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[peplaw06]

Conditions are perfect for most golf events not just celebrity events. The few times it's not is the British Open or something like that. Retired players from other sports playing well in celebrity golf tournaments doesn't help your point about golfers being athletes.

Simple question.... yes or no. Is Tony Romo an athlete?

You are including things that aren't there on my end. My point is golfers would have a very difficult time and most probably couldn't play those other sports I mentioned. Of there aren't amateur events for baseball, basketball, hockey, football. But I know that a golfer would have a very hard time and in most cases none at all chance of making it in those sports.

What do you mean by "couldn't play?"

And name me a professional athlete from another sport who has "made it" in golf.

Being an athlete IMO requires more than swinging a golf club and walking to go get your golf ball. There is hardly no physicality to golf. No running, jumping, swimming, throwing, contact against each other. I have made this point for the 444444th time now. Hockey players don't run literally but they are doing something on those skates. One that I know they aren't doing is standing around waiting to hit a golf ball in complete silence.

Do you think that a goaltender in hockey is an athlete? Or do you think that certain people in a sport are athletes while others aren't?

And what does silence have to do with anything? Are tennis players athletes? They swing a racket and run to the ball and jump on occasion? But they play when it's silent.... does that mean they're not athletes?

Yes 2 out of 60 tournaments or how many ever there are. That evens it out.

The weather is rarely perfect for golf. They don't play in Southern California or Florida all year.

And most of these courses aren't your 5,500 yard muni course that you may have played from the women's tees on once or twice. They're 7,300 yard monsters with ridiculous pin placements.

 

[mldardy]

Simple question.... yes or no. Is Tony Romo an athlete?

What do you mean by "couldn't play?"

And name me a professional athlete from another sport who has "made it" in golf.

Do you think that a goaltender in hockey is an athlete? Or do you think that certain people in a sport are athletes while others aren't?

And what does silence have to do with anything? Are tennis players athletes? They swing a racket and run to the ball and jump on occasion? But they play when it's silent.... does that mean they're not athletes?

The weather is rarely perfect for golf. They don't play in Southern California or Florida all year.

And most of these courses aren't your 5,500 yard muni course that you may have played from the women's tees on once or twice. They're 7,300 yard monsters with ridiculous pin placements.

Of course Romo is an athlete. He is a FOOTBALL player.

You are missing the point again. My point is not to prove that an athlete from another sport can make it in golf. My point is to prove that athletes from other sports have played in golf tournaments and played well. Now flip that around for golfers playing in other sports and you have a problem.

You are really not asking that question about goaltenders, are you? They have to stop a puck with their arms, legs, etc. Yes goaltenders or any other hockey position are athletes.

Golf is rarely played in perfect weather? LOL. I went to the PGA tours website to see their list of tournaments this year and the first tournament played in a non warm weather location is in June in Ohio. All the other events not in the summer are played in Texas, Florida, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Arizona, California.

 

[Doomsday101]

Of course Romo is an athlete. He is a FOOTBALL player.

You are missing the point again. My point is not to prove that an athlete from another sport can make it in golf. My point is to prove that athletes from other sports have played in golf tournaments and played well. Now flip that around for golfers playing in other sports and you have a problem.

You are really not asking that question about goaltenders, are you? They have to stop a puck with their arms, legs, etc. Yes goaltenders or any other hockey position are athletes.

Golf is rarely played in perfect weather? LOL. I went to the PGA tours website to see their list of tournaments this year and the first tournament played in a non warm weather location is in June in Ohio. All the other events not in the summer are played in Texas, Florida, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Arizona, California.

Could Tiger compete in the NFL? No but no one in the NFL can compete in the PGA. Romo can't even qualify for a US Open and he is considered a pretty darn good amature. The events you see members of different sport compete in is not the PGA they compete aginst each other or go to pro Ams where their scores do not come close to that of PGA professionals. Tiger would have as good of a chance of making it in the NFL as Romo would have making it on the PGA

 

[Vintage]

Holy ****, Tiger!!!!!!!!!!!!


What a bunker shot!


CHARGE, TIGER, CHARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Vintage]

Of course Romo is an athlete. He is a FOOTBALL player.

