Three Options For WOW Draft

[Dhragon]

I have no doubt Jerry would LIKE a Wow player. But, I think it's becoming less and less likely he will get one. Chad is out of the picture. Philly and Washington can trump us with a higher draft pick if Roy Williams or Boldin becomes tradeable on Saturday. And I doubt we'll get McFadden.

I'm afraid the article posted this morning talking about Jerry possibly getting a CB and a OL is probably right on. Those two might be for our longterm best, but are definitely not a "Wow".

I sure hope Glenn can play well this year unless Jerry is bluffing on McFadden or we can get Roy somehow. We really can use another playmaker in case T.O. goes down again next year for any decent amount of time.

 

[BlueStar II]

I'm taking ALL BETS that we don't end up with McFadden...........

I'm with you on that. I just don't see us ending up with McFadden, no way.

 

[big dog cowboy]

A STRONG Possibility...

1. Dallas trades its 2 first rounders, its 2nd rounder, its 5th rounder and Akin Ayodele to Kansas City in exchange for KC's 1st and 2nd round picks. Dallas then selects Darren McFadden with KC's first (#5 overall) and DB Antoine Cason with KC's second (#35 overall).

I can't believe I just read that.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Yes, but if 3rd CB is our biggest need......well we don't have any big needs really. We got our last guys who filled this role in the 7th round. Sure we could do better, draft them in the 2nd or 3rd, but the point is, when is the last time we made offense a priority?? Sure we have Ware and TNew, but we also have Roy, Carp, and Spears. You can hit and miss with defense just as easy as offense.

I just think a team as good as ours can afford to add an impact player at this point. Pacman still is a chance, if you get him and a 2nd or 3rd round CB, that position will be fine really. It is obvious that our dreams of one of our firsts only for one of those vet WRs won't happen, so we might have to increase the offer.

We do need a impact RB or vet WR, they will have alot more impact on this team than any 3rd CB will have presently.

Both of our starters were hurt last year and one is very injury prone plus they are both over 30. Pacman is a bandaid at best. We need a stud young cb so we don't have to depend on another Reeves type of player when Henry gets hurt again.

 

[mperfection]

I can't believe I just read that.

Why not??

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Both of our starters were hurt last year and one is very injury prone plus they are both over 30. Pacman is a bandaid at best. We need a stud young cb so we don't have to depend on another Reeves type of player when Henry gets hurt again.

Pacman has been a nutcase, but on the field he is better than any CB we will get in the draft. On the field, he is a stud young CB, unlike anyone we will likely get at #22. Of course we could hit the lottery with #22 and get a stud CB, but we don't have time to waste picks on hopes and dreams of hitting the jackpot.

We have 3 needs. I would rather fill 1 of them completely with an impact player than fill all 3 with role players. If we don't get a vet WR, where does that leave us?? With Crayton as a #2?? You mention Henry or TNew going down, what about TO.....he is older than both of them and our offense is a disaster without TO.

I don't totally believe any of our needs are more than the other one when you start looking for impact players. An impact player at WR or RB would have a far greater impact on the team. Even if we got an impact CB, he wouldn't start. A vet WR or elite RB would start, and make a difference.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Pacman has been a nutcase, but on the field he is better than any CB we will get in the draft. On the field, he is a stud young CB, unlike anyone we will likely get at #22. Of course we could hit the lottery with #22 and get a stud CB, but we don't have time to waste picks on hopes and dreams of hitting the jackpot.

We have 3 needs. I would rather fill 1 of them completely with an impact player than fill all 3 with role players. If we don't get a vet WR, where does that leave us?? With Crayton as a #2?? You mention Henry or TNew going down, what about TO.....he is older than both of them and our offense is a disaster without TO.

I don't totally believe any of our needs are more than the other one when you start looking for impact players. An impact player at WR or RB would have a far greater impact on the team. Even if we got an impact CB, he wouldn't start. A vet WR or elite RB would start, and make a difference.

He has to make it on to the field first. We can't put our hopes on him. I agree with you that WR is a need also but IMO cb is a much bigger one. We had a top ranked offense with TO and Crayton last year and they should be better this year. They will have had a whole season and two training camps to learn the offense.

Again it's just my opinion

 

[mperfection]

He has to make it on to the field first. We can't put our hopes on him. I agree with you that WR is a need also but IMO cb is a much bigger one. We had a top ranked offense with TO and Crayton last year and they should be better this year. They will have had a whole season and two training camps to learn the offense.

