TnT and anthony henry are turning 29 and 30 this year

[burmafrd]

Age is LESS important as years in the league. ITS MILEAGE that matters. The punishment, the hits, the long season, and so on.

 

[burmafrd]

Two players are 28; one has been a pro since he was 20 the other since he was 24. I can guarantee you that the guy with 8 years in the league will start to go downhill before the other does.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

Age is more important than years in league.

what are you talking about, explain your reasoning?

 

[goshan]

In terms of losing speed and athletic ability, age matters.
The fact is most people lose foot speed, coordination and athletic ability starting at 31 or 32. Its about father time.
Also, Cornerbacks don't take pounding so your point about years in league isn't relevant anyway.
There are exceptions (Green, Sanders, etc.) but corners generally slow down after 30 and speed is a critical part of their game.
Not admitting that Newman and Henry have a chance to start slowing down in a couple of years is putting blinders on.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

In terms of losing speed and athletic ability, age matters.
The fact is most people lose foot speed, coordination and athletic ability starting at 31 or 32. Its about father time.
Also, Cornerbacks don't take pounding so your point about years in league isn't relevant anyway.
There are exceptions (Green, Sanders, etc.) but corners generally slow down after 30 and speed is a critical part of their game.
Not admitting that Newman and Henry have a chance to start slowing down in a couple of years is putting blinders on.

people are just misjudging the players because they are basing everything on age, time in the league makes a huge difference, and with the WR being bigger and more punishing in todays NFL corners take more of a punishment than youd think. Corners who entered the league at young ages will definately start slowing down in their thirties but a player who joins the league 4 years later is going to start slowing down atleast 2 years after the average player who joined at a younger age.

no one is putting on blinders, anybody can begin to slow down but it is something that shouldnt be worried about at the age of 28 and 29 since at 26 you are at the peak of your performance level.

 

[Eddie]

Sorry guys, but AGE is a factor in the NFL.

Chris Weinke is NOT a fresh 30 year old QB who can play another 10 years. He's an old QB ... regardless of how many years he's played in the league.

The battering on the body is a small point, but a 4 year starter at age 25 is ALOT more valuable than a 4 year starter at age 30.

Sorry, but years are years ... and at 30, the body slows down, regardless of how long they've been in the NFL.

TNew is a good CB, but he's not a young pup. We knew that when we drafted him.

You guys get all worked up when the obvious is brought, and refuse to look reality in the face. Cowboys are gods, and we're not allowed to question anything about them ... even their age.

Heck, in Cowboy forum land, OLmen can play to 50 and don't reach their peack until 40.

 

[locked&loaded]

thank you eddie...
i didnt say that we are screwed this year but i tend to look to the future i would rather have the cowboys be a dynasty than a one year blip.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

i dont think any1 is questioning AGE as a factor in a players career. but you have to think of a guy whos 30 that has been in the league for 10 years might have 2 years left on him while a guy whos 30 that has been in the league for 5 years might have 3 or 4 years left in him.

Age is a huge factor and guys do start to slow down, but a guy who has less years in the NFL will generally play a few years longer . . . now having a guy at age 20 is a huge plus because he hasnt even reached his peak yet, while a guy at 25 will be on the downside of his career very shortly . . .

im going to use D. Hall to compare to T. New because he came in the league at 20-21 while Tnew came at 24-25, at 30 Hall will have been in the league for 9 years and T-New, all NFL players are punished in their career and Tnew will have been punished for about half the amount of time as D. Hall and therefore will be able to play a little bit longer. Tnew might play til 33 or 34 while hall til 31 or 32. Hall had the longer career 20-32 while Tnew played later in age 25-34. so age plays a factor but guys who come in later dont face the wear and tear that younger players do, and they will still have a solid 5-8 years while younger guys will have 8-10.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Age is more important than years in league.

...to a very complex question. There have been numerous players stars and journeyman who have tanked physically at young ages and numerous who have gone onto relatively long careers.

Variables as disparate as injuries, home stadium, position and luck play a factor.

In this league with free agency if you can put a player on the field for you for four to five years, call that a good FA pick, draft choice and be happy.

Anyone expecting a 15-20 year vet on their team from the tender age of 20 or 21 is fooling themselves and it is definitely not the way to run a team.

You pick the best player you need for that position of need despite their age and you don't look back.

The only thing to get in your way is affordability, but all the other factors wouldn't be considered unless the player is at the end of his career.

Don't look for complication in this game. Despite any perceived negatives this league is all about who can produce on the field for this year. No one cares about last year and next year isn't even on the map.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Cowboys are gods, and we're not allowed to question anything about them ... even their age.

Heck, in Cowboy forum land, OLmen can play to 50 and don't reach their peack until 40.

