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,,,er,,,:confused:,,,ya!, valid point of vectored perspective,,,Man, I didn't know the #9's scalp was gonna be flopped out like this,BRO!,,, :facepalm:

I am certainly no Cap GURU but it looks like Dak makes 700k a year and Romo made 17 million . Not trying to scalp Romo just saying I think we have gotten real good value for our money with Dak and more importantly it gave us the money to build a great defense that can close out games .

Romos Salary made it tough to pay for a real elite Defense and as a result that part of our team let us down on many an occasion. So when Dak makes in a year what Romo made a game Im inclined to cut Dak some slack and give him some time to mature before I get overly critical
 

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I am certainly no Cap GURU but it looks like Dak makes 700k a year and Romo made 17 million . Not trying to scalp Romo just saying I think we have gotten real good value for our money with Dak and more importantly it gave us the money to build a great defense that can close out games .

Romos Salary made it tough to pay for a real elite Defense and as a result that part of our team let us down on many an occasion. So when Dak makes in a year what Romo made a game Im inclined to cut Dak some slack and give him some time to mature before I get overly critical
Problem I'll forever Harbour in that line of rationale my friend, is that the $17million per Year #9, given the war material The #4 has thus far been frittering away like Hitler's 6th Army in Stalingrad, would've Proved a frickin' bargain, BY NOWo_O



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Man! This #9 v.s. #4 fuzzy dust-up, really ain't my bag,Baby!
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Agreed there is defiantly a group of fans that grew tired of Romo and embrace Dak . I was a big Romo fan and living in the Philly area took a beating over it. Eventually I grew tired of the gambling gunslinger style and yearned for a power running game and I guy who didn't opt out of the run all the time because he liked throwing it .
I embraced Dak because although not as talented as Tony he did everything in his skillset to win not just what he liked doing and he could take NFL hits and continue leading the team .
He is our QB now I see much potential if he is given proper coaching and time to mature I am supporting him

This is somewhat myself as well. I couldn't stand his gun slinging mentality. I sometimes overlooked the good things he did because I always felt here comes that pick or fumble. Just as I started to embrace him for everything he was then he couldn't stay on the field.So i was ready for another QB. I really wanted the boys to move up for a top tier QB in the draft but am happy with Dak.

The biggest issue I have with the Romo era is the constant elevation of a man who didn't get us any farther than our current QB. The if it wasn't for Romo we would be a 1-15 team etc. as if he didnt have team mates. Regardless he was great for the organization. The puncture lung game will forever be etched in romo fans minds. The he gave his all so you need to love him regardless of the end results.

I also agree with the financial things that Romo's contract hampered us from doing a better team around him. he wasn't the only contract though.
 

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[B said:
When you see him take off and get a 1st down running..

when you see him score from 10 yards out..

you realize where his value is[/B].

That's like saying "Man that Amari Cooper can't catch but he sure can block", blocking is good to have as a talent but the main thing a wr does is catch the football and he can't do that then he won't be here no matter how good he blocks. If Dak can't become a top flight passer then who cares how good he runs.
 

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Dak has 5 ints and 5 lost fumbles this season total of 10 TOs Wentz has 9 TOs 6 int and 3 lost fumbles .

Goff also has 6 Ints with 4 lost fumbles #1 picks who would have thought Dak would be right there with them
Lets go to some Elite big money guys Rodgers has 5 lost fumbles , Wilson has 5 Ints and 5 lost fumbles Cousins has 7 Ints and 5 lost fumbles , Ryan has 5 INts and 5 lost fumbles, Luck has 11 Ints and 3 lost fumbles

The GOAT TOM BRADY has 7 ints and 4 lost fumbles How could that be more TOs than Dak??

Best yet Romo had 32 fumbles in his 1st 3 yrs and Dak only has 24.

Yes Dak absolutely has to clean this fumbling up but he is not turning the ball over by fumble or INT anymore than the top draft picks of his class or the most elite QBs in the league so the exaggerations can stop now
Yeah. Everyone makes mistakes at times.

Some (almost always non-lost) fumbles are just a QB being in the shotgun and dropping a bad snap, then immediately picking it up.