Again it's just my opinion

And I just happen to agree with this opinion somewhat (being a Memphis boy myself ); however, I think that if there's a chance, we will try to trade up to get McFadden. I really don't see us trying to trade up to get any other player in the first round other than Mendenhall. If neither is available, then I think we will stand pat at 22 and draft a CB.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

He has to make it on to the field first. We can't put our hopes on him. I agree with you that WR is a need also but IMO cb is a much bigger one. We had a top ranked offense with TO and Crayton last year and they should be better this year. They will have had a whole season and two training camps to learn the offense.

Again it's just my opinion

Remember what happened the year after we had the number #1 defense years ago?? If all we do is just hang on a number #1 offense from last year and aren't set on improving ourselves, we won't have it this year.

I'm not resting all hopes in Pacman, I just don't think a 3rd CB is any bigger need than an impact player on offense. We really could use a starting vet WR or even a RB that could win Barber's spot in camp. Yes, Henry and TNew could get hurt, so could TO and Barber. Drafting for potential injuries isn't smart business.

We have gotten used to getting TO for nothing, Romo for nothing, Barber for a low draft pick, so we think we can always do it. Guess what, we have drafted defense for years now, no playoffs wins. When we were drafting offense, well we had Troy, Emmitt, and Irvin.

We need an impact on offense, Jerry knows it or else he wouldn't have said anything about a WOW player at all. Now he knows it will be harder to get, but after years of neglicting offense, it is probably a price that we need to at least THINK about paying.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Why do people keep bringing up jerry talking about video games?

 

[mperfection]

Remember what happened the year after we had the number #1 defense years ago?? If all we do is just hang on a number #1 offense from last year and aren't set on improving ourselves, we won't have it this year.

I'm not resting all hopes in him, I just don't think a 3rd CB is any bigger need than an impact player on offense. We really could use a starting vet WR or even a RB that could win Barber's spot in camp. Yes, Henry and TNew could get hurt, so could TO and Barber. Drafting for potential injuries isn't smart business.

We have gotten used to getting TO for nothing, Romo for nothing, Barber for a low draft pick, so we think we can always do it. Guess what, we have had defense for years now, no playoffs wins. When we were drafting offense, well we had Troy, Emmitt, and Irvin.

We need an impact on offense, Jerry knows it or else he wouldn't have said anything about a WOW player at all. Now he knows it will be harder to get, but after years of neglicting offense, it is probably a price that we need to at least THINK about paying.

You know what your problem is Deep Freeze?

You're making far too much SENSE!

 

[Yeagermeister]

Remember what happened the year after we had the number #1 defense years ago?? If all we do is just hang on a number #1 offense from last year and aren't set on improving ourselves, we won't have it this year.

I'm not resting all hopes in Pacman, I just don't think a 3rd CB is any bigger need than an impact player on offense. We really could use a starting vet WR or even a RB that could win Barber's spot in camp. Yes, Henry and TNew could get hurt, so could TO and Barber. Drafting for potential injuries isn't smart business.

We have gotten used to getting TO for nothing, Romo for nothing, Barber for a low draft pick, so we think we can always do it. Guess what, we have drafted defense for years now, no playoffs wins. When we were drafting offense, well we had Troy, Emmitt, and Irvin.

We need an impact on offense, Jerry knows it or else he wouldn't have said anything about a WOW player at all. Now he knows it will be harder to get, but after years of neglicting offense, it is probably a price that we need to at least THINK about paying.

So when and I do mean when Henry gets hurt again you are comfortable with a low round draft pick coming in to replace him? I'm not.

Once again JMO

 

[Deep_Freeze]

So when and I do mean when Henry gets hurt again you are comfortable with a low round draft pick coming in to replace him? I'm not.

Once again JMO

Well, your assuming that I'm saying that we should give away both picks, which I'm not. I would be in favor of a first and a lower/next year pick for a vet WR. That would leave us with a first to get a CB.

As for trading both firsts, well, I don't see us doing that for a vet WR, that would be dumb given the WR's age. Trading both #1s for another higher pick is something totally different. I don't have a problem with it, and getting a 2nd round CB to fill that role.

Either way we get an impact player on offense, and still end up with viable 3rd CB.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Remember what happened the year after we had the number #1 defense years ago?? If all we do is just hang on a number #1 offense from last year and aren't set on improving ourselves, we won't have it this year.

I'm not resting all hopes in Pacman, I just don't think a 3rd CB is any bigger need than an impact player on offense. We really could use a starting vet WR or even a RB that could win Barber's spot in camp. Yes, Henry and TNew could get hurt, so could TO and Barber. Drafting for potential injuries isn't smart business.

We have gotten used to getting TO for nothing, Romo for nothing, Barber for a low draft pick, so we think we can always do it. Guess what, we have drafted defense for years now, no playoffs wins. When we were drafting offense, well we had Troy, Emmitt, and Irvin.

