This Was A Huge Loss For Garrett

[Beast_from_East]

In all likelihood, Garrett is going to have to post 4-4 or 5-3 record to keep his job. Anything less is just going to be a hard sell to the fans.


He is currently 2-1 and with the Colts next week, probably 2-2.


So, assuming we lose to the Colts, Garrett could be looking at needing to win 3 of his last 4 games to finsih his interium period with a winning record.



Roy Williams just costed Garrett a very, very, very valuable win today that he really, really, really needed. If we lose to the Colts and then probably lose to Philly as well, Garrett may come up 1 win short of having a winning record.


Roy Williams might have costed Garrett his job today (depending on how we finish the season). Bottom line is that if Garrett does not have a winning record as an interium HC, he is not going to be given an extension on the spot. He may still get the job, but there will be an extensive interview process. I personally like Garrett and I hope he gets the job, but I also realize that winning is the bottom line and if Garrett is 4-4 or worse, it is going to be a hard sell to the fans.

 

[Ren]

Wade's team would have just quit down 17-0 last night.


It's not just about wins and losses at this point it's about attitude and this team played hard. If anything Garrett made an even stronger case for HC last night then in previous weeks

 

[StevenOtero]

Roy Williams just costed Garrett a very, very, very valuable win today that he really, really, really needed.


Roy Williams might have costed Garrett his job today (depending on how we finish the season).

Drunk posting

 

[EPL0c0]

Drunk posting

get yourself a beer-abacus... it'll make sense LOL </sarcasm>

 

[Beast_from_East]

Drunk posting

So if Garrett ends his interium period at .500 or below, there is no question he is the next HC???


Seems pretty straight forward that if he comes up 1 game short of a winning record and that one win he needed was Roy fumbling away the game, then to say Roy might have costed Garrett his job is not really rocket science here.


Like I said, I like Garrett and I hope he gets the HC job full time, but I also realize that he is going to need 4 or 5 wins at a miniuim out of the last 8.


Now if you have some info that says the job is Garrett's no matter what the record is, I would love to hear it.

 

[noshame]

Cost him his job? Not a chance, that was one of the hardest fought games I've seen in the last 15 years.

If these guys had a TC under Garrett we'd be cruising through the schedule.


Yesterday sealed the job in my book.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Cost him his job? Not a chance, that was one of the hardest fought games I've seen in the last 15 years.

If these guys had a TC under Garrett we'd be cruising through the schedule.


Yesterday sealed the job in my book.

I agree that the team did not quit under Garrett and fought their guts out, but I also realize that if Garrett only wins 3 or 4 games out of 8, then he is not a lock to be the next HC.

I really dont see how you can say that Garrett "sealed the job" yesterday. What if we lose the next 5 games and Garrett ends his interium period at 2-6???

Is he still a lock at 2-6 or 3-5 ????

 

[CliffnDallas]

All narcotics and other medications used in this thread were prescribed by a doctor and used under adult supervision.

 

[rathalarge]

I like what he has done, and it should be noted how well young, energetic coaches are getting it done. Jerry let Payton get away because Parcells was still under contract, but nothing is in his way from keeping Garrett... except Jerry!!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It won't even depend on record. The team was 1-7 before Garrett took over. They're playing better football and coming up they're playing teams all better than them. So I don't get how this fanbase can judge Garrett's record when he's simpy playing better teams than he has.

And his team played very sloppy football today as did Sean Paytons. But Roy is gonna get this blame even though the fumble occurred 3 minutes left into the game and we put them on the 10.

 

[BubbleScreen]

If anything, Garrett's position is stronger today. Roy made the most visible gaffe, but Newman, Sensy, Ball, Columbo all had their moments. Garrett also made, in my view, a couple errors in 4th down decisions and accepting that penalty that led to the Saints getting a field goal when they were out of range on 4th down. But this team fights and makes opportunities for itself, rather than excuses. No need to change coaches based on turkey day.

 

[Beast_from_East]

It won't even depend on record. The team was 1-7 before Garrett took over. They're playing better football and coming up they're playing teams all better than them. So I don't get how this fanbase can judge Garrett's record when he's simpy playing better teams than he has.

And his team played very sloppy football today as did Sean Paytons. But Roy is gonna get this blame even though the fumble occurred 3 minutes left into the game and we put them on the 10.

Wins dont matter???

