Time to move on from Moore

[john van brocklin]

Sad but likely true. Jerry and son are hardly the ones to admit to former mistakes unless everyone alive turns on them. Even then, it's doubtful.

We are in a bad way here as fans.
The future is looking bleak as we have amateurs running the team.

 

[Cmac]

I had hopes that we'd allow Malik Davis to take the reins to continue the running game after Pollard went down. Evidently, Moore didn't have the wherewithal to submit to utilizing a rookie. If that wasn't enough, the last play of the game with Zeke running up the middle of the 49ers d-line really was "dump," just as Jimmy Johnson exclaimed lately. He's done that many times over the duration of the season to no avail. That was the last straw for me. last straw, as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry but there must be someone better than that out there to take over for KM.

......you mean the last play of the game with Zeke snapping the ball.....and OL lining up like WRs.....that play was absolutely DUMB. That play? The play that KMoore should be ripped continually for......just to illustrate it would only work in a Pee Wee league game because "Junior" would be bigger & faster than the other kids. It was DUMB.

 

[infamousstyles]

When things go wrong: blame Moore.

When things go right: credit Dak.

You guys are pathetic.

I see plenty of blame going to dak and deservedly so... but kellen moore has consistently called head scratching plays at crucial times. A 5 wr empty back field set when you only need two yards can't be explained. The guy has no situational awareness and doesn't understand what to call in the moments that matter. I do not believe that changes if he has any other QB under center. Just like I've seen enough of dak to know his ceiling, I've seen enough of kellen to know he's not helping either.

 

[Bullflop]

......you mean the last play of the game with Zeke snapping the ball.....and OL lining up like WRs.....that play was absolutely DUMB. That play? The play that KMoore should be ripped continually for......just to illustrate it would only work in a Pee Wee league game because "Junior" would be bigger & faster than the other kids. It was DUMB.

I'm referring to the play where Moore called a run up the middle by Zeke and it was stopped short of the goal line. That was predictable.

 

[nobody]

We can win with Dak and a formula. You have to stick with it. Moore refuses..

If Dak had played ANY better, we'd have won. That game was lost by Dak.. Moore had some questionable playcalls, but receivers were open all game and Dak was focused only on CD and Schultz for the most part. Moore can't be held responsible for Dak's panic. Dak has to perform. Do I want to keep Moore? No. But Dak CAN'T win, formula or not. He proved it a couple of years in a row now. choke choke choke.

 

[Gaede]

I thought Moore did a nice job calling plays this year. The offense does seem a bit antiquated, though, like it's still JGs system.

 

[Cmac]

I'm referring to the play where Moore called a run up the middle by Zeke and it was stopped short of the goal line. That was predictable.

.....in that case.....Would you have any interest in addressing OL blocking then, perhaps the "power packages" or would that simply get dismissed......it works hand in hand? Just sayin'. KMoore looks for ways to get away from a running game. SF had low yardage in the game......but because they continued with such, there were several runs that gashed us, at times.....making the running game effective enough to win during "money time". OC and OL coach need to be addressed but it will not happen.

 

[USArmyVet]

I see plenty of blame going to dak and deservedly so... but kellen moore has consistently called head scratching plays at crucial times. A 5 wr empty back field set when you only need two yards can't be explained. The guy has no situational awareness and doesn't understand what to call in the moments that matter. I do not believe that changes if he has any other QB under center. Just like I've seen enough of dak to know his ceiling, I've seen enough of kellen to know he's not helping either.

The question is how do we know Dak isn't changing the play in the huddle?

 

[Bullflop]

.....in that case.....Would you have any interest in addressing OL blocking then, perhaps the "power packages" or would that simply get dismissed......it works hand in hand? Just sayin'. KMoore looks for ways to get away from a running game. SF had low yardage in the game......but because they continued with such, there were several runs that gashed us, at times.....making the running game effective enough to win during "money time". OC and OL coach need to be addressed but it will not happen.

Yes, that would be sweet if the OL were destined to improve, although, there are a number of things that should be addressed. Personally, I think Moore's presence with the Cowboys has its good and bad points. Enough bad points to cause many here to feel he needs to learn that sending a RB up the middle vs. a team whose DL is excellent probably isn't a good idea in moments of desperation. He does it often. Not good, just dumb.

 

[glimmerman]

On the 2 and 2 play all he had to do is throw the ball away in stead, he threw to a guy that was covered and it got picked.

All on Dak.

Agreed. He gets plenty of blame. Was a dumb play. He could have rolled out and took it himself.

 

[glimmerman]

The question is how do we know Dak isn't changing the play in the huddle?

