TO in the HOF--I say absolutely... cbssportline says on the bubble

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Kilyin;1543634 said:
all receivers drop passes.

Some drop more than others. Some drop so many that they aren't allowed to play football anymore.
 

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Maxmadden;1543641 said:
Some drop more than others. Some drop so many that they aren't allowed to play football anymore.

and some lead the NFL in receiving touchdowns.
 

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TO hasn't even had the best Cowboy single-season receiving year, besides the TDs

he's probably going to turn out better as a WR than Michael Irvin, but he hasn't been our best receiver
 

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Bob Sacamano;1543648 said:
TO hasn't even had the best Cowboy single-season receiving year, besides the TDs

he's probably going to turn out better as a WR than Michael Irvin, but he hasn't been our best receiver

yet.........:D
 

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If T.O. gets in the HoF and after Drew "Next Question" Rosenhaus presents him, I wonder if T.O. will ever credit any of his coaches for the "success" he had in his career!


:laugh2: T.O.+ HoF speech= awkward moment!
 

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Kilyin;1543643 said:
and some lead the NFL in receiving touchdowns.

Offensive coordinators have to give him touchdowns to feed his ego so he won't throw a tantrum. Under a true team concept he wouldn't fair nearly as well. You could easily give Witten 2 or 3 of his touchdowns as an example.

Irvin = Clutch TO = Uh? Not so clutch
 

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you saw his superbowl performance right? with a broken leg...that was clutch.
 

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T.O. is not close to being the best receiver to wear a star. Dallas did not get the same T.O. from 5 years ago or even 2 years ago. In just one season he has done some good things, but not near enough to be a better Dallas Cowboys receiver than Tony Hill, Drew Pearson, Michael Irvin or Bob Hayes. Those guys did great things as Cowboys.

As far as his entire career, I would rate T.O. high, but not the best ever. There are several that are better. I give Irvin a slight edge over T.O. Mike was not a scorer like T.O., but he did everything else better. T.O. and really no one will touch Rice's records.
 

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gazmc_06;1543529 said:
no doubt about it...as far as I'm concerned he is the best receiver to ever play the game.

Wow. I despise TO as a person, but he's a shoo-in HoFer, IMO. But best receiver to play the game?

Better than Rice? Wow.
 

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Roughneck;1543573 said:
Actually, no he's not.

TO's career numbers having played 11 seasons:

801 catches, 11,715 yards, 14.6 average, 114 TDs

Rice's career numbers through his first 11 seasons:

942 catches, 15,123 yards, 16.0 average, 146 TDs

Add to that Jerry played for 10 more seasons after this and TO will never even begin to sniff Rice's records.

gazmc_06;1543575 said:
801 catches.....Jerry's career 1,549 - half way there in half the time.
114 TD's....Jerry's career 197 - well more than half way there.
11,715 yards.....Jerry's career 22,895 - half way there.

A case for how stats can be manipulated to make any point. I agree with the conclusions of the first case.
 

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Now, Owens is being seen as, 'the best receiver in the history of the

National

Football

League'.



These are, indeed, the end days. :( Can one repent with a burnt offering consisting of a set of pompoms and a box of Sharpie pens before it's too late? :confused: I don't want to end up doing Left Behind movies like Kirk *sob* Cameron! :cry2:
 

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gazmc_06;1543529 said:
no doubt about it...as far as I'm concerned he is the best receiver to ever play the game.

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:lmao:
 

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burmafrd;1543762 said:
TO belongs in the HOF just based on his stats.

come on, hit us with the "if Lynn Swan is in the HoF" argument one more time!
 

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Fact is that TO is going to retire while well up the ladder in the Top 10 all time as regards catches, yds, tds. And he has been considered a game changer. NOT just a number guy- which has been the big arguement about Monk. So yes he deserves the HOF.
 

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Does the HOF really need a low-rent imitation of Michael Irvin?

Eh....maybe.
 

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burmafrd;1543793 said:
Fact is that TO is going to retire while well up the ladder in the Top 10 all time as regards catches, yds, tds. And he has been considered a game changer. NOT just a number guy- which has been the big arguement about Monk. So yes he deserves the HOF.

How do you know when TO is going to retire? Did we know when 88 was going to retire?
 

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gazmc_06;1543529 said:
no doubt about it...as far as I'm concerned he is the best receiver to ever play the game.

for all i know, you're a great guy.

but dude, you're nuts!!
 

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Gotta figure TO is going to at least play 2 more years. At least. So add those probable stats to what he has now and he is going to be right up there.
 
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