Time to blow it up

[TrailBlazer]

You can do it. You just can't do it with the mindset of competing next year. If you're going to rebuild, do it right. Don't worry about being competitive in 2014. That would only hold you back from building a new team.

Get the salary cap in order. Whatever it takes. I don't care if we're fielding a bunch of street free agents for a couple of years. The goal is to build a new young core that can contend in the future. Get really bad, stockpile high draft picks, flush out the salary cap mess and maybe this Cowboys team can be one emerging with a ton of youth and plenty of money to spend in a few years.

I'd sign off on that right now. It's time.

You seem to be in a panic.

Blow the team up?

Easier said than done. "Oh, Jerra, let's blow the team up and start from scratch."

Disregard contracts. Just cut ever body loose and get a new team!
Yeah, that will work! .

There is nothing wrong with this team that a solid defense can't cure. Get the defense healthy and draft mostly for the defense next year and we can do it within 2 years.

"Blow the team up" is something that occurs in the mind of the naive and fair-weathered fan.

You'd rather wait until the wheels fall completely off?

I'm sure Jerry agrees with you. So we'll get to see if you're right.

 

[Risen Star]

I'm afraid I have to agree with that at this point. The problem is that I don't trust the people running the show to not screw it up again, or even worse, even if they did clean it up by blowing everything up. Part of that blowing up needs to be a brand new GM and that simply is NOT going to happen.

Not a new GM, but maybe at least a Parcells type who has some real authority.

I don't know. I'm trying to think positive about it.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Not a new GM, but maybe at least a Parcells type who has some real authority.

I don't know. I'm trying to think positive about it.

Maybe something like that could fix it all. That's a possibility. Who though? It's going to have to be a pretty short list of people you'd want to put in that role.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Really? I have been s fan for over 40 years. Through the good times and bad. It comes a point that even the blind has to realize that something is not working. Do you really want to cling to a core group of older, overpayed players that has been nothing but average ? It is naive to think that a solid defense will be built without some major changes. It will take much more than a good draft. It will take several good drafts. Did you miss the game last night? Did you miss the other games this year when very average QBs looked like they were part of the Manning family? Why cling to a core group that hasn't produced? This group has made there run over the last few years and have came up short. I guess Jimmy Johnson was naive.

I am equally mindful of how the 'Boys half played since Jimma left Dallas to go fish and half fun in Florida.
My point -- to you -- is that loose talk of blowing up a team is just that, loose. Such a transformation does not happen in real life, save Jimma's blowing up Landry's team in 1990.
I, too, would like to start from scratch. But I know that is not possible. And you should, too.

If you do think it can be done, you would be mired in court battles for the next 10 years over contracts and such.
Tell me you were kidding. If you were not, you do not live in the real world.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You'd rather wait until the wheels fall completely off?

I'm sure Jerry agrees with you. So we'll get to see if you're right.

While you were dancing the mambo with Joey Heatherton I was watching Monday's game.
Guess what, the wheel HALF come off.

My point, and it has evaded another poster here, is that "blowing up a team" is much easier said than done. Something about contracts and labor agreements and available players and such.

I am, too, for "blowing up the team," it is just that in this reality-driven world, it doesn't and won't happen that way. So maybe the operative word is "rebuild." Because blowing up a team just isn't done. And you should know that.

 

[jnday]

I am equally mindful of how the 'Boys half played since Jimma left Dallas to go fish and half fun in Florida.
My point -- to you -- is that loose talk of blowing up a team is just that, loose. Such a transformation does not happen in real life, save Jimma's blowing up Landry's team in 1990.
I, too, would like to start from scratch. But I know that is not possible. And you should, too.

If you do think it can be done, you would be mired in court battles for the next 10 years over contracts and such.
Tell me you were kidding. If you were not, you do not live in the real world.