You are missing the point again. My point is not to prove that an athlete from another sport can make it in golf. My point is to prove that athletes from other sports have played in golf tournaments and played well. Now flip that around for golfers playing in other sports and you have a problem.

You are really not asking that question about goaltenders, are you? They have to stop a puck with their arms, legs, etc. Yes goaltenders or any other hockey position are athletes.

Golf is rarely played in perfect weather? LOL. I went to the PGA tours website to see their list of tournaments this year and the first tournament played in a non warm weather location is in June in Ohio. All the other events not in the summer are played in Texas, Florida, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Arizona, California.

Well, it would be impossible to play golf... you know.... in the snow.

Basketball is played in perfect weather all the time. Indoors.

Quite a few football teams have domes.

 

[peplaw06]

Of course Romo is an athlete. He is a FOOTBALL player.

And this athlete played the same course as professional golfers played in the US Open last year, and he shot 13 over in one round. Extrapolate that out over four days and he would have lost to Tiger by 53 shots. And Romo is probably the best golfer among the current professional athletes from other sports.

You are missing the point again. My point is not to prove that an athlete from another sport can make it in golf. My point is to prove that athletes from other sports have played in golf tournaments and played well. Now flip that around for golfers playing in other sports and you have a problem.

53 shots is not even in the same stratosphere as far as golfers go. Romo would get laughed off the tour if he tried to play full time unless he quit football.

What are you expecting golfers to be able to go try out for baseball teams in spring training a la Michael Jordan? We all saw how successful he was as a baseball player.

You are really not asking that question about goaltenders, are you? They have to stop a puck with their arms, legs, etc. Yes goaltenders or any other hockey position are athletes.

Well they don't skate. If I want to be a simpleton, I could say they don't really do anything but get in the way.

Golf is rarely played in perfect weather? LOL. I went to the PGA tours website to see their list of tournaments this year and the first tournament played in a non warm weather location is in June in Ohio. All the other events not in the summer are played in Texas, Florida, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Arizona, California.

They play in windy conditions, rainy conditions, stifling heat and humidity oftentimes... Perfect weather IMO is no wind, no rain, 72 degrees, little humidity. They don't play in those conditions very often. And do you realize how ******** it is to define a sport based on the conditions it's played in? Vintage has already made a good point, what about sports played indoors? That truly is perfect weather. Does that somehow make those events non-sporting events? I guess football is a sport as long as it's played outside.... once you go indoors, it ceases being a sport??

 

[mldardy]

Well, it would be impossible to play golf... you know.... in the snow.

Basketball is played in perfect weather all the time. Indoors.

Quite a few football teams have domes.

Talk about someone late to the party. Really? Really? Basketball is played indoors. Man thanks for letting me know that I never knew.

 

[mldardy]

And this athlete played the same course as professional golfers played in the US Open last year, and he shot 13 over in one round. Extrapolate that out over four days and he would have lost to Tiger by 53 shots. And Romo is probably the best golfer among the current professional athletes from other sports.

53 shots is not even in the same stratosphere as far as golfers go. Romo would get laughed off the tour if he tried to play full time unless he quit football.

What are you expecting golfers to be able to go try out for baseball teams in spring training a la Michael Jordan? We all saw how successful he was as a baseball player.

Well they don't skate. If I want to be a simpleton, I could say they don't really do anything but get in the way.

They play in windy conditions, rainy conditions, stifling heat and humidity oftentimes... Perfect weather IMO is no wind, no rain, 72 degrees, little humidity. They don't play in those conditions very often. And do you realize how ******** it is to define a sport based on the conditions it's played in? Vintage has already made a good point, what about sports played indoors? That truly is perfect weather. Does that somehow make those events non-sporting events? I guess football is a sport as long as it's played outside.... once you go indoors, it ceases being a sport??

We are just gonna have to agree to disagree. You think golfers are athletes I don't. I doubt we ever change our opinions. I am also tired of making the same point over and over.

 

[peplaw06]

I am also tired of making the same point over and over.

Your same point has been proven wrong over and over and over, and you keep making it? Don't ever let anyone accuse you of having an open mind.

 

[mldardy]

Your same point has been proven wrong over and over and over, and you keep making it? Don't ever let anyone accuse you of having an open mind.

LOL, not quite. Dude is seriously catching feelings over golfers not being athletes.