Yep. I agree. I have heard he changes plays. Most QB do call audibles but how many or often and is it from run plays to pass. If he is checking out of the run that many times then MM needs to address that.

 

[Xeven]

It would be interesting to see Dak play under a different OC that is not from Garret lineage since we are stuck with Dak for awhile.

 

[Cmac]

I'm referring to the play where Moore called a run up the middle by Zeke and it was stopped short of the goal line. That was predictable.

Also.....because our OC and his schemes grasp ways to quickly abandon the run........if we ever get a consistent run-blocking line......it will come a time when the team says we are going to run, and you know we're going to run.......and we're still going to gash you. This team doesn't have that mentality. OL needs work, for sure.....but coaches are SOFT or simply don't want to instill that in the players. We need some "Dawgs" on our line. I miss our former OLs......Big E, Nate, Gogan, Tuinei, etc.....mainly for their attitude. (they had DL crying to the refs after maulings).

We're a finness team now.....soft and pass-happy. Thanks KMoore & Philbin. When the running game fails now......simply blame Zeke and overlook the OL failures.

 

[Staubacher]

I see plenty of blame going to dak and deservedly so... but kellen moore has consistently called head scratching plays at crucial times. A 5 wr empty back field set when you only need two yards can't be explained. The guy has no situational awareness and doesn't understand what to call in the moments that matter. I do not believe that changes if he has any other QB under center. Just like I've seen enough of dak to know his ceiling, I've seen enough of kellen to know he's not helping either.

He did scheme guys wide open for long TDs at least 3 times in the game. Dak ignored one and underthrew the other two.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sorry but he just can’t stay with the formula. After playing a good game the week before and being balanced he abandons the run once again. We have Malik and he can play. No excuse after Pollard went down.

It’s a team game and you put Dak throwing 37 times and run 16 times. Meanwhile the other team runs 28 and pass 29.

Our Defense played good enough to win. Our Offense floundered. Dak could have played better but we could have helped by running the call.

This is not just a Moore and Dak thing,
This was a major problem before Moore or Dak was even here,
This has been happening since the Tuna Left.

 

[glimmerman]

This is not just a Moore and Dak thing,
This was a major problem before Moore or Dak was even here,
This has been happening since the Tuna Left.

This is not just a Moore and Dak thing,
This was a major problem before Moore or Dak was even here,
This has been happening since the Tuna Left.

You mean like someone that can’t keep his hands out of things.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Sorry but he just can’t stay with the formula. After playing a good game the week before and being balanced he abandons the run once again. We have Malik and he can play. No excuse after Pollard went down.

It’s a team game and you put Dak throwing 37 times and run 16 times. Meanwhile the other team runs 28 and pass 29.

Our Defense played good enough to win. Our Offense floundered. Dak could have played better but we could have helped by running the call.

I don't have much trust in Malik. he has had spot duties, in clean up games just finishing up the game after its been decided. he hasn't played much meaningful minutes and so to trust him upon in a game like that...that's risky.
but that's why you paid Zeke and made him highest paid player for him to be the main horse, and he isn't. this is the GM's fault.
and that pass/run ratio balance is what we want. should have and been successful for us. I hate it when moore gets cute. sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. inside your redzone area, 2nd and 2 and your pass the ball and not only that, you call a side line route for a gain of 6 yards....either take a deep shot, or force the issue, run it and get the first down. you have two downs to get two yards.

our defense did play well over all. but missed opportunities too. specially Diggs. he had a really bad game. he dropped a sure interception, that allowed them to score. and he whiffed. I mean whiffed on hitting kittle and not allowing him to make that catch, which was another critical play he missed. you are a dang defensive player. your job is to tackle and hit and you shy away from it. that's why he is not a top CB and I don't want to break the bank to resign him. not worth it for him to disappear in the biggest game we have had in 28 years. played small in a big moment.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

You mean like someone that can’t keep his hands out of things.

I think Bill was the last coach that would tell the QBs to knock it off and get back to the run game.

I think the OCs and the QBs (romo and dak) have been given too much power to change plays and get pass happy,

 

[NumOneQB]

You have to make a change that can make an impact. There’s no effect on the cap either with an OC swap. You might as well. Forget the regular season stats…..

 

[infamousstyles]

The question is how do we know Dak isn't changing the play in the huddle?

Could be either way honestly. But that's kinda where I hate the position Mike McCarthy is in (or has been taking). This hands off approach of the offense doesn't help our situational football problem. I don't think that the QB, Head Coach, or OC fit as puzzle pieces and this is why our ceiling is what it is.