Tiger Woods discusses knee and much more

[ajk23az]

that's my opinion too. bet Romo would like it if a golf cart came out and drove him to the line of scrimmage every play.

I bet he would too. Too bad in "real" golf tournaments you don't get carts

 

[ologan]

Darn,the boy seems to be a bit rusty....The first two holes of his match today saw him score a birdie and an eagle,before halving the third hole,a par three.

 

[ajk23az]

Darn,the boy seems to be a bit rusty....The first two holes of his match today saw him score a birdie and an eagle,before halving the third hole,a par three.

He is 4 up through 13 right now. He is practically 3 under on his round at the moment, not too shabby.

 

[Rampage]

I bet he would too. Too bad in "real" golf tournaments you don't get carts

too bad. that walking sure is tough on the knees

 

[ajk23az]

too bad. that walking sure is tough on the knees

You obviously don't understand golf and there is no use arguing.

 

[Doomsday101]

You obviously don't understand golf and there is no use arguing.

It is funny because so many NFL and MLB players will watch the PGA professionals and are in ah of the abilities these pro golfers possess. They do understand the difficulty of the sport

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It is funny because so many NFL and MLB players will watch the PGA professionals and are in ah of the abilities these pro golfers possess. They do understand the difficulty of the sport

well since most of them are 'roided up, they're probably wondering how they can remain so calm for 18 holes

 

[mldardy]

If you don't play it, then you have NO IDEA on how hard it is...

Chess is hard too. Being difficult has nothing to do with whether it is a top notch sport. No one cares about golf unless Tiger is playing.

 

[peplaw06]

My opinion is this. Golf is a sport but I don't describe golfers as athletes because there is no running, jumping, throwing involved. Just my opinion.

Michael Phelps doesn't run, jump, or throw... neither does Lance Armstrong.

Regardless I'd live to put those of you who may have played football or basketball, etc. in junior high and high school up against some of these golfers, especially Tiger, and just look at you next to em. You could tell really quick who the athletes were.

 

[Rampage]

Michael Phelps doesn't run, jump, or throw... neither does Lance Armstrong.

Regardless I'd live to put those of you who may have played football or basketball, etc. in junior high and high school up against some of these golfers, especially Tiger, and just look at you next to em. You could tell really quick who the athletes were.

and what would happen if you put us up against John Daly or VJ Singh? also Phelps and Lance get winded doing there sports. If you get winded in golf.......

 

[peplaw06]

and what would happen if you put us up against John Daly or VJ Singh? also Phelps and Lance get winded doing there sports. If you get winded in golf.......

Is John Daly successful? No, he's a joke in the sport. For every John Daly I can point to a 400 pound Gilbert Brown, or a Shaun Rogers who had to sit out entire series, or a Shawn Kemp or Oliver Miller. I'd just about guarantee you Vijay Singh is better built than you are.

And until you've walked 6 miles up hills in 100 degree heat in pants for 4 hours and tried to hit a golf ball without your knees buckling, then how do you know whether it's normal to be winded or not?

You keep changing your requirements for what is and what isn't a sport, or who is and who isn't an athlete. Just makes me think you have no idea what you're talking about. And anyone who would deny Tiger Woods is an athlete is ignorant.

 

[mldardy]

Michael Phelps doesn't run, jump, or throw... neither does Lance Armstrong.

Regardless I'd live to put those of you who may have played football or basketball, etc. in junior high and high school up against some of these golfers, especially Tiger, and just look at you next to em. You could tell really quick who the athletes were.

On your first point, Phelps and Armstrong are using endurance, speed, and strength. I don't see 250-300lb swimmers or cyclist. In golf I do.

Your second point is even worse, I see current and former football, baseball, basketball, hockey playing in these golf tournaments all the time and some of them quite well. On the flip side I would like to see Tiger or any other golfer get out on the basketball court, football or baseball field and try to play those sports well. Somehow I don't see that happening

 

[Rampage]

Is John Daly successful? No, he's a joke in the sport. For every John Daly I can point to a 400 pound Gilbert Brown, or a Shaun Rogers who had to sit out entire series, or a Shawn Kemp or Oliver Miller. I'd just about guarantee you Vijay Singh is better built than you are.

And until you've walked 6 miles up hills in 100 degree heat in pants for 4 hours and tried to hit a golf ball without your knees buckling, then how do you know whether it's normal to be winded or not?

