Time to blow it up

[DOUBLE WING]

Agreed. I'd watch that team muster a 3-13 or 4-12 record happily if I could see the commitment to an actual rebuild.

There's something to be said about the enjoyment of watching a team that plays hard. As a Lakers fan, I can tell you that watching this years team of young hungry players is so much more satisfying than watching last year with overpaid, overrated bums like Dwight Howard. Even though I know this years Lakers team has no chance at a title.

I would love to for once see a Cowboys team that actually gave that kind of effort on a weekly basis. This team makes it really hard to root for them.

 

[jnday]

Other than QB and deep-snapper, they only have 2 players over 30 under contract for 2014, Ware and Witten.

The only thing they have to do to "blow it up" is to cut Ware and his 12.25M base salary. Witten is an option, but his salary is a much more reasonable 5M and he plays 2x or 3x the number of snaps that Ware plays.

They can't cut Romo due to the salary cap impact.

Do you really think Carr is worth his contract? The Romo signing insured that building a quality team around him is going to be hard to do. It can't be done before he declines to the point that he will be a liability.

 

[TheFinisher]

Do you really think Carr is worth his contract? The Romo signing insured that building a quality team around him is going to be hard to do. It can't be done before he declines to the point that he will be a liability.

Should have waited on handing Romo that contract. You know, like actually earning it..

 

[jnday]

I could see blowing it up to some degree. But I can't see them completely starting over. They're not going to get rid of their franchise QB, nor should they, and I don't see Witten going anywhere.

Maybe you could move Ware, if it weren't for the money, just to start getting younger and making some moves on defense but I don't see a lot they're going to do. Dumping Ware, Carr, and Austin gets you a lot of cap penalty money that they can't afford so I'm not sure any of that is a real option.

Which, btw, won't fix the biggest issue which is the piss poor GM.

I don't think the question is if they can afford to dump Ware, Carr and Austin. It becomes a question of if the team can become better with them on the roster. I don't see that it is possible. The injury prone players need to be evaluated as well. Players that provide part time production and receive full time pay is bad business.

 

[Section446]

It is not a popular ideal, but it is time to blow this team up and start over. I had rather see a 3-13 team that has the draft picks to start building a quality young team rather than an 8-8 team with an aging core . This core also have contracts that kills any chance of adding needed talent. I say it is time to start trading and cutting the old vets. Take the hit to the salary cap and get the dead money off the books. This team is not one or two players away. They are a whole defense away from having a top team and the offense has holes as well. The coaching staff needs to hit the road, every last one of them. This 8-8 rut has the team in a position where they don't get top talent in the draft and the scouting department is not good enough to find the hidden talent. How many more years should the fanbase cling to this very average core of players?

It's been time to blow this thing up for a couple of years.

 

[jnday]

Should have waited on handing Romo that contract. You know, like actually earning it..

He has been a good QB, but putting a supporting cast around him before his career is over is doubtful at best.

 

[03EBZ06]

As long as JJ is gm, it doesn't matter if this team gets blown up or not. Also, IF this team does get blown up, the team won't be competing for 2-3 years or longer, not just 2014.

But it's just a pipe dream, this team will not get blown up anytime soon, not this year nor next year.

 

[dragon_mikal]

Should have waited on handing Romo that contract. You know, like actually earning it..

Like Joe Flacco?

Romo earned his contract. I know it's tough to accept but he would've been paid regardless. If not by Jerry than by another GM.

 

[xwalker]

Do you really think Carr is worth his contract? The Romo signing insured that building a quality team around him is going to be hard to do. It can't be done before he declines to the point that he will be a liability.

Defenses can go from horrible to good with enough talent added. It's generally faster to put together a defense than an offense.

It's not unreasonable to expect to get 2 early draft picks on defense and 2 free agents. They could get even more free agents if they cut Ware.

That would be replacing between 4 and 6 starters in 1 off-season. That changes the entire makeup of the defense.

I don't know if any CB would look better than Carr in the current situation with minimal pass rush and inexperienced safeties.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I have to say it might be the core of this team that's rotten honestly...

 

[5Stars]

Defenses can go from horrible to good with enough talent added. It's generally faster to put together a defense than an offense.

It's not unreasonable to expect to get 2 early draft picks on defense and 2 free agents. They could get even more free agents if they cut Ware.

That would be replacing between 4 and 6 starters in 1 off-season. That changes the entire makeup of the defense.

I don't know if any CB would look better than Carr in the current situation with minimal pass rush and inexperienced safeties.

Not that it would have mattered, but it could have, but I think during the offseason the Cowboys were counting on the Rat and Spencer to be in the fold. That would have created a better pass rush for the team. But, those crooks took the money and ran! Those two yo-yos are the ones that help steal the defense away from the Cowboys.

The Rat and his fragile ego and Spencer who SHOULD have known that he could not go, but he took the 10 mil anyway. That is a lot of cash that the team could not spend on other players.

 

[john van brocklin]

It is not a popular ideal, but it is time to blow this team up and start over. I had rather see a 3-13 team that has the draft picks to start building a quality young team rather than an 8-8 team with an aging core . This core also have contracts that kills any chance of adding needed talent. I say it is time to start trading and cutting the old vets. Take the hit to the salary cap and get the dead money off the books. This team is not one or two players away. They are a whole defense away from having a top team and the offense has holes as well. The coaching staff needs to hit the road, every last one of them. This 8-8 rut has the team in a position where they don't get top talent in the draft and the scouting department is not good enough to find the hidden talent. How many more years should the fanbase cling to this very average core of players?

