Time of possession - 41:55 Cowboys v. 18:05 Eagles

[Red Dragon]

People will disagree but I think at times the running game was a detriment at times. It kept giving us 2nd and 13.

Similar thing happened to the Giants when they lost 31-21 to Dallas.

 

[Crown Royal]

I agree to a certain extent. They then started to throw a bit on 1st down and got some nice plays and then went back to the run and Murray got a few good runs. We really need to throw a little more with Romo under center. I think they may be a little worried about Tony's mobility getting back and not getting sacked.

YR

I think they knew the Eagles were selling out against the run and trying to play single coverage, so they continued to run just enough to keep them on that tack. It really, really opened the passing game.

Additionally, they have been rewarded this season for sticking with the run. THat it didn't reward them one time out of like 10 is not a big deal.

 

[Alexander]

24 points in 18 minutes of possession is a frightening statistic.

 

[Crown Royal]

24 points in 18 minutes of possession is a frightening statistic.

I think the offensive philosophy is sound, but it has no counterpunch. If it isn't successful, they don't have something else to fall back on.

 

[Alexander]

I think the offensive philosophy is sound, but it has no counterpunch. If it isn't successful, they don't have something else to fall back on.

The counter really would not be necessary if the defense was not a sieve. If anything, it has won us more games by keeping the defense exposed as little as possible. It is almost a necessity right now considering they cannot stop even an average offense with any range of consistency.

 

[Crown Royal]

The counter really would not be necessary if the defense was not a sieve. If anything, it has won us more games by keeping the defense exposed as little as possible. It is almost a necessity right now considering they cannot stop even an average offense with any range of consistency.

I'm talking from an eagle's perspective. If you shut down their quick-hit offense and cause three and outs, and then score, what can they do to counter it? Do they move to a power run game, slow the clock down, etc.? You are basically injecting the potential for blowouts with their offensive style.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

24 points in 18 minutes of possession is a frightening statistic.

Of course, but that's part of the Eagles' offensive design as well. They will score more points per time of possession than the rest of the league because they are not wasting much time from snap-to-snap.

The issue is that...as we saw...if the offense gets stopped early on, now it is creating a sizeable hole for itself. And had Hitchens not gotten tripped up on that 3rd down conversion to Sproles or the 3rd and 11 conversion by Maclin caused by Carr foolishly going for the pick, it doesn't look good for the Eagles.

That's kind of the way the offense goes...it is often hit or miss. It will either have a 3 and out and waste almost no time off the clock or it will score in a hurry.



YR

 

[visionary]

I especially liked that Collinsworth didn't have anything to say through most of the broadcast.

Collinsworth is a good and fair commentator

Next you will e telling us that Aikman hates the cowboys

Please stop your trolling and enjoy the win

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm talking from an eagle's perspective. If you shut down their quick-hit offense and cause three and outs, and then score, what can they do to counter it? Do they move to a power run game, slow the clock down, etc.? You are basically injecting the potential for blowouts with their offensive style.

I think it's better to do what the Bills did in the 90's with the K-Gun offense, be able to pick and choose your spots when you go hurry-up no huddle instead of doing it every down.

The good about the hurry up is that it not only does not allow for defensive subs, but it also makes it more difficult to set up blitzes and show different coverages. While the offensive scheme is simple, it also tends to make the defensive scheme simple. And if you can blow out the opponent in the first half, now your odds of winning have tremendously increased.

The negatives are what we see...particularly if the offense doesn't get it going early. I think in the past 2 games Philly has ran 90 plays to their opponents' 160 plays. If they didn't have the no huddle, that difference would shrink. So they get a tough game against the Seahawks and then they are likely to be worn down by the time they face the Cowboys.

It also helps to have a more accurate QB as well.




YR

 

[morasp]

That stat could pay dividends for our playoff hopes in terms of winning the division. Last week the Eagles defense was on the field a lot too. That eventually will take a toll on how fresh they are. Plus, they have to turn around and play a road game against the Commanders Saturday after playing last night.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Collinsworth is a good and fair commentator

Next you will e telling us that Aikman hates the cowboys

Please stop your trolling and enjoy the win

Collinsworth's announcing has improved since he went to NBC. I don't know if the people in the truck were the problem or what. I remember my friends and I would often quote goofy Collinsworth quotes during games he was so goofy back then.

Aikman seems to have lightened up a little on Dallas. I'm sure Garrett being the HC had something to do with that as well as there being talk about Aikman running the personnel department in Dallas. Whether or not it was anything more than a rumor, it was about that time that Aikman started to lighten up when announcing Dallas.

