Thoughts on the game

[Coakleys Dad]

Watch the game again and tell me which side of the field the passes were completed on!

Henry got owned.

Henry got owned 3 weeks in a row(Key, Lloyd, & now anyone on the cards.) I like AH he just needs to get it together for this week....

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I can't understand for the life of me why people are arguing over Martin, who's not even on the roster or any other NFL roster if I'm not mistaken. Hoyte looks as though he's doing the better job but Julius Jones needs to see the field a little better, there's some cutbacks to be had on the field that he's simply not taking....

 

[Rack]

You can say I am stretching things all you want but the simple fact is when he goes against a good WR he gets beat. Lloyd made him look silly the week before.

Don't worry, if anyone is saying you're stretching anything it's only cuz it's the truth.


And someone tell that mental midget (fuzzylumpkins) that he's been on my ignore list for over a year. I suggest he put me on his ignore list too cuz it's obviously he doesn't have the mental capacity to keep up with me.


Either that or he can go play on a busy freeway. I prefer that one.

 

[DBoys]

Exactly what did Martin do in profootball that merits saying hes a better blocker?

I remember quite a few times where Martin completely failed to move a linebacker out of the hole and Smith would get tagged whereas Hoyte actually produced on the field.

Martin was and still remains a bunch of hype and no production.

I am with you. The last few games I have seen some tremendous blocks by Hoyte. When I saw them I thought about Moose. That thought never entered my mind with Martin.

 

[Rack]

I can't understand for the life of me why people are arguing over Martin, who's not even on the roster or any other NFL roster if I'm not mistaken. Hoyte looks as though he's doing the better job but Julius Jones needs to see the field a little better, there's some cutbacks to be had on the field that he's simply not taking....

Some people tend to think that if you are a better player then someone else, then you are better at every aspect of the game.

All I did was say Martin was better at ONE aspect of the game. Overall, he's not anywhere near the player Hoyte is, but his BLOCKING was good.

I don't understand how that's so difficult to comprehend. He's out of the league cuz ALL he could do was block. He couldn't play special teams, he couldn't run the ball, and he couldn't catch the ball. You have to do more then just run block to keep a job as a FB in today's NFL.

 

[DBoys]

Don't worry, if anyone is saying you're stretching anything it's only cuz it's the truth.


And someone tell that mental midget (fuzzylumpkins) that he's been on my ignore list for over a year. I suggest he put me on his ignore list too cuz it's obviously he doesn't have the mental capacity to keep up with me.


Either that or he can go play on a busy freeway. I prefer that one.

If your facts are sound you can avoid insult. Insult is only a cover for weak facts. If you mentaly superior to him why put him on ignore because the way I see it his facts are better than yours.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Don't worry, if anyone is saying you're stretching anything it's only cuz it's the truth.


And someone tell that mental midget (fuzzylumpkins) that he's been on my ignore list for over a year. I suggest he put me on his ignore list too cuz it's obviously he doesn't have the mental capacity to keep up with me.


Either that or he can go play on a busy freeway. I prefer that one.

Wow, thanks Rack now Im stupid too. How is it that I report this?

Martin never blocked well in NFL games despite all that hype and Hoyte can block in the pro game. How is this difficult to understand?

 

[Rack]

If your facts are sound you can avoid insult. Insult is only a cover for weak facts. If you mentaly superior to him why put him on ignore because the way I see it his facts are better than yours.

You kidding me? All the guy/gal does is throw insults around.


I don't come here to argue with a bunch of babies. I want to have intelligent football debates. I thought you and I were having one of those.


Just cuz Hoyte is a better football player then Martin ever was doesn't mean he was better at EVERY aspect at their respective positions. And I never said Hoyte was a poor blocker.

You want to believe otherwise? Go ahead.

But then you're also the guy that thinks Henry got "owned" today.

 

[Rack]

good point on Fowler. He's playing great this year in the roles Parcells has given him.

Yeah I like Fowler. Good special teamer and he plays with a lot of emotion. We need more guys to get a little fired up after plays. Doesn't even have to be a "big" play.

Hell, Ray Lewis celebrates like he won the superbowl after making a tackle on a 2 yard gain. Fowler can celebrate a little after holding a kick returner to a 15 yard return.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You kidding me? All the guy/gal does is throw insults around.

