To my fellow realists... Are you as encouraged as me?

[Joe Realist]

I'll say right now... Some of the stuff you guys are talking about, I have never been a part of. At the same time, I have been burned many times before and refuse to be burned again. Some of us choose to see the world as a kaleidoscope of beautiful colors while others see good, bad, & ugly. I can accept diversity. I can't help those that are too close minded to do the same. Everyone has their opinions regarding the status and direction of this team. If you want to get down to the bare bones... This team hasn't done jack **** in 13 years. Let me repeat once more... This team hasn't done **** since before CowboyMcCoy was born. There's some perspective for ya. You must be out of your minds if you think everyone is going to see the roses that you see. The wait & see approach works very well for some of us. Yes. I will agree that some of us do wait for the next loss to pound their individual agendas. I challenge anyone to place me in that boat. I am encouraged by the direction I see this team going but at the same time I remain apprehensive and watchful. This team still has a lot of growing to do. 13 years of underachievement isn't forgotten in 8 weeks.

good post

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I'll say right now... Some of the stuff you guys are talking about, I have never been a part of. At the same time, I have been burned many times before and refuse to be burned again. Some of us choose to see the world as a kaleidoscope of beautiful colors while others see good, bad, & ugly. I can accept diversity. I can't help those that are too close minded to do the same. Everyone has their opinions regarding the status and direction of this team. If you want to get down to the bare bones... This team hasn't done jack **** in 13 years. Let me repeat once more... This team hasn't done **** since before CowboyMcCoy was born. There's some perspective for ya. You must be out of your minds if you think everyone is going to see the roses that you see. The wait & see approach works very well for some of us. Yes. I will agree that some of us do wait for the next loss to pound their individual agendas. I challenge anyone to place me in that boat. I am encouraged by the direction I see this team going but at the same time I remain apprehensive and watchful. This team still has a lot of growing to do. 13 years of underachievement isn't forgotten in 8 weeks.

...says the internet tough guy. I watched 'em win 3 Super Bowls. And did you say something about losing pounds? My agenda is winning. I've been around this board a lot longer than you...before you even sniffed it, i was posting about my fanaticism. Yet all you can do is keep portraying this tough guy act and keep showing us what a short memory you have. 13 years ago wasn't that long ago. Remember, there are 32 teams in the NFL. You don't seem too good at this odds/percentage/likelihood thing...just like you don't seem very good at analyses either.

You're a "realist". Let us know when you become some sort of coach or expert. In the meantime, I'll just consider you a real jokester.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Bleu, I'm chirping here because you addressed your 'fellow realists' which is a group that includes mostly delusional mouthbreathers in my book. I wouldn't lump you necessarily into that category unless you're going to address them all as a pack, but, collectively, they've been a sucky group of fans this entire offseason. They deserve some flak.

Really, on the money.

As for the current record, we're all aware that we're only half way through the regular season. A single injury could change things dramatically, and we've still got to prove we can compete with good teams in December and beyond. That said, it's pretty hard to argue with our progress to-date. We're a pretty good team that's made a lot of good decisions in the offseason. Our coaches have the offense, defense, and special teams playing well and our QB is playing really, really good football right now. That's about as real as it gets.

On the money--for real.

 

[Bleu Star]

...says the internet tough guy. I watched 'em win 3 Super Bowls. And did you say something about losing pounds? My agenda is winning. I've been around this board a lot longer than you...before you even sniffed it, i was posting about my fanaticism. Yet all you can do is keep portraying this tough guy act and keep showing us what a short memory you have. 13 years ago wasn't that long ago. Remember, there are 32 teams in the NFL. You don't seem too good at this odds/percentage/likelihood thing...just like you don't seem very good at analyses either.

You're a "realist". Let us know when you become some sort of coach or expert. In the meantime, I'll just consider you a real jokester.

You really called me an internet tough guy? :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

I know the internet all too well. It's no place to act tough. We would have the same talk face to face over beer (that's if you're old enough to partake).

I'm flattered that you think I am an internet tough guy...lol

 

[Bleu Star]

wait wait... let me hit the pose.

