Those touting Romo as savior to season

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I tend to think that with this organization, having short term success seems to end up being a bad thing for us shortly after. So, I have this weird hope that perhaps having short-term failure will end up being a good thing shortly after.

I feel that there's no reason for this organization to wait for Romo to get injured or slow down to a point where he's no longer a quality QB or simply cannot physically sustain a good season...then have a putrid record and being forced to draft a QB in the first round and then starting that QB right away and it being a coin flip of it working out.

I believe that QB's by and large are better off sitting out at least 1 season before they are ready to take over. And I don't see any reason why we should not and cannot do what the Packers did with drafting Aaron Rodgers. The Packers had their troubles on defense and could have thought that they needed to 'win now' with Favre's age. Instead, they didn't. They drafted Rodgers and 2 years later they went 13-3 with Favre at QB. Then Rodgers was ready and in his 5th season with the team (3rd as starter), he had won a Super Bowl and he has been on an upward climb ever since.

Maybe this organization will see that Romo could very well have his career ended at any time and that good QB's are not easy to find and you pretty much have to draft a 1st round talent if you want to find a good one. And I think Tony would be a good mentor.

Certainly, this is a team game...but it's much easier to find the parts that support the QB than it is to find the QB in itself.








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The offensive system is fine. They just need somebody competent to run it.

The Cowboys have to win the next 2 games to have a chance. Otherwise they will be too far back for Romo to save the season. At 4-5, there is still a chance in a weak division. At 3-6 or (gulp) 2-7, it's all over.
 

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Just my $0.02, but in all but the Patriots game, this team was competitive. In fact, in many of the games it looked like they were going to pull it out at the end, but just fell short. The biggest cause of falling short in nearly every single one of those games is absolutely PUTRID quarterback play. Barring something crazy, this team would most likely be 6-1, potentially 7-0 right now with a healthy Romo all season.
 
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I tend to think that with this organization, having short term success seems to end up being a bad thing for us shortly after. So, I have this weird hope that perhaps having short-term failure will end up being a good thing shortly after.

I feel that there's no reason for this organization to wait for Romo to get injured or slow down to a point where he's no longer a quality QB or simply cannot physically sustain a good season...then have a putrid record and being forced to draft a QB in the first round and then starting that QB right away and it being a coin flip of it working out.

I believe that QB's by and large are better off sitting out at least 1 season before they are ready to take over. And I don't see any reason why we should not and cannot do what the Packers did with drafting Aaron Rodgers. The Packers had their troubles on defense and could have thought that they needed to 'win now' with Favre's age. Instead, they didn't. They drafted Rodgers and 2 years later they went 13-3 with Favre at QB. Then Rodgers was ready and in his 5th season with the team (3rd as starter), he had won a Super Bowl and he has been on an upward climb ever since.

Maybe this organization will see that Romo could very well have his career ended at any time and that good QB's are not easy to find and you pretty much have to draft a 1st round talent if you want to find a good one. And I think Tony would be a good mentor.

Certainly, this is a team game...but it's much easier to find the parts that support the QB than it is to find the QB in itself.







YR

They need to draft a QB early in this upcoming draft. And then dump these old, re-tread backups. If the backup is going to be struggling, I'd rather it be a young up-and-comer and not some 30 plus year old guy with a noodle arm.
 

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People that think Brady would make this offense look better seriously overestimate this scheme and play calling. If you recall a kid named Danny Amendola....who could not even make this team...go on to have 90 yard catch seasons elsewhere (I think the Rams or Eagles) and has been effective in New England...I repeat....who could not MAKE this team...or Martellus Bennet....who could not bust a grape here...or Fasano etc...Our approach to offense and the passing game is not something Tom Brady would want any part of.

You take Bradys same weapons...and put them in Dallas....and play the game the way we do...and they would struggle as well.

There's really no way to prove this.
 

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Just my $0.02, but in all but the Patriots game, this team was competitive. In fact, in many of the games it looked like they were going to pull it out at the end, but just fell short. The biggest cause of falling short in nearly every single one of those games is absolutely PUTRID quarterback play. Barring something crazy, this team would most likely be 6-1, potentially 7-0 right now with a healthy Romo all season.

I agree, but Tony is not the QB right now, and Garrett and company don't seem to realize that our current QBs can't operate Tony's offense as Tony does. One has the arm to do it, but is scared to throw beyond 5 yards, the other is willing to make the throws, but doesn't have the arm. You would think that Garrett and company would come up with a simplified offense with crossing patterns and passing in the middle of the field, where the receivers can catch the ball on the run. Instead Garrett expects the current QBs to be able to run Tony's offense, throwing outside the numbers and up the field.

We have been in every game, and I really believe that one more first down in a couple of those drives in the second half wins a couple of those games. But when this team is playing well, the other team does something that Garrett is incapable of doing, make adjustments. He is adamant that his offensive plan will win the day,even when it is proven that it won't.
 

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There's really no way to prove this.

