TO looking like a declining player....

[Rampage]

I dont like him or dislike him as a person, i dont know him. I do like his passion. I do like his work ethic, and I LOVE the DALLAS COWBOYS. The reason I defend him is I think he caught a bad wrap last year. I feel the team, the city, the media needed someone to blame for last years failures, and he was the easy choice. TO was no worse last year than he was in year 1 and 2. Earlier in the year everyone was commending him for his hustle, and blocking. I think TO was essential (not necessary) but essential in the success and growth of Romo. I feel even with his decline (he still had 10 tds with Romo gone for 3 games and not healthy for the remainder) he still opened the field up for Witten. So in essence I feel like we lost out in two places. Miles is a pleasant suprise and has put up numbers, but all the attention is on witten. They could not do that with TO, even in his decline. There is more but you catch my drift.

#1 his work ethic is so overrated. I saw that guy quit on routes or run them lazy cause he knew he wasn't gonna get the ball so many times just while he was in Dallas

#2 he was a lot worse last year than he was in his 1st 2 years here. teams jammed him at the line and he was out of the play cause his acceleration is crap now. he still has good speed once he gets going but a solid jam at the line negates that.

#3 the most overrated blocker of all wrs is Owens.

#4 his passion is what caused him to publicly throw his teammates and coaches under the bus. the guy drops more passes than any real "#1 wr" yet you never heard man up about his drops. instead he blamed everybody else.

#5 Witten leads the team in catches again. we didn't miss out on anything but more unnecessary drama and key dropped passes holding this team back.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

the thing is you are paying them both anyway...Yes he is on the decline, but better than what we have. Would I resign him...NO, but I would not have eaten 9 mil either.

The benefit extends beyond this season. The Cowboys absorb the cap hit this year, and have additional cap space in the next.

 

[thechosen1n2]

#1 his work ethic is so overrated. I saw that guy quit on routes or run them lazy cause he knew he wasn't gonna get the ball so many times just while he was in Dallas

#2 he was a lot worse last year than he was in his 1st 2 years here. teams jammed him at the line and he was out of the play cause his acceleration is crap now. he still has good speed once he gets going but a solid jam at the line negates that.

#3 the most overrated blocker of all wrs is Owens.

#4 his passion is what caused him to publicly throw his teammates and coaches under the bus. the guy drops more passes than any real "#1 wr" yet you never heard man up about his drops. instead he blamed everybody else.

#5 Witten leads the team in catches again. we didn't miss out on anything but more unnecessary drama and key dropped passes holding this team back.

1 .Once again misunderstanding...when i said he was no worse in year 3 than he was in 1 or 2, I was speaking of the what he supposed did to tear this team apart.

2. Witten still leads the team in catches, but thas now saying much, how many balls are our receivers catching, and where are all those witten catches between the hashmarks we have seen for 2 years. (not a knock on witten). Witten is still been solid, but not all world like has been.

3. The only player that is a better blocker is Roy.

4. I have have acknowledged his his hands but to put real #1 in quotes as if he wasnt one is asinine.

5. What player did he really throw under the bus last year. He had a meeting with his coach about the offense that was bogged down. Every fan saw it, you think he didnt. He went to his coach. He didnt go to the media, he didnt go to jerry, he didnt even go to wade, he went to the offensive coordinator. He followed the chain of command, and he did it privately. Since when is that wrong.

Fact- in "decline" he gave us 10 tds with terrible qb play for half of the season. Easily would have had 14 tds without romos injury and the lingering effect of the finger, as well as opening up the field for Witten to kill teams.

Fact- in 'decline" he would still be our best receiver, and if not he would be miles ahead of Roy.

Fact-Your list show syou just dont give him any credit.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

1 .Once again misunderstanding...when i said he was no worse in year 3 than he was in 1 or 2, I was speaking of the what he supposed did to tear this team apart.

2. Witten still leads the team in catches, but thas now saying much, how many balls are our receivers catching, and where are all those witten catches between the hashmarks we have seen for 2 years. (not a knock on witten). Witten is still been solid, but not all world like has been.

3. The only player that is a better blocker is Roy.

4. I have have acknowledged his his hands but to put real #1 in quotes as if he wasnt one is asinine.

5. What player did he really throw under the bus last year. He had a meeting with his coach about the offense that was bogged down. Every fan saw it, you think he didnt. He went to his coach. He didnt go to the media, he didnt go to jerry, he didnt even go to wade, he went to the offensive coordinator. He followed the chain of command, and he did it privately. Since when is that wrong.

Fact- in "decline" he gave us 10 tds with terrible qb play for half of the season. Easily would have had 14 tds without romos injury and the lingering effect of the finger, as well as opening up the field for Witten to kill teams.

Fact- in 'decline" he would still be our best receiver, and if not he would be miles ahead of Roy.

Fact-Your list show syou just dont give him any credit.