:flex: ARGHHHH

 

[WoodysGirl]

13 years, 13 years, 13 years... Such a boring premise to base an opinion on. If one can't sift through those 13 years and see the evolution of this team from an old, aging, outright stink team to one of an upcoming team whose foundation has been set to be competive year in and year out, then I think folks need to take off those blind as a bat glasses they give you when they dilate your eyes.

When the Cowboys have some postseason success this year, then it'll be, "They've only won once in 14 years." And a new record will be broken.

 

[Bleu Star]

13 years, 13 years, 13 years... Such a boring premise to base an opinion on. If one can't sift through those 13 years and see the evolution of this team from an old, aging, outright stink team to one of an upcoming team whose foundation has been set to be competive year in and year out, then I think folks need to take off those blind as a bat glasses they give you when they dilate your eyes.

When the Cowboys have some postseason success this year, then it'll be, "They've only won once in 14 years." And a new record will be broken.

Nah. I do see the progression that has taken place this season. It's a beautiful thing to see. At the same time, I remain reserved and hopeful. I will not apologize to anyone for that stance.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Nah. I do see the progression that has taken place this season. It's a beautiful thing to see. At the same time, I remain reserved and hopeful. I will not apologize to anyone for that stance.

Here's the disconnect. You think the only reason to be encouraged is by the success of the past four weeks. Though you're one of the first to cite 13 years as a reason to be down. This team hasn't had postseason success in 13 years, but they haven't been a piss poor crappy team for the entire 13 years either.

Some want to credit the hiring of Parcells, I actually think the turn began with the 2002 draft. Yes there have been some disappointing ends to the season, but overall this team hasn't been Campo-bad or even Jimmy 1-15 bad in years.

I think it's a myopic view to yell, "They haven't done jack **** in 13 years" When, in reality, they have.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, you may consider yourself a moderate, but your opinion comes from a glass half-empty point of view. You're entitled to it. *shrug*

 

[WoodysGirl]

And just to add something from another post I made in the Daily Zone. Yes, I really like myself.

The important thing is have an even keel personality. Too many fans take the fan part of fanatic literally.

I enjoy the Cowboys. Period. I'm not interested in running through corn fields with daisies in hand because I love them so much.

I don't have to like every move they make. But I'm also not going to sit with my arms crossed, frowning, at every move they make until they PROVE something.

Hate to call up bad memories of Romo, but sometimes you have to just enjoy the journey.

 

[Bleu Star]

Here's the disconnect. You think the only reason to be encouraged is by the success of the past four weeks. Though you're one of the first to cite 13 years as a reason to be down. This team hasn't had postseason success in 13 years, but they haven't been a piss poor crappy team for the entire 13 years either.

Some want to credit the hiring of Parcells, I actually think the turn began with the 2002 draft. Yes there have been some disappointing ends to the season, but overall this team hasn't been Campo-bad or even Jimmy 1-15 bad in years.

I think it's a myopic view to yell, "They haven't done jack **** in 13 years" When, in reality, they have.

In stark contrast, I look at thing like 44-6 and wonder what the hell we were fielding. We both see things a bit differently but will also both be there to cheer them through for yet another year. Yes. The recent drafts have been better. Yes. We've done better in free agency for the most part. No. We haven't done anything significant enough to make me believe a trend is developing. I tend to look at larger sample pools overall.

 

[theogt]

Well, WG, whatever you do, don't become a season ticket holder. They you're really part of the problem.

 

[Bleu Star]

And just to add something from another post I made in the Daily Zone. Yes, I really like myself.

I like you too. You're one of my favorite moderators. (cue the slurpee comments from the peanut gallery)

 

[Bleu Star]

Well, WG, whatever you do, don't become a season ticket holder. They you're really part of the problem.

Oh ok. I see what you did there.............................................

 

[WoodysGirl]

In stark contrast, I look at thing like 44-6 and wonder what the hell we were fielding. We both see things a bit differently but will also both be there to cheer them through for yet another year. Yes. The recent drafts have been better. Yes. We've done better in free agency for the most part. No. We haven't done anything significant enough to make me believe a trend is developing. I tend to look at larger sample pools overall.

Your larger sample tends to focus only on postseason success though. I agree we ALL want them to win a super bowl. That's a given. However, I think the larger sample should include the core of the team, such as the drafts, the free agent acquisitions, team character, team execution, and yes coaching.

