TO looking like a declining player....

[tyke1doe]

Its amazing to see both sides of this argument Cop Pleas and make excuses for their side.

Lovers say- Revis is a stud, he stops everybody. Revis had nothing to do with the TO drop on a critical 3rd down, because TO had beat him. Thats TOs fault and TOs fault alone.

Haters act as if that last Int was TOs fault when he had beat Revis and the ball was underthrown. Its hard to put on breaks and comeback and fight for a ball. He had gone up and faught for a ball earlier that could have been a pick.

Then everyone is so quick to point out that Romo was speaking of TO when he was talking about finger pointing, but failed to realize he could have been talking about his personal growth as well, because I recall Romo finger pointing at Garrett to the public as well. Not to mention, It was TO defending Romo from the Finger Pointing against some of you fans.

Great post.

I'm not T.O. fan, but you'd have to be Gumby to be running full speed and readjust to an underthrown ball the way people expected T.O. to do on that last Revis interception.

But T.O. clearly isn't the receiver he used to be, and the long 51-yard pass was basically a surprise play when Miami thought the Bills would run out the clock on the ground.

 

[dbair1967]

You could see some of that Monday night against the Saints.

Yep...it was pretty apparent...there was another game on this yr where you could see him dogging it and sulking etc etc...cant remember which one it was but it was earlier in the season

 

[khiladi]

I'd still take Randy Moss, despite his 'sulking'....

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'd still take Randy Moss, despite his 'sulking'....

So would i. I would have LOVED to have made that 4th round deal for him when Oakland traded him. I'd have swooped in and offered a 2nd or 3rd to get him before New England could.

 

[thechosen1n2]

So would i. I would have LOVED to have made that 4th round deal for him when Oakland traded him. I'd have swooped in and offered a 2nd or 3rd to get him before New England could.

So you would rather have a guy that quits b/c his team is not good than one that fusses and hates losing....I hate randy moss b/c Randy moss with his abilities should be unquestionably the best wideout ever. And hes not because he a quitter. I have no respect for people like him and shaq. B/c as great as they are, they could have been the greatest if they had the work ethic of Kobe, MJ, or Michael Irvin.

 

[Rampage]

So you would rather have a guy that quits b/c his team is not good than one that fusses and hates losing....I hate randy moss b/c Randy moss with his abilities should be unquestionably the best wideout ever. And hes not because he a quitter. I have no respect for people like him and shaq. B/c as great as they are, they could have been the greatest if they had the work ethic of Kobe, MJ, or Michael Irvin.

even when he's not giving 100% he's still better than Owens. his hands are 10x better than T.O.'s too.

 

[thechosen1n2]

even when he's not giving 100% he's still better than Owens. his hands are 10x better than T.O.'s too.

His hands are better than owens for sure....No argument there, but I think TO has more TDs since 2000 than anyone, so I would not exactly say hes better. I think they are what and what depending what you are looking for. I think your statement should say his hands are 10x better, and and his more naturally gifted. Strangely there numbers are very similar. Exactly why I hate moss. I will take a dude that despises losing than a guy that quits on his team. Moss ended up leaving Minnesota b/c he couldnt get along with culpepper.

 

[Rampage]

His hands are better than owens for sure....No argument there, but I think TO has more TDs since 2000 than anyone, so I would not exactly say hes better. I think they are what and what depending what you are looking for. I think your statement should say his hands are 10x better, and and his more naturally gifted. Strangely there numbers are very similar. Exactly why I hate moss. I will take a dude that despises losing than a guy that quits on his team. Moss ended up leaving Minnesota b/c he couldnt get along with culpepper.

T.O. left Philly and Dallas cause he couldn't get along with McNabb and Romo

 

[Hostile]

His hands are better than owens for sure....No argument there, but I think TO has more TDs since 2000 than anyone, so I would not exactly say hes better. I think they are what and what depending what you are looking for. I think your statement should say his hands are 10x better, and and his more naturally gifted. Strangely there numbers are very similar. Exactly why I hate moss. I will take a dude that despises losing than a guy that quits on his team. Moss ended up leaving Minnesota b/c he couldnt get along with culpepper.

LaDanian Tomlinson has more since he arrived in 2001 than Owens has in his career which began in 1996.

 

[thechosen1n2]

T.O. left Philly and Dallas cause he couldn't get along with McNabb and Romo

I think you missed the point Rampage. Thats why you and others cant stand TO because he causes issues on the team. Moss did the same, and hes a quitter unless his situation is ideal.

 

[thechosen1n2]

LaDanian Tomlinson has more since he arrived in 2001 than Owens has in his career which began in 1996.

I said anyone, but i meant receivers. I stand corrected since i did not say what I meant.