You just can't leave it alone can you? Golfers aren't athletes period.

 

[peplaw06]

LOL, not quite. Dude is seriously catching feelings over golfers not being athletes.

You just can't leave it alone can you? Golfers aren't athletes period.

I can't leave it alone?? that's funny considering you threw in the towel and came right back...

Plus you say agree to disagree then claim your opinion is how it is....... period.

No one's catching feelings here, but it sounds like you might be a little butt hurt that you can't form a coherent argument, and have been stripping the gears throwing your *** in reverse in this thread.

 

[mldardy]

I can't leave it alone?? that's funny considering you threw in the towel and came right back...

Plus you say agree to disagree then claim your opinion is how it is....... period.

No one's catching feelings here, but it sounds like you might be a little butt hurt that you can't form a coherent argument, and have been stripping the gears throwing your *** in reverse in this thread.

You got it all wrong. I am just tired of going back and forth about this. Neither one of us are going to budge from our opinions. I am trying to be nice about this but you keep throwing these little jabs in there which is not cool at all. You aren't going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours. LOL at you saying I can't form an coherent argument but you can? Riiiigggghttt.

I gave you the locations of where these tournaments are played in warm weather environments for the most part and you come back with "They play in windy conditions, rainy conditions, stifling heat and humidity oftentimes... Perfect weather IMO is no wind, no rain, 72 degrees"
Are you kidding. Yeah it sure rains a lot in Arizona, California, Texas, etc. It definitely is not 72 degrees in those locations. No not at all more like 82 and 92 instead. You have got to be kidding me with this lameness.

 

[silverbear]

LOL, not quite. Dude is seriously catching feelings over golfers not being athletes.

You just can't leave it alone can you? Golfers aren't athletes period.

Lemme guess-- you TRIED to play golf once, failed miserably, and the humiliation is still eating at you...

A lot of people can eventually get to the point where they play golf fairly well, which I would define as playing to a 5 or 6 handicap or better... but it takes athleticism, talent and discipline to shave those last five or six shots off, to get your game Tour-ready...

You'll notice that you don't see a lot of former NFL, MLB and NBA players gravitating to the Pro Tour when they're no longer able to play their sports at the top levels... there's a reason for that...

Folks who dis the athleticism required to play golf well are ALWAYS folks who don't play the game, thus they don't have the first clue about what it takes...

 

[silverbear]

You got it all wrong. I am just tired of going back and forth about this. Neither one of us are going to budge from our opinions. I am trying to be nice about this but you keep throwing these little jabs in there which is not cool at all. You aren't going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours. LOL at you saying I can't form an coherent argument but you can? Riiiigggghttt.

I gave you the locations of where these tournaments are played in warm weather environments for the most part and you come back with "They play in windy conditions, rainy conditions, stifling heat and humidity oftentimes... Perfect weather IMO is no wind, no rain, 72 degrees"
Are you kidding. Yeah it sure rains a lot in Arizona, California, Texas, etc. It definitely is not 72 degrees in those locations. No not at all more like 82 and 92 instead. You have got to be kidding me with this lameness.

Actually, the problem is yours, not his... what he's trying to tell you is what true golfers already know-- you could play the same golf course every day for the rest of your life, and each and every day the course would play slightly differently...

The play tournament golf in extreme wind, they play it in extreme heat, they play it in the cold, they even play it in the rain... about the only thing that gets a round called off is lighting...

 

[mldardy]

Actually, the problem is yours, not his... what he's trying to tell you is what true golfers already know-- you could play the same golf course every day for the rest of your life, and each and every day the course would play slightly differently...

The play tournament golf in extreme wind, they play it in extreme heat, they play it in the cold, they even play it in the rain... about the only thing that gets a round called off is lighting...

^^^ So many people that have their panties in a bunch. I can see a pattern on this board. There are too many people that like to get into arguments or like to bait others into getting into arguments and gang up on a poster. I can't stand that stuff. I just want to be able to express my opinion and have a good debate. This stuff about me having a problem and nonsense like that makes you sound childish. You don't know me to tell me if I have a problem.

Golfers are not athletes. I don't care about having to play it once or hundred times. My opinion is not going to change. You can give me every rationale about your personal golf experience with your little buddies. I will still feel the same way.