We need an impact on offense, Jerry knows it or else he wouldn't have said anything about a WOW player at all. Now he knows it will be harder to get, but after years of neglicting offense, it is probably a price that we need to at least THINK about paying.

So when and I do mean when Henry gets hurt again you are comfortable with a low round draft pick coming in to replace him? I'm not.

Once again JMO

 

[Deep_Freeze]

So when and I do mean when Henry gets hurt again you are comfortable with a low round draft pick coming in to replace him? I'm not.

Once again JMO

Didn't I just answer that here or is there an echo....

Well, your assuming that I'm saying that we should give away both picks, which I'm not. I would be in favor of a first and a lower/next year pick for a vet WR. That would leave us with a first to get a CB.

As for trading both firsts, well, I don't see us doing that for a vet WR, that would be dumb given the WR's age. Trading both #1s for another higher pick is something totally different. I don't have a problem with it, and getting a 2nd round CB to fill that role.

Either way we get an impact player on offense, and still end up with viable 3rd CB.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

1. Dallas trades its 2 first rounders, its 2nd rounder, its 5th rounder and Akin Ayodele to Kansas City in exchange for KC's 1st and 2nd round picks. Dallas then selects Darren McFadden with KC's first (#5 overall) and DB Antoine Cason with KC's second (#35 overall).

2. Dallas trades its 3rd and 4th rounder to move up into the 3rd round, possibly seeking help at WR, NT or ILB.

3. Dallas trades its 6th round pick to Tennessee for Pacman

4. After the draft, Dallas trades its 2009 first rounder to Detroit for WR Roy Williams, OR Cincinnati caves in late in the summer and accepts a trade for Chad Johnson.

5. Dallas uses its 7th rounder on either CB help or OL.

For those in the know, Dallas has a STRONG trade history with Kansas City.

You have zero credibility here anymore. Either you simply don't pay attention, or you are just someone who loves to give stuff away, but it was made pretty clear yesturday that it doesn't take nearly as much to move up into the top 10 anymore and yet you want to give up...4 picks and a player (Which, btw, Jerry mentioned would not happen because using Players as chips for moving up in the draft is useless, given that they are not valued nearly as highly as they would be prior to the draft or a week after the draft) to move up and get one guy...

Wow. Thank God you aren't running the Cowboys, or any NFL franchise for that matter.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

the Latest seems to be the Jets moving up ahead of Oak to grab Dmac. They fear Oak trading out of #4 or Oak taking Dmac themselves.

Come on Jerry, Get it Done!

Dmac in JJ's role and Barber the Barbarian the closer, that's where he is best at. Dmac is good for at least 10 td's and Barber another 10.

22 and 28 Will Not Bring Superstar quality to the Boys. Dmac and Romo...what a team.

You assume, and IMO quite horribly, that we'd have DMac and Marion for more than a year with that idea. Because if you move into the top 5 to get DMac, with the deal you're going to have to give him, you're NOT resigning Barber to a long term deal. There is no way they'd pay that kind of cash to two runningbacks so that they could split time.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Didn't I just answer that here or is there an echo....

I didn't see that response when I replied. :

For the record I'd have no problem getting McFadden as long as it didn't cost us a chance at a top cb. I also am on board with trading for a vet wr even though I like that Hardy kid from Indiana.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I didn't see that response when I replied. :

For the record I'd have no problem getting McFadden as long as it didn't cost us a chance at a top cb. I also am on board with trading for a vet wr even though I like that Hardy kid from Indiana.

Cool. I don't care which we do, I just think that we need an impact player on offense right now, and we might have to think about paying the price to get one since we have neglicted it for so long.......unless Carp can play WR or RB.

If it makes us have to draft a 2nd round CB (DMac situation) instead of a 1st to get that impact offensive player so be it. But we could still probably get a impact vet WR (Roy, Boldin situation) for less than both of our 1sts this year (giving another lower/next year pick), saving that other first for a CB.

With an impact player at one of those offensive spots, the other one can be addressed later. Get an impact WR, less pressure on the other RB we get, and vice versa.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Cool. I don't care which we do, I just think that we need an impact player on offense right now, and we might have to think about paying the price to get one since we have neglicted it for so long.......unless Carp can play WR or RB.

If it makes us have to draft a 2nd round CB (DMac situation) instead of a 1st to get that impact offensive player so be it. But we could still probably get a impact vet WR (Roy, Boldin situation) for less than both of our 1sts this year (giving another lower/next year pick), saving that other first for a CB.

With an impact player at one of those offensive spots, the other one can be addressed later. Get an impact WR, less pressure on the other RB we get, and vice versa.

IMO if we take care of the defense the offense will take care of itself. Defense wins championships just look at NY. Who is their impact player on offense? A strong offensive team will almost always lose to strong defensive team.