You mentioned Romo's 32 fumbles...11 were lost. Which is still too high
Dak has 24, but 12 were lost. Also too high
The LOST number is more valid for QBs due to snap issues. Not as much for RBs
 

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Dak has not improved at all . His rookie season was an accident. He had never played at the level he did his rookie season and he never will again. He has only gotten worse. Keep defending this below average QB. Dallas is only wasting some good players careers because they won’t find a decent QB.
You also criticized the Cowboys WR group before the season started. Now you’re hating on Dak? Have you watched the games since Cooper was signed? Obviously not. SMH. :facepalm:
 

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Dak has not improved at all . His rookie season was an accident. He had never played at the level he did his rookie season and he never will again. He has only gotten worse. Keep defending this below average QB. Dallas is only wasting some good players careers because they won’t find a decent QB.

Where exactly do we find the perfect franchise QB as we have seen unless its the 1st couple picks the draft is a complete crapshoot and then you have to finish in the tank to get one of those picks . Even then there is no Guarantee

We don't have a 1st rd pick so now we would really be reaching in the draft . Or do we try and sign a high priced FA and not be able to pay the key players on defense. They wont waste there careers here they will be playing somewhere else.

NO THANKS I have watched a no talent defense struggle along enough while we paid Romo a fortune to be injured and broadcast .
Dak costs us nothing lets try and develop him and let him mature so we have enough to pay the rest of the team and can close out games instead of watching some heartbreaking INT or the D not be able to finish because of lack of talent
 

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That's like saying "Man that Amari Cooper can't catch but he sure can block", blocking is good to have as a talent but the main thing a wr does is catch the football and he can't do that then he won't be here no matter how good he blocks. If Dak can't become a top flight passer then who cares how good he runs.

Its not just being a Passer . Its being a QB THE TOTAL PACKAGE. A guy who can follow the game plan , not worried about individual Statistics , or proving he can shoot it out with Drew Brees . A guy who can put the team on his back and do whatever is necessary to win , A leader that puts team accomplishments ahead of his own . A guy that's in shape and built to take the pounding of the NFL and get back up and finish the game
 

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Anything to make this dude seem serviceable. Even comparing him to QB's that are infinitely better than he is. See this is when you get classified as a homer.
 

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You also criticized the Cowboys WR group before the season started. Now you’re hating on Dak? Have you watched the games since Cooper was signed? Obviously not. SMH. :facepalm:
The group was horrible without Cooper. I guess I was right. Cooper’s talents will never truly show with a QB that is inaccurate. I have watched Dak since high school. I have always said that he is a great kid, but he doesn’t have the talent to be a starting NFL QB. He has been inaccurate his whole time playing QB and he has never had good pocket awareness. He is the same QB now that he was as a freshman in college. Dallas will look back a few years from now and see that they have wasted a decade on a below average QB.
 

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I am certainly no Cap GURU but it looks like Dak makes 700k a year and Romo made 17 million . Not trying to scalp Romo just saying I think we have gotten real good value for our money with Dak and more importantly it gave us the money to build a great defense that can close out games .

Romos Salary made it tough to pay for a real elite Defense and as a result that part of our team let us down on many an occasion. So when Dak makes in a year what Romo made a game Im inclined to cut Dak some slack and give him some time to mature before I get overly critical
This is a great way of looking at it. Let’s keep a below average QB because a good QB costs too much. Jerry is dumb enough to pay Dak big money and it’s about to happen. Is Dak going to be a bargain at 15-20 million a year?
 

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Agreed there is defiantly a group of fans that grew tired of Romo and embrace Dak . I was a big Romo fan and living in the Philly area took a beating over it. Eventually I grew tired of the gambling gunslinger style and yearned for a power running game and I guy who didn't opt out of the run all the time because he liked throwing it .
I embraced Dak because although not as talented as Tony he did everything in his skillset to win not just what he liked doing and he could take NFL hits and continue leading the team .
He is our QB now I see much potential if he is given proper coaching and time to mature I am supporting him
'Grew tired'.

No one, including professional athletes, is above criticism. Excessive criticism based on fallacies is another matter entirely. Romo was on the receiving end of excessive criticism and Prescott is currently getting the same unfair treatment. Personally, it is just curious for me seeing some members flip-flop their personal pros and cons from either player and take a self-position of justification in the face of sheer contradiction.

I 'get' individuals' perspectives that either did/do not appreciate Romo and Prescott or did/do appreciate Romo and Prescott. The 'Romo Good/Prescott Bad' and 'Romo Bad/Prescott Good' perspectives? Well. Those are fascinating. Regardless, I hope Prescott much success since his success benefits the franchise. Hopefully, Prescott will learn from Romo how to ignore fan nonsense equally as well.
 