To say Garrett's job does not depend on the team's record is just not true in my opinion. Jerry said that he needed to see "tangible success" and to me that means wins.

You telling me that as long as the team plays hard and doesnt quit, that it doesnt matter if Garrett wins any games??? You telling me that Garrett can post a 3-5 record and as long as the team didnt get blown out that Garrett is a lock???

I dont see that, I really dont. There is no way in hell that Jerry can sell Garrett as the full time HC if he has a losing record during his interium period. I just dont see how Jerry can sell that, but we shall see.

 

[Bigtommyb]

In all likelihood, Garrett is going to have to post 4-4 or 5-3 record to keep his job. Anything less is just going to be a hard sell to the fans.


He is currently 2-1 and with the Colts next week, probably 2-2.


So, assuming we lose to the Colts, Garrett could be looking at needing to win 3 of his last 4 games to finsih his interium period with a winning record.



Roy Williams just costed Garrett a very, very, very valuable win today that he really, really, really needed. If we lose to the Colts and then probably lose to Philly as well, Garrett may come up 1 win short of having a winning record.
I think your in error by equating Garrett keeping his job with numerical wins. i'm proud of the way they played last night, this team under Wade would have quit. I didn't want Garrrett as HC, so i was one of the doubters. However, he has proven to me so far what he brings to this team. It hyas nothing to do with wins. Garrett will be back and i don't have a PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE I WAS PROUD LAST NIGHT. I know we should have one last night and they played great against the Defending champs. That is the barometer.

Roy Williams might have costed Garrett his job today (depending on how we finish the season). Bottom line is that if Garrett does not have a winning record as an interium HC, he is not going to be given an extension on the spot. He may still get the job, but there will be an extensive interview process. I personally like Garrett and I hope he gets the job, but I also realize that winning is the bottom line and if Garrett is 4-4 or worse, it is going to be a hard sell to the fans.

I think your in error by equating Garrett keeping his job with numerical wins. I'm proud of the way they played last night, this team under Wade would have quit. I didn't want Garrett as HC,so iw as one of the doubters. However, so far he has proven to me what he brings to this team. It has nothing to do with wins. Garrett will be back and i also want Ray Sherman back,how he works with Dez is wonderful.The kid needs somebody like that who Troy said" Has handled some Divas". I don't have a problem with him returning because I WAS PROUD LAST NIGHT. I know we should have won but we played great against the defending champs. I think that is the barometer.

 

[noshame]

I agree that the team did not quit under Garrett and fought their guts out, but I also realize that if Garrett only wins 3 or 4 games out of 8, then he is not a lock to be the next HC.

I really dont see how you can say that Garrett "sealed the job" yesterday. What if we lose the next 5 games and Garrett ends his interium period at 2-6???

Is he still a lock at 2-6 or 3-5 ????

The difference in culture JG has established in just a couple weeks is amazing. I mean really, how long has it been since you've seen defensive players coming out on the field to congradulate offensive guys. How about the 2 DB's jawing at each other, then slapping hands and going off the field together. Coaches actually coaching players non-stop on the sidelines, heck, players coaching players. What a difference from a bunch of zombies.

Most of all. Getting shell shocked and being down by 17, then coming back and taking the lead, aand if not for a horrible break actually beating the SB champs?

Did you see Jerry in his box, he was jacked, no, barrring a total melt down, JG is the HC.

All this with no Romo?

It's really not about wins at this point, it's about performance.

 

[superonyx]

Wins dont matter???

To say Garrett's job does not depend on the team's record is just not true in my opinion. Jerry said that he needed to see "tangible success" and to me that means wins.

You telling me that as long as the team plays hard and doesnt quit, that it doesnt matter if Garrett wins any games??? You telling me that Garrett can post a 3-5 record and as long as the team didnt get blown out that Garrett is a lock???

I dont see that, I really dont. There is no way in hell that Jerry can sell Garrett as the full time HC if he has a losing record during his interium period. I just dont see how Jerry can sell that, but we shall see.

If you want to take Jerry for his word with his tangible success then also take him for his word when he said tangible success isn't tied to wins and losses. Don't just take half to drive home your agenda or point. Also don't forget we are a team playing for nothing with a backup qb. That's hard for any coach to win with.

 

[birdwells1]

Wade's team would have just quit down 17-0 last night.


