TNF: Green Bay vs Detroit

Wayne02 said:
The Lions also got away with a blatant defensive pass interference on the play before the face mask call that would've put GB in field goal position. The Lions didn't get screwed, they lost.
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Right!! The PI was such a miss. The Lions just did Lions things
 
I was watching a replay of the winning pass .. GB will not reveal that.. but I think they did a smart thing that no one is paying attention to..

If you focus on the end zone .. the three GB players were pushing deep in the end zone and kind of creating a wall/shield around the area where they expect the ball will land inholding Detroit players behind/blocked .. that shield would allow a late GB player to arrive in that area and EASILY catch it ..
Pretty neat if you ask me . GB will not admit it .. but I bet this was planned and good for them on great execution

:cool:
 
ChldsPlay said:
Do they? Did they come out and say it was a facemask or are you just making that up?
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Uh, they said it was a facemask IN THE GAME!!!
The replay shows he brushes the facemask enough to twist it.

How's that for "just making that up"? :laugh:
 
HoustonFrog said:
So you really think that Rodgers, just for fun while trying to win a game, whipped his head sideways because of air? Now you are just making stuff up. The guy hit the mask. You can call it what you want but in today's NFL in real time that is getting called face mask or hands to the QBs helmet if it was him in the pocket. It happens EVERY game. If you don't know that then your living in a shell. But what should I expect, you think DBs turning their head give them the right to tackle people
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The length people will go to prove they're right even if the evidence not only doesn't support them but slaps them several times in the face along the way. :laugh:
 
tyke1doe said:
The length people will go to prove they're right even if the evidence not only doesn't support them but slaps them several times in the face along the way. :laugh:
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LOL. Right. Though I believe they now took down that definitive video because it was NFL property. Its floating though

Here it is high-res..thumb hooks inside facemask, comes out, goes to shoulder...head turns with thumb

http://gfycat.com/FamousHugeBrownbutterfly
 
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Wayne02 said:
The Lions also got away with a blatant defensive pass interference on the play before the face mask call that would've put GB in field goal position. The Lions didn't get screwed, they lost.
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I think the WR was the one doing the blatant interfering.
 
HoustonFrog said:
So you really think that Rodgers, just for fun while trying to win a game, whipped his head sideways because of air? Now you are just making stuff up. The guy hit the mask. You can call it what you want but in today's NFL in real time that is getting called face mask or hands to the QBs helmet if it was him in the pocket. It happens EVERY game. If you don't know that then your living in a shell. But what should I expect, you think DBs turning their head give them the right to tackle people
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I am making things up? Did you read what I wrote? Then did you read what you wrote? Did I ever say anything even resembling, "Rodgers, just for fun while trying to win a game, whipped his head sideways because of air?" Or did you just make that up?

Did I say that Rodgers mask didn't get hit? No.

Did I say it wouldn't look like a facemask in real time? No. I do think this is something that should be reviewable. Refs too often call what something looks like rather than what they actually see (oh, guys head turned, must have been a facemask, instead of actually seeing the hand grab and pull).

Do you realize that Rodgers was not a QB at that point in time? He was simply a runner. Do you realize that hitting the facemask is not what brings about the penalty?

Do you realize it was the GB WR who did the tackling, or did you not watch the play?
 
tyke1doe said:
Uh, they said it was a facemask IN THE GAME!!!
The replay shows he brushes the facemask enough to twist it.

How's that for "just making that up"? :laugh:
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What they said in the game was irrelevant to what I said, and you know it.

If the refs come out and say that after looking at the replay that it was still a facemask, THEN you would have an argument with the refs agreeing with you.
 
ChldsPlay said:
I call it like I see it (as did the announcers and Mike Carey). Great no call.
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Mike Carey has been getting calls wrong all year when he's on, even after seeing the replay, his opinion isn't doesn't move me. Regardless the Packers won, and I'm glad they did because they were robbed on the non pass interference call.
 
Wayne02 said:
Mike Carey has been getting calls wrong all year when he's on, even after seeing the replay, his opinion isn't doesn't move me. Regardless the Packers won, and I'm glad they did because they were robbed on the non pass interference call.
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I agree he misses a lot, but he was right this time. The Detroit guy does make some contact while looking back, but then the GB WR wraps both arms around the DB and pulls him down. The Packers didn't get hosed on that at all.
 
ChldsPlay said:
I agree he misses a lot, but he was right this time. The Detroit guy does make some contact while looking back, but then the GB WR wraps both arms around the DB and pulls him down. The Packers didn't get hosed on that at all.
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It's all subjective, just like the calls that the guy I responded to said that he thought robbed the Lions of a victory.
 
ChldsPlay said:
Trying to post another picture doesn't reduce the foolishness of posting a picture that shows something else.
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It's a video. Also a new one right above in slow mo. When someone says something as inane as "Why the first pick with the guy's thumb touching nothing but air?" then yes I will assume you don't know rules or that the guy didn't hit the facemask because you said "nothing but air." Sorry its called reading comprehension. Even the head of officiating has said that call will be made 90% of the time if not more. Thumb hits facemask inside, head pulls....flag. It is that easy. If you want to debate replay for these, great. But last night it was a good call as seen by a majority of refs and rules officials under the current set up.

http://gfycat.com/FamousHugeBrownbutterfly
 
ChldsPlay said:
I think the WR was the one doing the blatant interfering.
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Are you talking about the right play. There was a bs PI on the Lions earlier when the WR tackled the DB from behind. In this case the guy was yanking on the arm before the head turn and locked it down. The reason they have the head turn rule is all players have a right to the ball or are considered receivers. If a DB has position and is turned, I'd agree with you. In this case, I don't because he didn't get his head around until he had already impeded the WR from making his own play. Either way, its no skin off my back. As I showed in the second pic the Lions failed by keeping 2 DBs to the sideline and by not putting Megatron in. Their coach already admitted he expected a lateral play not a hail mary.

We probably agree on a majority of the points regarding rules and replays here but you and I are seeing two different things in the plays themselves.
 
ChldsPlay said:
What they said in the game was irrelevant to what I said, and you know it.
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It is quite relevant, and you know this.

If the refs come out and say that after looking at the replay that it was still a facemask, THEN you would have an argument with the refs agreeing with you.
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They don't have to come out and say it was a facemask after the fact. They said it IN THE GAME!!!

The only reason why they'd come out and say anything more is if the call on the field was incorrect.
 
HoustonFrog said:
It's a video. Also a new one right above in slow mo. When someone says something as inane as "Why the first pick with the guy's thumb touching nothing but air?" then yes I will assume you don't know rules or that the guy didn't hit the facemask because you said "nothing but air." Sorry its called reading comprehension. Even the head of officiating has said that call will be made 90% of the time if not more. Thumb hits facemask inside, head pulls....flag. It is that easy. If you want to debate replay for these, great. But last night it was a good call as seen by a majority of refs and rules officials under the current set up.

http://gfycat.com/FamousHugeBrownbutterfly
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The picture doesn't show the facemask being pulled, so it is poor evidence of what you were trying to show. Pretty simple. Just because they would make the call based on what it looks like doesn't mean it's the right call.
 
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