing games? That's my point exactly we need a guy who can be a match up problem. They are not scared of Murray they don't drop a safety in the box because they are worried about Murray beating them. We need guys who strike fear in the open field.

So let me get this straight. You want the guy who has one less game and 100 less yards than Demarco over Demarco? That's insane. If no one fears Demarco than they must not fear Reggie either I guess.....

 

[CowboyStar88]

So let me get this straight. You want the guy who has one less game and 100 less yards than Demarco over Demarco? That's insane. If no one fears Demarco than they must not fear Reggie either I guess.....

You are confusing the fact that one is dangerous in the passing game and one isn't. I think you are missing that point Also Bush has missed time this year for an injury. Yes they do fear Reggie in the passing game he is a match up nightmare. Murray is not. I am not sure where you are getting confused here. You look at the raw #'s and assume that Murray is the one who should strike fear. The lions Offense dismantled the Bears vaunted Defense. He has changed how teams play the Lions offense. Why because they fear him coming out of the backfield. He is a dual threat. Murray isn't a make you miss speed guy in the open field or matched up on a LB or a safety. He doesn't have that quickness he is a long strider not a shifty back with burners. Look we have the 3rd ranked running back and people keep saying we need to run more and that will fix all. No we need to create match ups and fix the scheme problem in the passing game a speed shifty guy like Bush or Sproles or even a Rainey does that. Heck even Jamal Charles does it and CJ Spiller and Chris Johnson. Look at McCoy being able to run does not win. You put McCoy on this team and I guarantee you the team would look different because of his ability out of the backfield

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You are confusing the fact that one is dangerous in the passing game and one isn't. I think you are missing that point Also Bush has missed time this year for an injury. Yes they do fear Reggie in the passing game he is a match up nightmare. Murray is not. I am not sure where you are getting confused here. You look at the raw #'s and assume that Murray is the one who should strike fear. The lions Offense dismantled the Bears vaunted Defense. He has changed how teams play the Lions offense. Why because they fear him coming out of the backfield. He is a dual threat. Murray isn't a make you miss speed guy in the open field or matched up on a LB or a safety. He doesn't have that quickness he is a long strider not a shifty back with burners. Look we have the 3rd ranked running back and people keep saying we need to run more and that will fix all. No we need to create match ups and fix the scheme problem in the passing game a speed shifty guy like Bush or Sproles or even a Rainey does that. Heck even Jamal Charles does it and CJ Spiller and Chris Johnson. Look at McCoy being able to run does not win. You put McCoy on this team and I guarantee you the team would look different because of his ability out of the backfield

I'm not confused. Well I take that back. I am confused. Not to what your point is but to why you think this team needs a "Sproles type" when they currently have more than enough options and don't know what to do with them. Running back is fine. We don't need another one regardless of how "effective" he is in the passing game. We need better playcalling and plays. That's what we need.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I'm not confused. Well I take that back. I am confused. Not to what your point is but to why you think this team needs a "Sproles type" when they currently have more than enough options and don't know what to do with them. Running back is fine. We don't need another one regardless of how "effective" he is in the passing game. We need better playcalling and plays. That's what we need.

I agree with better play calls and plays no doubt. But I don't think slow lumbering players outside of Dez is going to get it done. I think Romo would exceed with a guy he can get matched up on a LB. What if you substituted those 2-4 yard passes to Witten with a guy like Sproles or Bush you think they would be more effective? You think they would create a missed tackle? Maybe forcing a safety to come down out of the box to keep contain? That's what I'm talking about. We don't have exposition for whatever the reason is. Williams is suppose to be a burner but we haven't seen it Dez is the most dynamic player we have. I look at Detroit and what a guy like bush has done for them. I can see what a guy like that would do for us. That is if we used him right.

 

[BAT]

I'm sorry but when you have weapons like Demarco, Dez, Miles and Witten...you shouldn't need a Sproles type. You have Dez Bryant for goodness sakes.

Calvin Johnson's not complaining about having Reggie Bush. Maybe because they are winning now in Detroit.

 

[Fredd]

my goodness, we have enough weapons on offense (more than most teams), we just improved the OLine to the point where they are pretty good...what's that leave? No scheme, no legit OC...this team is the biggest enigma I have witnessed in a long time (As far as NFL teams is concerned)

 

[IrishAnto]

that doesn't fumble*

At this point in time you’re labelling Dumbar a fumbler on a very small sample size.

I say give him a chance. If he gets 40-50 touches in the next 6-7 games and he fumbles 2 or more times then fair enough.

But if he doesn’t then I think we have a weapon and at the very least a change up from the other three backs on the roster.

 

[Fredd]

they keep dunbar, presumably to use him so use him...although, we drafted Escobar and haven't used him....

 

[panchucko]

We need a system/coach/coaches that can find a way to use the weapons we have now.
One that can adjust on the fly.

This offense is pretty vanilla and it doesn't seem to put fear into any defense.

Even if we had a bush, sproles or even shady, I don't think our system would use them

 

[Smith22]

Bottom line: This offense needs an identity. Enough of the 65%+ shotgun formation BS.

Romo needs to line up behind the center more often and the play action needs to become a real threat.

If Dez is getting doubled too often, move him around more.

Involve Dunbar a bit more. The added speed on the field would be nice.

Throw some freaking deep passes to keep the defense honest! Other than the Rams game, this offense has been all about 5-10 yard passing plays.

About the defense. I think they can and will improve. We are only 4 games into the transition from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

I think the more Church and Wilcox play, the better our secondary will become.

Assuming Ratliff comes back, I think he be a difference maker. He can penetrate the LOS quickly, and most importantly, he will provide us a better rotation along the DL.

My conerns on D:

Our lack of pass coverage from the linebackers is a bit concerning, specifically Carter, but I think they will figure it out.

Mo at corner. I know he is laying injured, but man, he just doesn't play like a top 10 corner. Heck, he isn't even playing like a 1st round corner. Maybe it is the scheme... Either way, he has to improve.

Ware. I love the guy, but we need him healthy. He clearly wan't himself Sunday and it cost us dearly. We need him 100%, especially with Spencer and Ratliff out.