Players are cut everyday and there is no court battles. It would be a massive amount of dead money hitting the cap which in turn would result in a very bad team over the course of the next years. The blowup would take a year or two, but it would clear the books to start over.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Players are cut everyday and there is no court battles. It would be a massive amount of dead money hitting the cap which in turn would result in a very bad team over the course of the next years. The blowup would take a year or two, but it would clear the books to start over.

Now you are mentioning years, which is a lot more reasonable and logical and realistic.
Carry on, my good man.

 

[TrailBlazer]

While you were dancing the mambo with Joey Heatherton I was watching Monday's game.
Guess what, the wheel HALF come off.

My point, and it has evaded another poster here, is that "blowing up a team" is much easier said than done. Something about contracts and labor agreements and available players and such.

I am, too, for "blowing up the team," it is just that in this reality-driven world, it doesn't and won't happen that way. So maybe the operative word is "rebuild." Because blowing up a team just isn't done. And you should know that.

Lol mambo. No I watched the entire game to the point it became comedy.
I was assuming 'blow it up' means 'rebuild'.
We're not going to be competitive doing things the way we have been doing things. It's the definition of insanity. Rebuild seems like the fastest and most effective way to get back to being contenders.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Lol mambo. No I watched the entire game to the point it became comedy.
I was assuming 'blow it up' means 'rebuild'.
We're not going to be competitive doing things the way we have been doing things. It's the definition of insanity. Rebuild seems like the fastest and most effective way to get back to being contenders.

Yes, words, or phrases without careful crafting, can lead to confusion and conflagrations. Wars between nations half started on such misunderstandings.
I would say that few people here are opposed to rebuilding. My first reaction, as a perennial Cowboys fan is yes, blow it up! But then reality and stuff take hold and I know that rebuilding is the way.
You, too, carry on my good man.

And what do you half against the mambo? Farmers Branch is known for its adroit square dancers but maybe in the distant future we'll one day see world-renowned teams of mambo dancers coming out of Farmers Branch, except we won't let Victor Cruz into the club.

 

[CowboyFan4Eva]

Jerry sort of "blew it up" before, when he bought the franchise, and fired Landry.........and it took a few years, But then we had a dynasty and maybe the most talented , tough, hardnosed, well coached,, football team ever built......

Schramm and Landry and that crew were holding on to older days and the game was passing them by. They got old...they got stale.

And now, Jerry is old........and he needs to go......or he needs to bring in a big name coach and let the guy run the team.

If we lose down the stretch again this year, which everybody on the nfl planet knows we will, and Jerry continues to run his team, it would be like spitting in cowboys fans faces. On the city. The city, the fans, the state of Texas needs to put Jerry in his place.......it's disgusting.....

 

[Risen Star]

Maybe something like that could fix it all. That's a possibility. Who though? It's going to have to be a pretty short list of people you'd want to put in that role.

Mike Holmgren is the most logical candidate.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Mike Holmgren is the most logical candidate.

Interesting. I'm not sure if he can do anything to fix what Jerry messes up though. I'm all for trying anything though because what they're doing clearly isn't working.

 

[Vanilla2]

The people who are saying they'd put up with 3-13 over 8-8 are lying to themselves as much as they're lying to us.

Also there's no guarantee for a quick turnaround after that type of season or seasons.

 

[SWG9]

Not a new GM, but maybe at least a Parcells type who has some real authority.

I don't know. I'm trying to think positive about it.

I've thought about this a lot. To my mind, there is only one realistic (yet very bleak) path forward for this franchise.

Blow everything up as you say. Jones will of course insist on trying to pull the rebuild off himself. I fully expect the Cowboys to average double digit losses for as long as Jones attempts this, and knowing his ego, it could easily be 8-10 years.

After this prolonged period in the desert, I think Jones might finally...FINALLY...start to realize that the only way he'll win another Superbowl before passing is to hand things off to someone who knows what they're doing.

I expect Jones to run this core into the ground, and I expect them to average 8-8 over the next 3-4 seasons. At that point the salary cap bill will finally come due, and we'll have a godawful team for 2-3 years, followed by a terrible team for another 6-7 years.

Then we might have a chance. And that's me being positive.