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Its not just being a Passer . Its being a QB THE TOTAL PACKAGE. A guy who can follow the game plan , not worried about individual Statistics , or proving he can shoot it out with Drew Brees . A guy who can put the team on his back and do whatever is necessary to win , A leader that puts team accomplishments ahead of his own . A guy that's in shape and built to take the pounding of the NFL and get back up and finish the game

Uhhhh....you mean a bus driver?
 

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Professional contracts, especially in football, are based almost entirely on the value placed upon the player's worth to the current franchise versus both the perceived value of other franchises have for the player and expected future contributions from said player. Contracts have far FAR less to do with how fans evaluate the worth of a player.

A contract's dollar amount is based on the former. Not the latter. Any insanity some fans place on the $$$ of a contract and 'blame' the player is totally misplaced.

Romo got paid. His contract had somewhat of a tangible detrimental impact on the franchise's salary cap. However, he got paid what Jones thought he should pay him in order to retain his services. If anyone should faced fans' irrational displeasure over Romo's contract, it should have been Jones. Speaking of which...

In my opinion, it is 99% assured Prescott will get paid within the next eight months. Guess what? Some people will never still not understand how professional contracts are finalized and their first reaction after getting the details of Prescott's new contract shall be "What the <expletive>?" Guess what part deux? Prescott's contract may have somewhat of a tangible detrimental impact on the franchise's salary cap.

So. Do not hate the playa. Hate the game. Or at the very least some people should consider not doing a Romo on Prescott this time around.

Or better yet do as I did over a decade ago and rant continuously about ending the salary cap altogether! Those were good times. :) Good times. :(
 

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Where exactly do we find the perfect franchise QB as we have seen unless its the 1st couple picks the draft is a complete crapshoot and then you have to finish in the tank to get one of those picks . Even then there is no Guarantee

We don't have a 1st rd pick so now we would really be reaching in the draft . Or do we try and sign a high priced FA and not be able to pay the key players on defense. They wont waste there careers here they will be playing somewhere else.

NO THANKS I have watched a no talent defense struggle along enough while we paid Romo a fortune to be injured and broadcast .
Dak costs us nothing lets try and develop him and let him mature so we have enough to pay the rest of the team and can close out games instead of watching some heartbreaking INT or the D not be able to finish because of lack of talent
There will be no drafting of a QB this draft. The better QB prospects are in the draft with Tua. I refuse to accept a subpar QB when there will be an opportunity to draft a great one. Dak is going to cost millions as soon as Jerry signs him to the extension this offseason. Will he be a bargain when he is paid 15+ million a year? Great thinking. Dallas should keep a bum because good QBs cost too much.
 

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The group was horrible without Cooper. I guess I was right. Cooper’s talents will never truly show with a QB that is inaccurate. I have watched Dak since high school. I have always said that he is a great kid, but he doesn’t have the talent to be a starting NFL QB. He has been inaccurate his whole time playing QB and he has never had good pocket awareness. He is the same QB now that he was as a freshman in college. Dallas will look back a few years from now and see that they have wasted a decade on a below average QB.
What’s his record as a starting NFL QB? 29-15? I guess you are wrong about him not having the talent to be a starting NFL QB.
 

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'Grew tired'.

No one, including professional athletes, is above criticism. Excessive criticism based on fallacies is another matter entirely. Romo was on the receiving end of excessive criticism and Prescott is currently getting the same unfair treatment. Personally, it is just curious for me seeing some members flip-flop their personal pros and cons from either player and take a self-position of justification in the face of sheer contradiction.

I 'get' individuals' perspectives that either did/do not appreciate Romo and Prescott or did/do appreciate Romo and Prescott. The 'Romo Good/Prescott Bad' and 'Romo Bad/Prescott Good' perspectives? Well. Those are fascinating. Regardless, I hope Prescott much success since his success benefits the franchise. Hopefully, Prescott will learn from Romo how to ignore fan nonsense equally as well.

I subscribe to the Romo Gone /Prescott could be good if give the chance perspective . But yes I have grown tired of people building the legend of Tony Romo into something it never was in an attempt to discredit Dak
 

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There will be no drafting of a QB this draft. The better QB prospects are in the draft with Tua. I refuse to accept a subpar QB when there will be an opportunity to draft a great one. Dak is going to cost millions as soon as Jerry signs him to the extension this offseason. Will he be a bargain when he is paid 15+ million a year? Great thinking. Dallas should keep a bum because good QBs cost too much.
No one gives one crap what you accept, lol.
Dallas Cowboys fans are enjoying wins and have been for 3 years under Dak as QB.
Be gone peasant.
 
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