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Romo 2 Austin;4093033 said:
Shawn Michaels and Flair are universally accepted as the top 2. Sorry you dont agree, but not everyone is required to agree with your OPINION. Sorry the majority doesnt seem to agree with you.

And not everyone is required to view yours. Cause at the end of the day, when you talk about who is top 5 all-time, It really boils down to who you grew up watching. There are many people who would consider Andre the Giant in the top 5, but you probably have never seen him wrestle live, does that make them wrong? Anyone can go find a magazine article, or a blog, or a website that supports there views. It means nothing, people are entitled to there opinion, you don't like it, ignore it. But to call someone out on arguing there opinion over yours, is kinda pointless don't ya think?
 

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dargonking999;4093526 said:
And not everyone is required to view yours. Cause at the end of the day, when you talk about who is top 5 all-time, It really boils down to who you grew up watching. There are many people who would consider Andre the Giant in the top 5, but you probably have never seen him wrestle live, does that make them wrong? Anyone can go find a magazine article, or a blog, or a website that supports there views. It means nothing, people are entitled to there opinion, you don't like it, ignore it. But to call someone out on arguing there opinion over yours, is kinda pointless don't ya think?

Its all opinion.. but i would say it boils down to more than just who you grew up watching. I only saw Flair work toward the end of his career, didn't see him at all in the 80's when he was really making himself into the legend he is today, but id still say he's without a doubt top 5.
 

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RoyTheHammer;4093609 said:
Its all opinion.. but i would say it boils down to more than just who you grew up watching. I only saw Flair work toward the end of his career, didn't see him at all in the 80's when he was really making himself into the legend he is today, but id still say he's without a doubt top 5.

So if you never saw him, you would consider him a top 5, without ever having seen him work? Over someone that you have seen work there entire career?
 

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dargonking999;4093614 said:
So if you never saw him, you would consider him a top 5, without ever having seen him work? Over someone that you have seen work there entire career?

There is thing thing called Youtube.com, aswell as DVD's. I've seen a ton of flair matches. I've seen everything I could from HBK.
 

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Hostile;4093056 said:
You really need to not share your wrestling views.

Just advice.

Most of my wrestling views are the popular ones, besides my preference for wrestling over entertainment. oh wait.. Thats popular too amongst Wrestling fans.

HBK & Flair are 1 and 2, and if you list anyone else as 1 or 2 i'd love to debate it as it's a debate you can not win, you could list Bret Hart, ill say he was stale on the mic. you could say Andre and i'll say greatest big man of the previous era, but no hes' not on the same level as Flair or HBK. He couldn't work those type of matches.

Only people that come close since entertainment as become a big part of wrestling, as you can't compare Bob Backland to HBK are Kurt Angle, The Rock & Bruiser Brody.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;4093622 said:
There is thing thing called Youtube.com, aswell as DVD's. I've seen a ton of flair matches. I've seen everything I could from HBK.

Thats all fine and dandy but have you watched all the WWE superstars from the last 40 years? I doubt it, when you started watching wrestling you saw and liked HBK and Flair, so yes of course later you would go back and watch there matches, but what about the ones before them? What about the ones you didn't like? It's easy to sit back and proclaim the guys you like as top wrestlers. I could easily say that Rock was the best entertainer in WWE history, because I watched all his promo's and seen everything he did, but that dosen't mean I watched anyone else's. Your opinion is what it is, an opinion it is not a fact, it is not a understandable conclusion, it is an opinion. Understand that, and leave at that.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;4093626 said:
Most of my wrestling views are the popular ones, besides my preference for wrestling over entertainment. oh wait.. Thats popular too amongst Wrestling fans.

HBK & Flair are 1 and 2, and if you list anyone else as 1 or 2 i'd love to debate it as it's a debate you can not win, you could list Bret Hart, ill say he was stale on the mic. you could say Andre and i'll say greatest big man of the previous era, but no hes' not on the same level as Flair or HBK. He couldn't work those type of matches.

Only people that come close since entertainment as become a big part of wrestling, as you can't compare Bob Backland to HBK are Kurt Angle, The Rock & Bruiser Brody.

THis is why you fail so much, and get talked about so much. None of this is fact, None of this means anything to anyone. It is an opinion, you can debate your opinion all-day, doesn't make it right, dosen't make it wrong. You seriously need to learn how to RESPECT other people's opinions and thoughts. Learn from your past, or your doomed to repeat it. Learn, cause all you're doing now is repeating
 

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dargonking999;4093635 said:
Thats all fine and dandy but have you watched all the WWE superstars from the last 40 years? I doubt it, when you started watching wrestling you saw and liked HBK and Flair, so yes of course later you would go back and watch there matches, but what about the ones before them? What about the ones you didn't like? It's easy to sit back and proclaim the guys you like as top wrestlers. I could easily say that Rock was the best entertainer in WWE history, because I watched all his promo's and seen everything he did, but that dosen't mean I watched anyone else's. Your opinion is what it is, an opinion it is not a fact, it is not a understandable conclusion, it is an opinion. Understand that, and leave at that.

Rock is. There is a answer for everything, and im not trying to be a jerk.