That's right. When Henson finally get his chance to start, it won't even matter that he will be 45.

 

[MapleLeaf]

thank you eddie...
i didnt say that we are screwed this year but i tend to look to the future i would rather have the cowboys be a dynasty than a one year blip.

...ever have a career in sports management with dynasty thoughts. A dynasty in the NFL is at the most two to fours years now and so much of that has to do with luck and avoiding injuries to key players. Often those key players are not the old guys, but rather the loss of your young star is the difference between a winning and losing season.

You can wish anything you want on this team. but the only important thing is to load the team up to win this year. It obvious what it takes to win and there isn't a single team or GM who doesn't approach the game in this fashion.

They scour the league for FAs and glean over the draft to find the crucial elements to win now. There is space for a few developmental players, but you don't base your team building philosophy on building a dynasty.

It's one of the most tragic parts of Cowboy fandom now with so many fans stuck on the era of the triplets. The truth is we have to let go of those years and be happy they happened. Unless there is a serious turnaround in the CBA those days are long gone.

You build to win now.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's one of the most tragic parts of Cowboy fandom now with so many fans stuck on the era of the triplets. The truth is we have to let go of those years and be happy they happened. Unless there is a serious turnaround in the CBA those days are long gone.

The triplets won 3 super bowls in 4 years. New England just did the same thing.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

While most are jumping on the original poster... I understand the concern. I can certainly see us stepping up and drafting perhaps a 2nd or 3rd round corner next year depending upon circumstances.

while I agree, just dont' agree with the poster ascertaining that Newman's age is a cause for concern, even Henry's

 

[Bob Sacamano]

In terms of losing speed and athletic ability, age matters.

yeah, but as players get older, good ones, they tend to rely on more than just speed and athletic ability

Not admitting that Newman and Henry have a chance to start slowing down in a couple of years is putting blinders on.

no it isn't, it's as close to being right as predicting that they'll slow down since none of us have any evidence that Newman and Henry are approaching the time where they slow down, so I'll take their current playing state

 

[Bob Sacamano]

...to a very complex question. There have been numerous players stars and journeyman who have tanked physically at young ages and numerous who have gone onto relatively long careers.

Variables as disparate as injuries, home stadium, position and luck play a factor.

In this league with free agency if you can put a player on the field for you for four to five years, call that a good FA pick, draft choice and be happy.

Anyone expecting a 15-20 year vet on their team from the tender age of 20 or 21 is fooling themselves and it is definitely not the way to run a team.

You pick the best player you need for that position of need despite their age and you don't look back.

The only thing to get in your way is affordability, but all the other factors wouldn't be considered unless the player is at the end of his career.

Don't look for complication in this game. Despite any perceived negatives this league is all about who can produce on the field for this year. No one cares about last year and next year isn't even on the map.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and for you guys worrying about Newman and Henry being 28 and 30 respectively, a football player's prime is 28, players don't noticeably slow down until they hit the twilight of their career, which is around 34, 35 years old, Newman's got alot of time, and so does Henry, and I don't think the Cowboys don't know that sometime in the future, they're going to need to find new CBs

 

[SuspectCorner]

Yet more evidence at how delusional some of the fans are here.

Yeah, our team is screwed unless we have 21 year old pro bowlers at cornerbacks.

These 28 year and 30 year old corners are UNACCEPTABLE.

We should have drafted CB in the first round for sure.

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Seriously, what the heck is wrong with you? Do you think 28 years old is OLD? WTH would you be worried about Newmans age??????? He has at least 5 good years left in him. We got Deion at the young age of.... 29! And he played up until he was 38.

I am sick and tired of these fans who complain and act as if it is reasonable to demand that the Cowboys have 23 year Old Pro Bowlers starting at every position with 21 year old Pro Bowlers backing them up 2 deep.

It is simply inconcievable to me how any sane person could be worried about Terrance Newman as your starting cornerback.

more coffee....?

 

[SuspectCorner]

seriously, cornerback is a position ya draft for almost annually. ya can't really have too many good ones. or, at least, you dream of being in that predicament.

the cowboys seem to weight the secondary positions pretty heavily based on recent history. i'd say we have little to worry about in that regard.

now O-line...? that's a horse of a different color.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

seriously, cornerback is a position ya draft for almost annually. ya can't really have too many good ones.

 

[burmafrd]

I cannot beleive the people with blinders on thinking its all about age. Just like a car its MORE about mileage. The pounding, the long seasons, the PRACTICES, and so forth will count for more then just years do. Remember our old nemesis from the skins, the OLD CB GREEN? He DEFIED the clock. AND other CB's play well untill they are 33 or so.