Here is what I do KNOW. Amendola....could not make this team. Bennett was labeled a colossal bust in Dallas. These are not unknowns....these are facts. We could not use or get productivity out of these guys....there is no defense for what we are seeing in Dallas right now. Matt Cassell somehow managed to make the Pro Bowl in KC....he managed to go 11 - 5 in New England. These are not "what ifs". These are facts. Whatever we are doing in Dallas stinks like a rotting fish. Like I said last week...I am not saying EVERY coach would win without their Pro Bowl QB and WR...but there are plenty who would win 3 - 5 games. We are close to going 0-7...and there is ZERO explanation for this other than "this is BIGGER than the players"
 

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Here is what I do KNOW. Amendola....could not make this team. Bennett was labeled a colossal bust in Dallas. These are not unknowns....these are facts. We could not use or get productivity out of these guys....there is no defense for what we are seeing in Dallas right now. Matt Cassell somehow managed to make the Pro Bowl in KC....he managed to go 11 - 5 in New England. These are not "what ifs". These are facts. Whatever we are doing in Dallas stinks like a rotting fish. Like I said last week...I am not saying EVERY coach would win without their Pro Bowl QB and WR...but there are plenty who would win 3 - 5 games. We are close to going 0-7...and there is ZERO explanation for this other than "this is BIGGER than the players"

Oh and Andre Holmes couldnt make it off our practice squad.
 

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Say, just thinking out loud, how about that Escobar?
 

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Just my $0.02, but in all but the Patriots game, this team was competitive. In fact, in many of the games it looked like they were going to pull it out at the end, but just fell short. The biggest cause of falling short in nearly every single one of those games is absolutely PUTRID quarterback play. Barring something crazy, this team would most likely be 6-1, potentially 7-0 right now with a healthy Romo all season.


It's rare to see a team consistently not be competitive in a game regardless of how bad they are.

Being competitive is nothing to be proud of in a watered down NFL.
 

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It's rare to see a team consistently not be competitive in a game regardless of how bad they are.

Being competitive is nothing to be proud of in a watered down NFL.
Well, that's not true. I'm forced to watch the Texans.

But the point of the thread was that Romo may not be the savior. And my point is that if we're only a handful of plays away from winning the vast majority of our losses, going from the worst passing team in the league to one of the best could flip 5 losses to 5 wins.
 

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Just my $0.02, but in all but the Patriots game, this team was competitive. In fact, in many of the games it looked like they were going to pull it out at the end, but just fell short. The biggest cause of falling short in nearly every single one of those games is absolutely PUTRID quarterback play. Barring something crazy, this team would most likely be 6-1, potentially 7-0 right now with a healthy Romo all season.

I'd guess 6-1 and no worse than 5-2. Cassel had around 100 yds passing yesterday. That's almost impossible in today's NFL especially considering he wasn't touched in the pocket today....no sacks I don't think until the nexty to last play when he had 10 seconds to do something with it.
 

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This coaching with Romo, puts up 300 passing yards and 24+ points a game.

This coaching with Cassell or Weeden, get under 200 passing yards and under 20 points a game.

Now, where's the problem?
Tony also calls plays, Cassel and Weeden don't.

Have you seen Cassel or Weeden play the chess game at the line that Romo does?
 

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I'm just curious to know how many of you there are who point to the 8-8 seasons as being the result of Tony lacking a real supporting cast, and "He can't do it all on his own, this is a team game". I think no fan can doubt at this point, that this has been the main contributor to Tony's lack of post-season successes throughout his career, yet, now some of you are coming along and saying "All we need is Tony back", "He is the engine that makes the car run". Nah, this team needed to step up and help Tony out, and produce a few wins in his absence. It is a team game, always has been and always will be. Tom Brady would struggle with these bunch of goofballs. Tony dissevers hella of allota respect, because he has truly carried this team all these years, and nothing has made that more poignant, then last night's game.

Point I'm making, is that the team as a whole just isn't well coached or something, and they would've still found creative ways to lose, even with Romo in the lineup.

No team could lose its ELITE starting QB and fare well against Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, and Russell Wilson.

It's bad luck that these games couldn't have come against the dreg quarterbacks on the schedule.

But the division keeps losing, so hope is still very much alive.
 

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First things first...Calling Romo a Savior is idiotic but I will let that be.

We are better with Romo than we are without him.

I don't know what our record would be with a healthy Tony Romo and this Oline, but I would imagine it is no stretch what so ever to say we would not have lost 5 games in a row. Even with our running game still in question, even with Dez just now coming back and probably still not 100%...I just don't see us losing five in a row.

I think at worst we would be 4-3 and either leading the NFC east or tying for the lead.

Now people can argue for arguments sake and flap their gums just to play devils advocate...we all have done it at one time or another. But let's be realistic here...we are a better team with Romo no matter if you think the rest of the team is good or not.
 

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No team could lose its ELITE starting QB and fare well against Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, and Russell Wilson.

It's bad luck that these games couldn't have come against the dreg quarterbacks on the schedule.

But the division keeps losing, so hope is still very much alive.

but you also play to win, and not go in the game giving up.............
 
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