Lets bring this to football. Roger & Troy are the two best cowboys QBs of all time. Sure weve had other good ones, but they are the best. Now have i seen every cowboy game with roger & troy playing? No. Did I see them live, very few Troy games and none with Roger. Doesnt change the fact they were the best, does it? When your a fan of something you respect its history.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;4093649 said:
Rock is. There is a answer for everything, and im not trying to be a jerk.

Lets bring this to football. Roger & Troy are the two best cowboys QBs of all time. Sure weve had other good ones, but they are the best. Now have i seen every cowboy game with roger & troy playing? No. Did I see them live, very few Troy games and none with Roger. Doesnt change the fact they were the best, does it? When your a fan of something you respect its history.

OK lets be real, thats a real bad comparsion. Roger and Troy are the only two Cowboy QB's to win Superbowls, and truthfully the only QB's that could even be thought of as competition would be Danny White, and Tony Romo, neither of which is.

You can respect something's history all=day long, doesn't mean that your opinion is right, or fact. Andre the Giant in his era was the best performer there was. Am i right? Maybe, could it be argued? Defiantly. Thats the way opinions go.
 

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dargonking999;4093657 said:
OK lets be real, thats a real bad comparsion. Roger and Troy are the only two Cowboy QB's to win Superbowls, and truthfully the only QB's that could even be thought of as competition would be Danny White, and Tony Romo, neither of which is.

You can respect something's history all=day long, doesn't mean that your opinion is right, or fact. Andre the Giant in his era was the best performer there was. Am i right? Maybe, could it be argued? Defiantly. Thats the way opinions go.
Im sure there are better examples, but it works.

Andre is a very good choice. I'd go with Brusier Brody from that era, but thats an opinion as you say.

Who would you take as the top 2 of all time?
 

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Romo 2 Austin;4093670 said:
Im sure there are better examples, but it works.

Andre is a very good choice. I'd go with Brusier Brody from that era, but thats an opinion as you say.

Who would you take as the top 2 of all time?

THe rock and mankind
 

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zrinkill;4093707 said:
Kurt Angle Says He's Signed A New TNA Contract

During a recent interview, Kurt Angle says that he has signed a new three year deal with TNA.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2011/0908/544063/kurt-angle/

Pre DUI I would say good for you Kurt. He would be someone that would be worthy of a new contract. Post DUI I am going to say that he needs help & hopefully he has made arrangements to get help. We will obviously see how it all pans out.
 

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dargonking999;4093674 said:
THe rock and mankind

You see I really wouldn't argue with you. I said the most popular choices would be HBK & Flair, but both Rock and Mick Foley are fair choices. They are undoubtedly in anyones top 10 so it's fair enough.

I think you were thinking I was applying an ultimate opinion, but really I was just trying to say that Angle deserves to be up in that discussion. Flair, HBK, anyone will put them in the top 7, unless they are like 10 years old and have only seen 62 year old flair in TNA saying he is a god, but anyone who was watched wrestling for a good length of time has HBK and Flair up there.. Same with Angle, I believe with Angle history will think of him more highly than we do of him now. He has it all, hes as good as HBK in the ring and as good as anyone on the mic. Hell he may endup as the greatest of all time if he has another WWE run, or TNA continues to grow at a rate of which will bring Angle back into global-renown.
 

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zrinkill;4093707 said:
Kurt Angle Says He's Signed A New TNA Contract

During a recent interview, Kurt Angle says that he has signed a new three year deal with TNA.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2011/0908/544063/kurt-angle/

I believe that interview was a few months ago.. he posted on twitter in like may "im stickin with TNA.. Signed a 3 and a half year contract.. God bless" or something along those lines. If that interview was 3 months ago and the story is breaking now thats just sad on the part of the sites.. Pwinsider broke it too.
 

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dargonking999;4093638 said:
THis is why you fail so much, and get talked about so much. None of this is fact, None of this means anything to anyone. It is an opinion, you can debate your opinion all-day, doesn't make it right, dosen't make it wrong. You seriously need to learn how to RESPECT other people's opinions and thoughts. Learn from your past, or your doomed to repeat it. Learn, cause all you're doing now is repeating
This is EXACTLY what I meant by the advice I gave. He is so offensive to talk to about it that people literally can't stand him. I avoid the wrestling threads now for the most part and it is ENTIRELY because of his "popular opinions."
 

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Romo 2 Austin;4093649 said:
Rock is. There is a answer for everything, and im not trying to be a jerk.

Lets bring this to football. Roger & Troy are the two best cowboys QBs of all time. Sure weve had other good ones, but they are the best. Now have i seen every cowboy game with roger & troy playing? No. Did I see them live, very few Troy games and none with Roger. Doesnt change the fact they were the best, does it? When your a fan of something you respect its history.
Mission fail.
 

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Hostile;4094267 said:
This is EXACTLY what I meant by the advice I gave. He is so offensive to talk to about it that people literally can't stand him. I avoid the wrestling threads now for the most part and it is ENTIRELY because of his "popular opinions."

Now im not the only one in these threads that are is offensive.
 

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Hostile;4094304 said:
That makes what you do okay?

No sir.

No, but I wasn't the one who started throwing the shots at each other. But I will be the one to stop first. Starting now.
 
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