All of that has to work together to achieve postseason success. This team hasn't made the quick turnaround as some other teams have. But they've been in the playoff mix for at least five years now and there's been a steady growth process. There's enough good, hard working talent that's been brought in consistently at least since 2002 to make me think it IS a trend.

 

[Bleu Star]

Your larger sample tends to focus only on postseason success though. I agree we ALL want them to win a super bowl. That's a given. However, I think the larger sample should include the core of the team, such as the drafts, the free agent acquisitions, team character, team execution, and yes coaching.

All of that has to work together to achieve postseason success. This team hasn't made the quick turnaround as some other teams have. But they've been in the playoff mix for at least five years now and there's been a steady growth process. There's enough good, hard working talent that's been brought in consistently at least since 2002 to make me think it IS a trend.

We clearly see things differently at the midway point. I'm hopeful that your keen insight will bear fruit at season's end.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Well, WG, whatever you do, don't become a season ticket holder. They you're really part of the problem.

I know there's a reason for this statement, but I'm sure I missed it.

That said, one day I am going to get season tix.

I like you too. You're one of my favorite moderators. (cue the slurpee comments from the peanut gallery)

Thank you. I'm sure others would think otherwise. I'll take your compliment and run with it.

 

[theogt]

I know there's a reason for this statement, but I'm sure I missed it.

That said, one day I am going to get season tix.

Your BFF. Told me I was "part of the problem" because I'm a season ticket holder. In other words, anyone who gives money to Jerry is part of the problem. I guess...who knows. He was just trying to come up with any insult possible at that point. Not sure how he thought that was an insult, though.

 

[WoodysGirl]

We clearly see things differently at the midway point. I'm hopeful that your keen insight will bear fruit at season's end.

Ha! Well I don't know that my insight is all that keen, but I do agree we do see things differently.

Simply because the postseason success or failure of this team won't determine how I judge this team.

Your BFF. Told me I was "part of the problem" because I'm a season ticket holder. In other words, anyone who gives money to Jerry is part of the problem. I guess...who knows. He was just trying to come up with any insult possible at that point. Not sure how he thought that was an insult, though.

Hmm...I see.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

The important thing is have an even keel personality. Too many fans take the fan part of fanatic literally.

If that works for you but i don’t think it is the only right way to think. For me, i enjoy the ups and downs. You can only know happiness by experiencing sorrow. That for me makes me feel alive. I greatly enjoy the victories because the losses hurt so much.

 

[Joe Realist]

Your larger sample tends to focus only on postseason success though. I agree we ALL want them to win a super bowl. That's a given. However, I think the larger sample should include the core of the team, such as the drafts, the free agent acquisitions, team character, team execution, and yes coaching.

All of that has to work together to achieve postseason success. This team hasn't made the quick turnaround as some other teams have. But they've been in the playoff mix for at least five years now and there's been a steady growth process. There's enough good, hard working talent that's been brought in consistently at least since 2002 to make me think it IS a trend.

There has been growth and there has been 2 steps forward one step back because Jerry always changes his strategy. After the dead money era of the early 2000's he hires Parcells to instill some discipline and help reclaim America's Team. During this time, they had some good drafts and Jerry takes back seat, except he brings in T.O. who as talented as he was, is a locker room divider. Then he decides he wants back in limelight and Parcells wears out his welcome and vice versa. So he goes and hires a coach he has better control of. They have some immediate success as the iron fist had been lifted, albiet too much as we saw last year. We also became Boys Town of NFL. Any publicity even bad is good in Jerry's eyes. Then Jerry realizes again, I must make a change and cleans up his own mess. I give him credit for changing but sometimes it feels like ill throw it against the wall and see if it sticks. He still said recently that chemistry is overrated or something similar and as we see this year, it is not.

This is not the Cincinnati Bengals. Call us spoiled fans, but we expect playoffs and all the evolving and progress is nothing w/o a dedicated strategy that produces playoff success. I didnt intend for this to be a Jerry post, but as much as he has helped the team progress, he has helped it regress at times. The sliver-lining now, could be the influence of Steven and the maturation of the core players. I like their attitude this year, which we have not seen in a long time. End the December swoons, make some playoff noise and I'll say there is progress made.