I don't think he hated Dallas, but I do think he wanted to go out of his way to not come off like a homer and he went to such an extreme that I would have rather had him on mute. He's still dead to me for those years of nonsense and has a long way to go before I ever forgive him for it.




YR

 

[Crown Royal]

I think it's better to do what the Bills did in the 90's with the K-Gun offense, be able to pick and choose your spots when you go hurry-up no huddle instead of doing it every down.

The good about the hurry up is that it not only does not allow for defensive subs, but it also makes it more difficult to set up blitzes and show different coverages. While the offensive scheme is simple, it also tends to make the defensive scheme simple. And if you can blow out the opponent in the first half, now your odds of winning have tremendously increased.

The negatives are what we see...particularly if the offense doesn't get it going early. I think in the past 2 games Philly has ran 90 plays to their opponents' 160 plays. If they didn't have the no huddle, that difference would shrink. So they get a tough game against the Seahawks and then they are likely to be worn down by the time they face the Cowboys.

It also helps to have a more accurate QB as well.

YR

Yeah, I'm not giving Kellly a fair shake at the moment. He hasn't really ever had a great QB to develop into the system. My concern, though, is that I think he devalues the position a little. I dunno if he really believe you need a great QB, and prefers to instead invest in the rest of team and keep the offense as simple as possible. IF that's true, he won't succeed in this league long term.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Yeah, I'm not giving Kellly a fair shake at the moment. He hasn't really ever had a great QB to develop into the system. My concern, though, is that I think he devalues the position a little. I dunno if he really believe you need a great QB, and prefers to instead invest in the rest of team and keep the offense as simple as possible. IF that's true, he won't succeed in this league long term.

I don't believe they were in a good draft position to get a QB his first season as IIRC, that was a weak class for QB's. He also had Vick, who would seem like a perfect fit for the read-option. Then Foles was a 3rd round pick and had a great season (although I think he was lucky a lot of the time). Tough to go after a QB in the first 3 rounds when Foles put up the numbers he did. And not much in the way you can do about backups. Usually if you are using your backup, you're not in a good position to win.

I think the larger issue is that his offense is likely to lead to more QB injuries. Most of the scheme is very basic and part of the key for defenses is to occasionally set up a complex blitz. If the O-Line isn't in position to defend that, it's a free shot on the QB. Also, since you're running more plays, more times the QB can get hit.




YR

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I'm just glad the Chip Kelly slobber fest has come to a halt. Hope it stays that way.

 

[cowboys1981]

That win was sponsored by the letter "W" lol.

 

[cowboys1981]

I'm just glad the Chip Kelly slobber fest has come to a halt. Hope it stays that way.

Me too!!

 

[CATCH17]

It was a typical Cowboys win..

We are almost impossible to beat when we get that early lead on teams.

 

[Blackspider214]

Nothing silly about it. They put up 27 despite 4 TOs and a fake QB. Imagine if they have a real QB.

We need some major DL upgrade next year.

7 of that was gifted by a turnover that gave them the ball 14yds away.

This is nothing different from when Chip was at Oregon. Offense looks great against weak opponents. But can be shut down by quality opponents. And at times, made to look silly.

And how many of their yards came from YAC from just terrible missed tackles? Carr took a horrible play at the ball and let Maclin go 70yds up the field. Twice.

There is nothing special about this offense. No idea why so many are in awe of it.

 

[Crown Royal]

I don't believe they were in a good draft position to get a QB his first season as IIRC, that was a weak class for QB's. He also had Vick, who would seem like a perfect fit for the read-option. Then Foles was a 3rd round pick and had a great season (although I think he was lucky a lot of the time). Tough to go after a QB in the first 3 rounds when Foles put up the numbers he did. And not much in the way you can do about backups. Usually if you are using your backup, you're not in a good position to win.

I think the larger issue is that his offense is likely to lead to more QB injuries. Most of the scheme is very basic and part of the key for defenses is to occasionally set up a complex blitz. If the O-Line isn't in position to defend that, it's a free shot on the QB. Also, since you're running more plays, more times the QB can get hit.

YR

No doubt. EJ Manuel was that year. But is he going to engineer resources to procure a good QB? He doesn't need great, just decent.

 

[aikemirv]

Our coaching staff really blew it at the end of the first half trying to go deep with Dez on 3rd and 1. That was when we needed a couple of first downs and a FG or TD to end the half but instead we have to punt and give them the ball back. That was a big blunder. That had me mad for a long while! That would have been another 3-4 minutes of possesion right there!