Now this is hypocritical. The dude calls me stupid and then posts this gem on another thread:

I swear, some of you ... I REALLY hope you don't ever have kids. Let's just stop that bloodline right now. No need to stupify this country any more then it already is.

Once again this is in response to someone elses opinion.

I mean Dboys does this feel like a debate to you or more of Rack discounting your opinion and just repeating himself?

 

[DBoys]

You kidding me? All the guy/gal does is throw insults around.


I don't come here to argue with a bunch of babies. I want to have intelligent football debates. I thought you and I were having one of those.


Just cuz Hoyte is a better football player then Martin ever was doesn't mean he was better at EVERY aspect at their respective positions. And I never said Hoyte was a poor blocker.

You want to believe otherwise? Go ahead.

But then you're also the guy that thinks Henry got "owned" today.

He hasn't insulted you in this thread and I don't know the history. Your the only person calling people names.

We disagree on Henry but I don't see how my opinion of him has any merit with our discussion on Hoyte.

 

[DBoys]

Now this is hypocritical. The dude calls me stupid and then posts this gem on another thread:



Once again this is in response to someone elses opinion.

I mean Dboys does this feel like a debate to you or more of Rack discounting your opinion and just repeating himself?

Your posts have been mature stating what you saw and remember.

Yep, it has been repetition filled with little insults.

 

[Rack]

He hasn't insulted you in this thread and I don't know the history. Your the only person calling people names.

We disagree on Henry but I don't see how my opinion of him has any merit with our discussion on Hoyte.

Where did I call him a "name"?


And have I been any more "repetitious" with my side of the argument then you have?


At least I've tried to point out the difference between their blocking and overall play.


If you have, please point it out. I must have missed it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Where did I call him a "name"?


And have I been any more "repetitious" with my side of the argument then you have?


At least I've tried to point out the difference between their blocking and overall play.


If you have, please point it out. I must have missed it.

Don't worry, if anyone is saying you're stretching anything it's only cuz it's the truth.


And someone tell that mental midget (fuzzylumpkins) that he's been on my ignore list for over a year. I suggest he put me on his ignore list too cuz it's obviously he doesn't have the mental capacity to keep up with me.


Either that or he can go play on a busy freeway. I prefer that one.

And hes calling me stupid.

 

[bbgun]

Rack: he doesn't have the mental capacity to keep up with me.

Um, I realize that all work is honorable, but don't you guard a junkyard or something?

 

[Connection20]

Some people tend to think that if you are a better player then someone else, then you are better at every aspect of the game.

All I did was say Martin was better at ONE aspect of the game. Overall, he's not anywhere near the player Hoyte is, but his BLOCKING was good.

I don't understand how that's so difficult to comprehend. He's out of the league cuz ALL he could do was block. He couldn't play special teams, he couldn't run the ball, and he couldn't catch the ball. You have to do more then just run block to keep a job as a FB in today's NFL.

First off, players like Lorenzo Neal play exactly ZERO special teams, never run the ball unless its an attempt at a surprise play, and dont even know how to catch. They are simply on the roster because they blow people out of the hole in the running game. There are a few more of these guys in the NFL as well, Dan Kreider comes to mind. So your last sentence is 100% false

Secondly, most of your arguments contradict each other. Hoyte is a better player, hes faster, bigger, stronger, and moves better laterally, can make a BUNCH of block Martins cant make, but Martin is a better blocker because he can move a guy better if...and only IF... its a straight up one on one block requiring no movement in space? Yeah, ok.

Being as big of an Ohio State fan as you will ever meet, take it from me, Martin can block on dive/iso plays...thats IT. Period. Dont ask him to lead a sweep play, or even worse, a counter. I cant think of the number of time I saw him running around the corner on a counter play at Ohio State with one man between the RB and him, and watching Martin miss so bad, and the RB getting blown up. I had really high hopes for that guy, but he was a bust, and thats all there is too it. His complete lack of laterall movement or agility has prevented him from making multiple NFL rosters. Say whatever you want, but there is a converted ROOKIE LBer who hasnt played FB since high school who has a starting job in the NFL while Martin isnt even on a roster

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Henry is the weakest of our two corners but playing opposite Newman will do that to a player. Other than maybe Bailey and a couple of others, anyone playing opposite Newman will be picked on, he's just that damn good.