Great Post.

Funny how the homers forget Bollinger and Brad Johnson.

 

[Rampage]

1 .Once again misunderstanding...when i said he was no worse in year 3 than he was in 1 or 2, I was speaking of the what he supposed did to tear this team apart.

2. Witten still leads the team in catches, but thas now saying much, how many balls are our receivers catching, and where are all those witten catches between the hashmarks we have seen for 2 years. (not a knock on witten). Witten is still been solid, but not all world like has been.

3. The only player that is a better blocker is Roy.

4. I have have acknowledged his his hands but to put real #1 in quotes as if he wasnt one is asinine.

5. What player did he really throw under the bus last year. He had a meeting with his coach about the offense that was bogged down. Every fan saw it, you think he didnt. He went to his coach. He didnt go to the media, he didnt go to jerry, he didnt even go to wade, he went to the offensive coordinator. He followed the chain of command, and he did it privately. Since when is that wrong.

Fact- in "decline" he gave us 10 tds with terrible qb play for half of the season. Easily would have had 14 tds without romos injury and the lingering effect of the finger, as well as opening up the field for Witten to kill teams.

Fact- in 'decline" he would still be our best receiver, and if not he would be miles ahead of Roy.

Fact-Your list show syou just dont give him any credit.

#1 you mean like whining after he had 18 passes thrown to him? or having interviews bagging on the coaches and qbs with his "I can't throw it to myself" remark?

#2 they're catching enough that we have and 8-3 record. have you heard of Miles Austin?

#3 lol Owens has always been an average blocker at best.

#4 all i'm saying that out of the real #1 wrs his hands are the worst.

#5 he bagged on any qb throwing to him with his "I can't throw it to myself" remark. he also complained about how the passes weren't on target and complained in the deion interview about Garrett.

fact- Jam him at the line and he's out of the play

fact- his numbers are inflated due to getting more passes thrown his way than any other wr last year.

fact - he used to be a very good wr. now's an old slow accelerating wr who's the same ******* he was on his last 3 teams.

fact- he started his crap about complaining for the ball after the very 1st game with his new team.

fact- If he wanted to win as bad as you think he wouldn't of blew his chance with Philly or Dallas.

I'll give him credit he used to be a great wr. he's not anymore.

 

[thechosen1n2]

#1 you mean like whining after he had 18 passes thrown to him? or having interviews bagging on the coaches and qbs with his "I can't throw it to myself" remark?

#2 they're catching enough that we have and 8-3 record. have you heard of Miles Austin?

#3 lol Owens has always been an average blocker at best.

#4 all i'm saying that out of the real #1 wrs his hands are the worst.

#5 he bagged on any qb throwing to him with his "I can't throw it to myself" remark. he also complained about how the passes weren't on target and complained in the deion interview about Garrett.

fact- Jam him at the line and he's out of the play

fact- his numbers are inflated due to getting more passes thrown his way than any other wr last year.

fact - he used to be a very good wr. now's an old slow accelerating wr who's the same ******* he was on his last 3 teams.

fact- he started his crap about complaining for the ball after the very 1st game with his new team.

fact- If he wanted to win as bad as you think he wouldn't of blew his chance with Philly or Dallas.

I'll give him credit he used to be a great wr. he's not anymore.

When he said he cant throw himself the ball, was in this context. Media: How come they are not getting you the ball TO: you have to talk to the coaches and the qb, Im not throwing the ball to myself. That is not the greatest answer but it was not malicious. TO next questioned Negative questions to the point of stories being fabricated.

Thrown to 18 times that one game is very misleading...How many of those were catchable.

Even if he is an average blocker, Roy is the only one better on this team.

He used to be a GREAT receiver...he is no longer Great (as in top 10) but with good QB play he is not as bad as you think.

Jam him at the line, along with a safety helping hes out of the play, but oops Witten Just caught a 40 yard bomb between the Seems. How many of those have we seen. It used to be pick your Poison...Either TO or Witten would eat you up.

I have heard of miles. Im proud of Miles. I even said if TO was not the best (assuming Miles is better now) Miles, TO, Witten would be hard to handle.

Yes we are 8-3 (and check the boards I predicted we ould be 9-2/10-1 at this point without Owens) but that Packers game, Denver game, and the washington game we eeked out were terrible offensive games for us. We should be fighting for a bye.

I stand corrected, I thought you were saying his hands ruled him out as a true number 1, but you are right his hands are not good.

We can go back and forth, but I have a problems with both sides. I dont think he is the end all be all, but I dont think he was the problem that people make him out to be. He provided the blood that people were out for because I hopes were smashed last year. TO did a great job and gave us maximum effort while he was here. People act as if he was not good for this team. TO Romo and Witten were a great Trio. This defense, with Romo seemingly being more careful, along with Austin, and Witten...If we added Owens in the mix I think we would be in the Bowl this year.