CFZ This would make the Cowboys ROH fairer and more respectable

[DogFace]

Check out this article that lists how every team in the NFL selects their ROH members:
https://abc7news.com/sports/does-your-nfl-team-have-a-ring-of-honor-heres-how-it-works/13758264/#:~:text=How voting works:Season-ticket,a list of 13 nominees.

Almost every team in the league uses a committee.

Jerry needs some public pressure on this. I’d like this story to become a national story. What he’s done with Jimmy, regardless of how much Jimmy hurt his feelings, is absurd.

 

[DogFace]

Rings shouldn’t be a prerequisite. Do you really think hall of famers like Ware or eventually Zack Martin haven’t earned their spots up there?

Great point.

 

[Bobhaze]

the point is simple. Jerry Jones didn’t invent the Dallas Cowboys or the teams ring of honor. While the franchises are founded as business ventures , what makes them successful is not who buys them. The fan base makes the team. Without it , Jerry wouldn’t be where he is today. So in that regard, Jerry does have an obligation to us collectively. That is not the same as an individual being a jerk and demanding an audience.

Truth.

 

[Bobhaze]

Jerry needs some public pressure on this. I’d like this story to become a national story. What he’s done with Jimmy, regardless of how much Jimmy hurt his feelings, is absurd.

Here’s an ESPN article that details how every team does their own hall or ROH:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38339536/nfl-ring-honor-hall-fame-induction-all-32-teams

 

[rags747]

Jerry 100 Freaking Percent paid for the right to make all rules regarding the Cowboys. They are not a publicly held corporation but a small mom and pop run company. Want to appoint committees and other such nonsense then put up your own money and buy your own company. Quite simple to understand and yet some just don’t get it. No one tells you how to run your family hopefully, why do you insist on directing other peoples families. Work on yourself and do not worry about others. Everyone is different and We are not all in this together. Peace Out…

 

[xwalker]

Watching the Cowboys ROH become the personal play thing of Jerry Jones is very sad. Every Cowboys fan who has followed the team for decades knows Jimmy Johnson should be in the Cowboys ROH. Sadly, the pettiness of JJ is cheapening what should be a wonderful reflection of this great sports institution.

As it stands today, one vindictive 80 year old man is in the ONLY decider of who gets in the Cowboys ROH. That’s insane.
Here‘s a process I think would make the ROH fairer and more respectable:

• The team should appoint a select committee who will use a process to select members of the ROH.
  • Members of the committee would include every living member of the ROH, 3 current members of the current Cowboys team who have been with the team 5 or more years, a member of the front office, and 3 long time local sports writers who have covered the Cowboys for decades (Which is what the Pro Football HOF does)
• The ROH committee would meet once a year in the off-season to decide if anyone should be inducted.
• Induction into the ROH would require a 3/4 majority of the committee’s vote.
• No one would be eligible for the ROH until a minimum of five seasons has passed since their retirement.

The current “system” we have is ridiculous. Fans and the team’s former great players and coaches should not be subject to pettiness of one man to make this prestigious group.

Thoughts?

Just be happy that Jerry didn't leave the old RoH at Texas Stadium and start fresh with only players/coaches inducted that played/coached since 1989.

Jimmy does not care about the RoH. I'm not certain he would show up if he was inducted...

 

[xwalker]

Watching the Cowboys ROH become the personal play thing of Jerry Jones is very sad. Every Cowboys fan who has followed the team for decades knows Jimmy Johnson should be in the Cowboys ROH. Sadly, the pettiness of JJ is cheapening what should be a wonderful reflection of this great sports institution.

As it stands today, one vindictive 80 year old man is in the ONLY decider of who gets in the Cowboys ROH. That’s insane.
Here‘s a process I think would make the ROH fairer and more respectable:

• The team should appoint a select committee who will use a process to select members of the ROH.
  • Members of the committee would include every living member of the ROH, 3 current members of the current Cowboys team who have been with the team 5 or more years, a member of the front office, and 3 long time local sports writers who have covered the Cowboys for decades (Which is what the Pro Football HOF does)
• The ROH committee would meet once a year in the off-season to decide if anyone should be inducted.
• Induction into the ROH would require a 3/4 majority of the committee’s vote.
• No one would be eligible for the ROH until a minimum of five seasons has passed since their retirement.

The current “system” we have is ridiculous. Fans and the team’s former great players and coaches should not be subject to pettiness of one man to make this prestigious group.

Thoughts?

RoH and HoF are overrated.

Erik Williams was as important to the 3 nineties Super Bowl wins as any player.

His car wreck is the primary reason they didn't make it to the Super Bowl for the 94 season.