Totaly agree with everything you said !

 

[Everlastingxxx]

The Hollywood scene has to be blown up. The dysfunctional structure of the organization needs to be blown up. You can keep breaking up the legos over and over again, but the same idiot is still the one building them back up.

 

[xwalker]

The Hollywood scene has to be blown up. The dysfunctional structure of the organization needs to be blown up. You can keep breaking up the legos over and over again, but the same idiot is still the one building them back up.

I don't see a Hollywood scene. When Wade Phillips was the HC, there was a rampant sense of entitlement that appears to be gone now.

There is always some amount of "Hollywood" surrounding the Cowboys due to the media coverage and large national fan base. This was true during Landry's tenure and during the Super Bowl years under Jimmy.

 

[jnday]

You seem to be in a panic.

Blow the team up?

Easier said than done. "Oh, Jerra, let's blow the team up and start from scratch."

Disregard contracts. Just cut ever body loose and get a new team!
Yeah, that will work! .

There is nothing wrong with this team that a solid defense can't cure. Get the defense healthy and draft mostly for the defense next year and we can do it within 2 years.

"Blow the team up" is something that occurs in the mind of the naive and fair-weathered fan.

Really? I have been s fan for over 40 years. Through the good times and bad. It comes a point that even the blind has to realize that something is not working. Do you really want to cling to a core group of older, overpayed players that has been nothing but average ? It is naive to think that a solid defense will be built without some major changes. It will take much more than a good draft. It will take several good drafts. Did you miss the game last night? Did you miss the other games this year when very average QBs looked like they were part of the Manning family? Why cling to a core group that hasn't produced? This group has made there run over the last few years and have came up short. I guess Jimmy Johnson was naive.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

You can do it. You just can't do it with the mindset of competing next year. If you're going to rebuild, do it right. Don't worry about being competitive in 2014. That would only hold you back from building a new team.

Get the salary cap in order. Whatever it takes. I don't care if we're fielding a bunch of street free agents for a couple of years. The goal is to build a new young core that can contend in the future. Get really bad, stockpile high draft picks, flush out the salary cap mess and maybe this Cowboys team can be one emerging with a ton of youth and plenty of money to spend in a few years.

I'd sign off on that right now. It's time.

Yeah I agree with that. If you're going to be willing to no be competitive, in the least, for 3-4 years then that's definately the way to go. I'm not sure how long it would take to fix your cap if you went out and blew everything up at this point. I'm not sure, cause I'm no cap genius or anything like that, what the effects of Romo, Witten, Ware, Lee, Carr, and Austins contracts would have on the cap. I'm guessing it's enough that the mess would take a few years to clean up.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't think the question is if they can afford to dump Ware, Carr and Austin. It becomes a question of if the team can become better with them on the roster. I don't see that it is possible. The injury prone players need to be evaluated as well. Players that provide part time production and receive full time pay is bad business.

Agreed.

I'm definately all about dumping Austin. I have been for a couple of years now. I'll admit I still believe Ware is a player. Maybe I'm the only person that still believes that but I do. But if you're going to blow it up then of course Ware has to go as well.

 

[Alexander]

It is not a popular ideal, but it is time to blow this team up and start over. I had rather see a 3-13 team that has the draft picks to start building a quality young team rather than an 8-8 team with an aging core . This core also have contracts that kills any chance of adding needed talent. I say it is time to start trading and cutting the old vets. Take the hit to the salary cap and get the dead money off the books. This team is not one or two players away. They are a whole defense away from having a top team and the offense has holes as well. The coaching staff needs to hit the road, every last one of them. This 8-8 rut has the team in a position where they don't get top talent in the draft and the scouting department is not good enough to find the hidden talent. How many more years should the fanbase cling to this very average core of players?

Nice thought but since we are contractually married to players like Ware and Austin, moving on from "core players" is not very feasible.

This is almost an explosion proof roster at the top where you simply cannot bite the bullet and get rid of these players, even if they really wanted to.

 

[Risen Star]

Yeah I agree with that. If you're going to be willing to no be competitive, in the least, for 3-4 years then that's definately the way to go. I'm not sure how long it would take to fix your cap if you went out and blew everything up at this point. I'm not sure, cause I'm no cap genius or anything like that, what the effects of Romo, Witten, Ware, Lee, Carr, and Austins contracts would have on the cap. I'm guessing it's enough that the mess would take a few years to clean up.

I don't have any idea either about the cap. I just don't care. Whatever needs to be done to clear the books I'm for. We're not winning anything with this core of players and the cap situation being what it is.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't have any idea either about the cap. I just don't care. Whatever needs to be done to clear the books I'm for. We're not winning anything with this core of players and the cap situation being what it is.

I'm afraid I have to agree with that at this point. The problem is that I don't trust the people running the show to not screw it up again, or even worse, even if they did clean it up by blowing everything up. Part of that blowing up needs to be a brand new GM and that simply is NOT going to happen.