It's not just about wins and losses at this point it's about attitude and this team played hard. If anything Garrett made an even stronger case for HC last night then in previous weeks

So Wade is now our standard of measuring coaches? That's like people falling back on Quincy Carter and Hutchinson when measuring Romo.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

In all likelihood, Garrett is going to have to post 4-4 or 5-3 record to keep his job. Anything less is just going to be a hard sell to the fans.


He is currently 2-1 and with the Colts next week, probably 2-2.


So, assuming we lose to the Colts, Garrett could be looking at needing to win 3 of his last 4 games to finsih his interium period with a winning record.



Roy Williams just costed Garrett a very, very, very valuable win today that he really, really, really needed. If we lose to the Colts and then probably lose to Philly as well, Garrett may come up 1 win short of having a winning record.


Roy Williams might have costed Garrett his job today (depending on how we finish the season). Bottom line is that if Garrett does not have a winning record as an interium HC, he is not going to be given an extension on the spot. He may still get the job, but there will be an extensive interview process. I personally like Garrett and I hope he gets the job, but I also realize that winning is the bottom line and if Garrett is 4-4 or worse, it is going to be a hard sell to the fans.

Nope.

It's not the losing, it's how they lose.

I would just about guarantee you, that avoiding any ridiculous blowouts, that Garrett could win one more game and still be the Cowboy's head coach come next season.

I think Garrett's ALMOST a lock at this point.

So who's getting evaluated now?

The players and the rest of the coaching staff.

 

[Ren]

So Wade is now our standard of measuring coaches? That's like people falling back on Quincy Carter and Hutchinson when measuring Romo.

He's the only frame of reference for this team over the past few years.

I really don't see the relevance is comparing what Jason does with this team to what other coaches have done or is doing with other teams where there's a completely different dynamic and personalities.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Wins dont matter???

To say Garrett's job does not depend on the team's record is just not true in my opinion. Jerry said that he needed to see "tangible success" and to me that means wins.

You telling me that as long as the team plays hard and doesnt quit, that it doesnt matter if Garrett wins any games??? You telling me that Garrett can post a 3-5 record and as long as the team didnt get blown out that Garrett is a lock???

I dont see that, I really dont. There is no way in hell that Jerry can sell Garrett as the full time HC if he has a losing record during his interium period. I just dont see how Jerry can sell that, but we shall see.

So the Cowboys were the worst team in the league. We fire our head coach who was also our defensive coordinator and Jerry expects for them to actually be better? We didn't sign anyone. We didn't trade for anyone. We FIRED our head coach. I just don't see how you can judge Garrett on what his W/L record is because he has one of the worst teams in the league.

He should be judged on how he coaches this team. So far i've seen this team not beat themselves. I've seen them become smarter. I've seen them have heart. They lost today. But they resembled a football team out there. Even with Wade even in some of our wins I never felt we were a TEAM. We'd consistently beat ourselves with penalties. We'd consistently make turnovers. And you hate to be down 20-3 to begin with but if does happen you'd like to see your team compete and atleast get out of the hole.

Now if Jerry doesn't want to hire Garrett that's fine. But it shouldn't depend on W/L record. It should simply be is this team being coached well. And i'll never accept a moral victory but this is about as close as you'll get. We competed with the champs without our starting quarterback.

 

[realtick]

In all likelihood, Garrett is going to have to post 4-4 or 5-3 record to keep his job. Anything less is just going to be a hard sell to the fans.


He is currently 2-1 and with the Colts next week, probably 2-2.


So, assuming we lose to the Colts, Garrett could be looking at needing to win 3 of his last 4 games to finsih his interium period with a winning record.



Roy Williams just costed Garrett a very, very, very valuable win today that he really, really, really needed. If we lose to the Colts and then probably lose to Philly as well, Garrett may come up 1 win short of having a winning record.


Roy Williams might have costed Garrett his job today (depending on how we finish the season). Bottom line is that if Garrett does not have a winning record as an interium HC, he is not going to be given an extension on the spot. He may still get the job, but there will be an extensive interview process. I personally like Garrett and I hope he gets the job, but I also realize that winning is the bottom line and if Garrett is 4-4 or worse, it is going to be a hard sell to the fans.

I disagree.

The job is Garrett's to lose. Having watched Jerry operate for the past 20+ years, he's going to want continuity if possible. Keeping Garrett just makes too much sense.

As long as this team keeps playing hard and competing, something they failed to do numerous times under Wade, Garrett will likely keep his job.