You keep changing your requirements for what is and what isn't a sport, or who is and who isn't an athlete. Just makes me think you have no idea what you're talking about. And anyone who would deny Tiger Woods is an athlete is ignorant.

i'm 22 years old. I'm 6' 183lbs. VJ isn't in better shape than me.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

i'm 22 years old. I'm 5'6" 103lbs. VJ isn't in better shape than me.

more realistic

 

[peplaw06]

On your first point, Phelps and Armstrong are using endurance, speed, and strength. I don't see 250-300lb swimmers or cyclist. In golf I do.

Regardless, they don't run jump or throw, which is what your first point was. Do you know what a counterpoint is?

How many 300 pound golfers are out there? How many 300 pound football players are out there?

Your second point is even worse, I see current and former football, baseball, basketball, hockey playing in these golf tournaments all the time and some of them quite well.

Which means what exactly? That it takes someone with athletic abilities to play golf well? Thanks for making my point for me.

On the flip side I would like to see Tiger or any other golfer get out on the basketball court, football or baseball field and try to play those sports well. Somehow I don't see that happening

You don't think Tiger is athletic enough to play any other sports? What a joke.

 

[mldardy]

Regardless, they don't run jump or throw, which is what your first point was. Do you know what a counterpoint is?

How many 300 pound golfers are out there? How many 300 pound football players are out there?

Which means what exactly? That it takes someone with athletic abilities to play golf well? Thanks for making my point for me. You don't think Tiger is athletic enough to play any other sports? What a joke.

My point is and I feel like I am repeating myself is that athletes in other sports can enter a golf tournament and do pretty well. A golfer can't or at least hasn't shown the ability to step off of the golf course onto a football field, a baseball field, a basketball court, a swimming pool, a track, heck anything besides a golf course and play it and play it well. That's my point. Golfers are golfers that's it. Not athletes, they can't, don't run, jump, throw, use their legs to ride a bike for incredible distances at a fast pace, swim at a fast pace. They do nothing except swing and hit a golf ball in some of the most perfect weather conditions known to man and have to have complete silence, no distractions to do it. Please don't insult real athletes with a golfer there is no comparison.

Like I said your arguments are very weak. You haven't made a good point yet to back up your claims that golfers are supreme athletes except to ask me a bunch of questions that I have already answered.

 

[Doomsday101]

On your first point, Phelps and Armstrong are using endurance, speed, and strength. I don't see 250-300lb swimmers or cyclist. In golf I do.

Your second point is even worse, I see current and former football, baseball, basketball, hockey playing in these golf tournaments all the time and some of them quite well. On the flip side I would like to see Tiger or any other golfer get out on the basketball court, football or baseball field and try to play those sports well. Somehow I don't see that happening

You would be wrong, those who know Tiger know how athletic he is. Tiger works out is not some fat and out of shape guy and now days there are more and more golfers who workout extremely hard. They have to, to compete with Tiger

 

[peplaw06]

My point is and I feel like I am repeating myself is that athletes in other sports can enter a golf tournament and do pretty well.

Are you talking about celebrity golf tournaments? Where the conditions are actually perfect and they use modified scoring? That's funny, because the people who usually do well in those things are retired athletes from other sports, and have the time to devote to become very good. And they're ATHLETIC!!! So you're telling me supreme athletes do well playing golf? That's my entire point. Being athletic is an advantage in golf. I don't know if you're intentionally being obtuse, or if you're just not able to pick up simple points.

A lot of Pro athletes play golf in their offseasons. And since they're athletes, they can become pretty good at it. Are you really not getting this? I can't spell it out for you any better.

A golfer can't or at least hasn't shown the ability to step off of the golf course onto a football field, a baseball field, a basketball court, a swimming pool, a track, heck anything besides a golf course and play it and play it well. That's my point.

So a golfer hasn't played in what a televised amateur football game, or basketball game, you don't say... You know, because they have those all the time. And have you seen Charles Barkley's golf swing? He probably shoots in the 120s. I wouldn't call that "playing well." But you wouldn't argue that he's not an athlete would you?

Regardless your point is ridiculous. So in order to be considered an athlete, the participants of a certain sport must either run, jump or throw (and now swim or bike) and you must participate in other athletic events at a high level? Any other requirements you want to throw out there? Face it, your initial point was proven ludicrous, and you've been backtracking ever since.