 

[Hostile]

I said anyone, but i meant receivers. I stand corrected since i did not say what I meant.

Oh.

Owens has 112 since 2000.

Moss has 115 since 2000.

Owens has 142 since arriving in 1996.

Moss has 143 since arriving in 1998.

 

[Rampage]

I think you missed the point Rampage. Thats why you and others cant stand TO because he causes issues on the team. Moss did the same, and hes a quitter unless his situation is ideal.

exactly! why do you like that moron?

 

[thechosen1n2]

exactly! why do you like that moron?

I dont like him or dislike him as a person, i dont know him. I do like his passion. I do like his work ethic, and I LOVE the DALLAS COWBOYS. The reason I defend him is I think he caught a bad wrap last year. I feel the team, the city, the media needed someone to blame for last years failures, and he was the easy choice. TO was no worse last year than he was in year 1 and 2. Earlier in the year everyone was commending him for his hustle, and blocking. I think TO was essential (not necessary) but essential in the success and growth of Romo. I feel even with his decline (he still had 10 tds with Romo gone for 3 games and not healthy for the remainder) he still opened the field up for Witten. So in essence I feel like we lost out in two places. Miles is a pleasant suprise and has put up numbers, but all the attention is on witten. They could not do that with TO, even in his decline. There is more but you catch my drift.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Oh.

Owens has 112 since 2000.

Moss has 115 since 2000.

Owens has 142 since arriving in 1996.

Moss has 143 since arriving in 1998.

Thanks for looking the exact stats, I was going from memory, but this proves my point. Since 2000 their numbers are very similar which I said earlier. Moss should be better than everybody by a long shot....EVER, including Rice. So yeah I hate his quitting worse than I hate TOs emotions. I think you could win with a team full of TOs more than a team full of Mosses.

 

[Hostile]

Thanks for looking the exact stats, I was going from memory, but this proves my point. Since 2000 their numbers are very similar which I said earlier. Moss should be better than everybody by a long shot....EVER, including Rice. So yeah I hate his quitting worse than I hate TOs emotions. I think you could win with a team full of TOs more than a team full of Mosses.

Teams can't win it all with one TO. I don't see how a team full of drama could.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Teams can't win it all with one TO. I don't see how a team full of drama could.

So it was TOs fault McNabb Choked in the bowl...It was TOs fault that Crayton quit on the winning TD and dropped another that would have been a TD.

That is not a fair nor true statement. Keyshawn Johnson was less of a team player than TO ever has been in Tampa Bay and they won. What about the running back that was a long time Bengal that ended up with the Patriots, he was perceived as a team cancer as well. Just look how many people on Eagles and Cowboys that said TO was nothing but a help to them. TO only has a problem when you act as if it doesnt matter, and McNabb and Romo both can come off that way. That being said, TO is terrible at expressing what he means.

 

[Hostile]

So it was TOs fault McNabb Choked in the bowl...It was TOs fault that Crayton quit on the winning TD and dropped another that would have been a TD.

That is not a fair nor true statement. Keyshawn Johnson was less of a team player than TO ever has been in Tampa Bay and they won. What about the running back that was a long time Bengal that ended up with the Patriots, he was perceived as a team cancer as well. Just look how many people on Eagles and Cowboys that said TO was nothing but a help to them. TO only has a problem when you act as if it doesnt matter, and McNabb and Romo both can come off that way. That being said, TO is terrible at expressing what he means.

TO has only played one season?

I wasn't aware that 1996 through 2009 is one season.

He is not a winner. He is a former fantastic football player who does not make a team better when he becomes more important in his own mind than winning, coaches, teammates, and everything else but his own selfish needs.

I am pleased with his 2006 and 2007 here, but I would never welcome him on my football team again. I think the Bills were absolutely stupid to sign him. I'd have let him rot in his own importance and misery. He has no one to blame but himself.

He's over, done, and way over rated by way too many people here. 8-3 proves it. I don't need to say anythign else. We were doomed because his production could not be replaced. It is being exceeded. Nearly every player on the Offense is playing better this year than last year.

Coincidence? That's a lot of coincidence. Too much for me to swallow.

 

[Shadowy329]

Nearly every player on the Offense is playing better this year than last year.

Nearly every player on the offense has a far superior version of their position compared to what Owens has to play next to as well.

Not taking away from anyone just throwing it out there.

 

[Hostile]

Nearly every player on the offense has a far superior version of their position compared to what Owens has to play next to as well.

Not taking away from anyone just throwing it out there.

That is Owens own fault. Therefore I don't give a damn about how poor his teammates are in Buffalo. All he had to do was shut his festering gob and he couldn't. Diarrhea of the mouth.