After the car wreck he was a shell of his former self but still made 1st Team All-Pro twice and 3 more Pro Bowls.

If Erik Williams is not in the RoH, then the RoH is meaningless to me.

 

[MajesticRey]

When you buy the Cowboys you can induct Jimmy.

 

[Bobhaze]

Jerry 100 Freaking Percent paid for the right to make all rules regarding the Cowboys. They are not a publicly held corporation but a small mom and pop run company. Want to appoint committees and other such nonsense then put up your own money and buy your own company. Quite simple to understand and yet some just don’t get it. No one tells you how to run your family hopefully, why do you insist on directing other peoples families. Work on yourself and do not worry about others. Everyone is different and We are not all in this together. Peace Out…

As stated several times in this thread, owning an NFL franchise is not like owning a “small family business”. When was the last time a “mom and pop” business got tax breaks and had local taxpayers assist in building their main place of business? (as in a stadium)

Do you know any small local family businesses that have local taxpayer elections be part of their business plan?

 

[CowboysDrew]

I agree. However, the vindictive 80 year old man who is the sole decider of who gets in, is also the sole decider of how it's chosen.

I don't see any public pressure changing him on this.

 

[Bobhaze]

RoH and HoF are overrated.

Erik Williams was as important to the 3 nineties Super Bowl wins as any player.

His car wreck is the primary reason they didn't make it to the Super Bowl for the 94 season.

After the car wreck he was a shell of his former self but still made 1st Team All-Pro twice and 3 more Pro Bowls.

If Erik Williams is not in the RoH, then the RoH is meaningless to me.

The purpose of a ROH or team HOF is usually twofold:

1. For the fans to keep the memories of the team’s greatest players alive for future generations to remember.
2. To assist in the building of a common pride among the fan base for their favorite team’s history and relevance.

IMO, Making the ROH solely based on one person’s personal opinion is not only outdated, it potentially makes the fan base feel disconnected to the team and its history. As it stands right now, one 80 year vindictive man decides who is really important to the team’s history.

X I liked your Erik Williams example as a guy who some fans like yourself value highly. If a committee were in place that included some guys that played with EW and valued his contributions to those great 90s teams, he could possibly be voted in. When one man decides, it excludes some good people simply because of one man’s feelings.

I mentioned earlier that Tex Schramm was petty too about not letting some guys in who deserved to simply because he had tough contract negotiations with them. Guys like Cornell Green, Harvey Martin, TooTall Jones to name a few.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

the point is simple. Jerry Jones didn’t invent the Dallas Cowboys or the teams ring of honor. While the franchises are founded as business ventures , what makes them successful is not who buys them. The fan base makes the team. Without it , Jerry wouldn’t be where he is today. So in that regard, Jerry does have an obligation to us collectively. That is not the same as an individual being a jerk and demanding an audience.

he owes us nothing

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

he owes us nothing

and he sure gives us nothing.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

His franchise license can be revoked. Not likely, but not totally impossible.

sure, if Goody wants to spend 200 million in legal fees to enforce such a move,

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

and he sure gives us nothing.

your choice to accept or not, you aren't forced to watch, nor support

 

[The Quest for Six]

Ring of Honor started to become a joke when Jerry put in Charles Haley.....ROH should be for long time great Cowboys, not hired guns who spent most of their career in San Fran.....

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

your choice to accept or not, you aren't forced to watch, nor support

My only enjoyment during these years is watching Jerry make a fool of himself so I am entertained. And Jerry knows he's a joke too otherwise Jimmy would have already been put in. He won't put him in until he does it on his own and it won't ever happen.

 

[rags747]

As stated several times in this thread, owning an NFL franchise is not like owning a “small family business”. When was the last time a “mom and pop” business got tax breaks and had local taxpayers assist in building their main place of business? (as in a stadium)

Do you know any small local family businesses that have local taxpayer elections be part of their business plan?

Getting deep into the weeds here. At the end of the day the Jones family owns the Cowboys with some small minority investors. That being the case he alone can make pretty much any decision he so chooses. By putting all of his chips on the table to purchase the Cowboys he alone should have the right to do as he wants. To me that is only fair whether we like it or not. Jimmy treated his boss pretty poorly his last two years, obviously Jerry has not forgotten and Jimmy never learned that you better be careful who you treat like crap and disrespect because you may meet them later on in life under different circumstances.

 

[charron]

Since when is it about fair?

 

[Diehardblues]

What’s worse about the current system is that Jones is going to start inducting guys who don’t even have rings.

The Cowboys begun the ROH inducting players without rings.

Winning championships isn’t only definition of greatness . Much like it’s not a prerequisite for the HOF.