Golfers are golfers that's it. Not athletes, they can't, don't run, jump, throw, use their legs to ride a bike for incredible distances at a fast pace, swim at a fast pace. They do nothing except swing and hit a golf ball in some of the most perfect weather conditions known to man and have to have complete silence, no distractions to do it. Please don't insult real athletes with a golfer there is no comparison.

What about hockey players? They don't run, jump, or throw, or bike or swim... are they athletes?

And have you ever watched the US Open or British Open tournaments? There's no way you can call those perfect weather or course conditions, unless you have never seen them.

Like I said your arguments are very weak. You haven't made a good point yet to back up your claims that golfers are supreme athletes except to ask me a bunch of questions that I have already answered.

Lol. You answer them, but your answers are full of holes and exhibit a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

The only thing I have to do to make my point is to disprove yours. And that's like shooting fish in a barrell.

 

[Doomsday101]

Are you talking about celebrity golf tournaments? Where the conditions are actually perfect and they use modified scoring? That's funny, because the people who usually do well in those things are retired athletes from other sports, and have the time to devote to become very good. And they're ATHLETIC!!! So you're telling me supreme athletes do well playing golf? That's my entire point. Being athletic is an advantage in golf. I don't know if you're intentionally being obtuse, or if you're just not able to pick up simple points.

A lot of Pro athletes play golf in their offseasons. And since they're athletes, they can become pretty good at it. Are you really not getting this? I can't spell it out for you any better. So a golfer hasn't played in what a televised amateur football game, or basketball game, you don't say... You know, because they have those all the time. And have you seen Charles Barkley's golf swing? He probably shoots in the 120s. I wouldn't call that "playing well." But you wouldn't argue that he's not an athlete would you?

Regardless your point is ridiculous. So in order to be considered an athlete, the participants of a certain sport must either run, jump or throw (and now swim or bike) and you must participate in other athletic events at a high level? Any other requirements you want to throw out there? Face it, your initial point was proven ludicrous, and you've been backtracking ever since. What about hockey players? They don't run, jump, or throw, or bike or swim... are they athletes?

And have you ever watched the US Open or British Open tournaments? There's no way you can call those perfect weather or course conditions, unless you have never seen them.

Lol. You answer them, but your answers are full of holes and exhibit a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

The only thing I have to do to make my point is to disprove yours. And that's like shooting fish in a barrell.

Jordan, Elway and Rick Roden all tried their hand at making the tour and each said no way they could do it and these are pretty good amature golfers.

 

[mldardy]

Are you talking about celebrity golf tournaments? Where the conditions are actually perfect and they use modified scoring? That's funny, because the people who usually do well in those things are retired athletes from other sports, and have the time to devote to become very good. And they're ATHLETIC!!! So you're telling me supreme athletes do well playing golf? That's my entire point. Being athletic is an advantage in golf. I don't know if you're intentionally being obtuse, or if you're just not able to pick up simple points.

Conditions are perfect for most golf events not just celebrity events. The few times it's not is the British Open or something like that. Retired players from other sports playing well in celebrity golf tournaments doesn't help your point about golfers being athletes.:bang2:

So a golfer hasn't played in what a televised amateur football game, or basketball game, you don't say... You know, because they have those all the time. And have you seen Charles Barkley's golf swing? He probably shoots in the 120s. I wouldn't call that "playing well." But you wouldn't argue that he's not an athlete would you?

You are including things that aren't there on my end. My point is golfers would have a very difficult time and most probably couldn't play those other sports I mentioned. Of there aren't amateur events for baseball, basketball, hockey, football. But I know that a golfer would have a very hard time and in most cases none at all chance of making it in those sports.

Regardless your point is ridiculous. So in order to be considered an athlete, the participants of a certain sport must either run, jump or throw (and now swim or bike) and you must participate in other athletic events at a high level? Any other requirements you want to throw out there? Face it, your initial point was proven ludicrous, and you've been backtracking ever since. What about hockey players? They don't run, jump, or throw, or bike or swim... are they athletes?

Being an athlete IMO requires more than swinging a golf club and walking to go get your golf ball. There is hardly no physicality to golf. No running, jumping, swimming, throwing, contact against each other. I have made this point for the 444444th time now. Hockey players don't run literally but they are doing something on those skates. One that I know they aren't doing is standing around waiting to hit a golf ball in complete silence.

And have you ever watched the US Open or British Open tournaments? There's no way you can call those perfect weather or course conditions, unless you have never seen them.

Yes 2 out of 60 tournaments or how many ever there are. That evens it out.