 

[silverbear]

^^^ So many people that have their panties in a bunch.

I'm just laughing at the ignorant things you've said...

And for the record, I spent 15 years of my life working as a golf pro, so I have some idea what I'm talking about...

I can see a pattern on this board. There are too many people that like to get into arguments or like to bait others into getting into arguments and gang up on a poster. I can't stand that stuff.

Well then, you've got a problem, because that's how message boards work... even in here, a man's actions have consequences, and if you say something silly, you're going to get laughed at...

This stuff about me having a problem and nonsense like that makes you sound childish. You don't know me to tell me if I have a problem.

The only "problem" you have is making blanket statements about things you know little to nothing about...

Again, speaking from my experiences as a former golf pro, whenever I encounter somebody who arrogantly dismisses the athleticism required to play golf, a few questions to that individual quickly reveals that the critic has either never played the game, or played it a few times, got frustrated at how HARD it is to do well, and quit the game...

Anybody who plays the game at a reasonable competent level understands how very difficult it is to play that sport well...

Golfers are not athletes

Try telling that to Hale Irwin, who was a two time all-Big 8 DB at Colorado...

Or maybe you want to mention it to John Brodie, who went from a successful career as an NFL QB to a less-than-successful career on the Senior PGA Tour (1 career win)...

My opinion is not going to change. You can give me every rationale about your personal golf experience with your little buddies. I will still feel the same way.

Apparently, you think that having a closed mind is something to brag about...

Good luck with that... I console myself with the knowledge that the next time I'm waiting on a slow foursome in front of me, you won't be part of the problem...

 

[silverbear]

There are too many people that like to get into arguments

Said the man who CHOSE to pick a fight by dissing golf in a Tiger Woods thread...

 

[EveryoneElse]

I haven't thrown a football in a few years, but use to be accurate and could throw it about 60 yards.

I can catch a football.

I was a pretty darn good baseball player.

I can shoot the 3 pointer, it's not hard, I can dribble the ball.

Hitting that little white ball straight and being consistent in all three areas of that game is damn near impossible, unless your hitting 1000 balls a day and spending the average persons yearly income every year on your golf game.

Golf is a sport, and imo, has to be the hardest game to master.

Tiger Woods is probably the most impressive athlete in the world.

 

[mldardy]

I'm just laughing at the ignorant things you've said...

And for the record, I spent 15 years of my life working as a golf pro, so I have some idea what I'm talking about...



Well then, you've got a problem, because that's how message boards work... even in here, a man's actions have consequences, and if you say something silly, you're going to get laughed at...




The only "problem" you have is making blanket statements about things you know little to nothing about...

Again, speaking from my experiences as a former golf pro, whenever I encounter somebody who arrogantly dismisses the athleticism required to play golf, a few questions to that individual quickly reveals that the critic has either never played the game, or played it a few times, got frustrated at how HARD it is to do well, and quit the game...

Anybody who plays the game at a reasonable competent level understands how very difficult it is to play that sport well...



Try telling that to Hale Irwin, who was a two time all-Big 8 DB at Colorado...

Or maybe you want to mention it to John Brodie, who went from a successful career as an NFL QB to a less-than-successful career on the Senior PGA Tour (1 career win)...




Apparently, you think that having a closed mind is something to brag about...

Good luck with that... I console myself with the knowledge that the next time I'm waiting on a slow foursome in front of me, you won't be part of the problem...

LOL who cares how many years you spent as a golf pro. That's great now you are a professional poster on the Dallas Cowboys message board. Congratulations. If I wanted to know i would have asked. I gave my opinion, I stand by my opinion. Golfers are not athletes, have a good day. Now you can go pick on the next poster you don't agree.

 

[mldardy]

I haven't thrown a football in a few years, but use to be accurate and could throw it about 60 yards.

I can catch a football.

I was a pretty darn good baseball player.

I can shoot the 3 pointer, it's not hard, I can dribble the ball.

Hitting that little white ball straight and being consistent in all three areas of that game is damn near impossible, unless your hitting 1000 balls a day and spending the average persons yearly income every year on your golf game.

Golf is a sport, and imo, has to be the hardest game to master.

Tiger Woods is probably the most impressive athlete in the world.

:laugh2: Not even close. Great golfer though.