Thoughts about the Defense

[xwalker]

Yea, but it's not necessarily the case sometimes.

It's a high probability that if you have decent starters at all positions, that the defense will be decent. No projection is guaranteed to happen, it's just a matter of looking a probabilities. It's like buying stock in Coke. They might go bankrupt, but there's a high probability that they will be profitable.

 

[Setackin]

It's a high probability that if you have decent starters at all positions, that the defense will be decent. No projection is guaranteed to happen, it's just a matter of looking a probabilities. It's like buying stock in Coke. They might go bankrupt, but there's a high probability that they will be profitable.

Yea, I gotcha, I'm not arguing the case.

 

[TheDude]

He was the Head Coach under a GM that used three consecutive 1st round picks on WRs and 4 total 1st round picks on WRs.

Here are Millen's drafts during Marinelli's tenure:
(I think the only defensive players that remained with the Lions a couple of years after Millen was gone are Avril and Fluellen.)

2008
Cherilus, Gosder (from Min through KC) OT
Dizon, Jordon LB
Smith, Kevin(from Mia) RB
Fluellen, Andre(from Cle) DT
Avril, Cliff(from Dal) DE
Moore, Kenneth(from Mia through KC) WR/PR
Felton, Jerome(from NO) FB
Cohen, Landon DT
Campbell, Caleb(from NO) LB
2007
Johnson, Calvin WR
Choice to Buf
Stanton, Drew(from Buf) QB
Alama-Francis, Ikaika(from NO) DE
Alexander, Gerald(from Bal) S
Choice to NO
Choice to Bal
Choice to Jax thru Bal
Davis, A.J.(Choice from Arz thru Oak) CB
Ramirez, Manny G
Choice to StL
Choice to NO
Choice to StL
Baldwin, Johnny(from Den) LB
Choice to Min thru Den
Choice to Dal thru NYJ
Robinson, Ramzee CB
2006
Sims, Ernie LB
Bullocks, Daniel S
Calhoun, Brian RB
Choice to NE
Scott, Jonathan OT
McCann, Dee CB
Matua, Fred G
Cannon, Anthony LB

I dont see that as vastly inferior to the 200-2002 Dallas draft to saddle Dave Campo with. And he was 5-11 (every year).

Joey Galloway Trade cost 2 - #1 picks

2000
2- Dwayne (Chicken Wing) Goodrich - (being a UT alum there at the same time he was, I knew this was going to be bad)
4- Kareem Larrimore
5 - Michael Wiley
6 - Mario Edwards
7 - Orantes Grant

2001
2 - Quincy Carter
2 - Tony Dixon
3 - Willie Blade
4 - Markus Steele
5 - Matt Lehr
6 - Delroy Stewart
7 - Colston Wetherington
7 - John NIx
7 - Charon Dorsey

2002
1 - Roy Williams
2 - Andre Guorode
2 - Antonio Bryant
3 - Derek Ross
4 - Jamar Martin
5 - Pete Hunter
6 - Tyson Walter
6 - Deveren Johnson
6 - Bob Slowikowski

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Actually I doubt the DL will really produce more then it did last year. I think it will be tougher on the run but the pass rush will be very little different.

The LBS is where we will live or die this year. And right now with Carter still in la la land and Lee out, not sure it will be very good.

Secondary actually I think will be better but if the front seven is not all that it will matter little.

If this D ends up ranked higher then 25th by the end of the season then Marrinelli is truly a top DC

what pass rush last year? if its any worse, then God help us. giving a QB 7 or 8 seconds is not acceptable..

 

[TheDude]

Thanks. I combined Toni Fritsch with Fritz the cat. It took me forever to come up with a screen name no one was using when I first signed up here.

We can trade...When I was signing up I tried 4 or 5 in 2008 and they were taken, I was watching Superbad at the time so there it is.

When the mods opened up the name change for people with former players as names, I tried the to argue that since Demarcus "McLovin" Ware - as he was known to his friends - released, I should probably change it. Also, since Roger Staubach became a septuagenarian he stopped going by "McLovin" even for close friends and family.

Denied...they never even asked for proof

 

[KingintheNorth]

^ I'd wish they let us change names if we explained why and weren't trying to hide anything.

This isn't me questioning the mods or board rules. Just asking for some open dialogue on the subject.