TO on first take right now

pancakeman;4911113 said:
Do y'all think he will go into the Hall of Fame?
He's a top 5 all time wide receiver. And it's hard to think of any receiver more "famous" than him in the past 10 years.

If he isn't a first ballot HOF'er, then it just shows the whole thing is a farce (thought we already know it is).
 
He'll go into the Hall of Fame, but I won't watch his induction speech.
 
Manwiththeplan;4911141 said:
It would be so much worse. Everyone who is remotely good would get in and teams with higher representation would unfairly block their rivals from getting in.

The media aren't perfect, by far, they aren't, but they are the best option.


I agree, plus alot of the older players who are in HOF dont like the new gen players....only way possible is to make a panel of 1 HOFer representing each team....
 
How did he and Skip get along on the set of First Take?

To me, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's arguably the most polarizing figure to play in the league. As someone pointed out earlier, usually half of his teammates liked him while the other half probably wanted him to get lost yesterday. Still, in terms of performance on the field and production, he's sitting at the very exclusive table occupied by only Jerry Rice and Randy Moss.
 
LeonDixson;4911135 said:
Agreed. I've said it for years. He's mentally ill and needs help.

I wouldn't say he isn't charismatic though. He seems to influence half of every team he's ruined.

Well, in person, I'm sure he's very likable. He must be. I just mean that I've never heard him say anything interesting to a camera that wasn't interesting because it was disrespectful to a teammate or just circus-quality absurd with his shirt off while doing situps or whatever. If he's not playing, his obvious willingness to be destructive won't have any target, and he'll become boring because he's just not very bright.
 
This is must watch tv.

He was elaborating on his time in Dallas and Stephen A cut him off.
 
I think if he gets into the HoF his bust should have an empty bag of popcorn attached :D

/reality
 
I'm disappointed by the lack of questions about his time in Dallas. It's been like one question and the majority have been about Philly.
 
SDCowboy85;4911089 said:
So far it's just been more finger pointing by him. It never ends.

He's bitter.
 
SDCowboy85;4911126 said:
Not definite at all. The media is who votes.

True which is why I said he's not first ballot. But you can't deny his stats and production. As much of a cancer, narcissist, Team Obiliterator or whatever you want to call him, he was dominant at his position and behind only the greatest WR to ever play the game in most categories.
 
T.O is not a bad person but he does try to get people to feel sorry for him. Like Hostile said, I would like to hear what his ex teammates have to say about him but they could really care less...
 
theogt;4911145 said:
He's a top 5 all time wide receiver. And it's hard to think of any receiver more "famous" than him in the past 10 years.

If he isn't a first ballot HOF'er, then it just shows the whole thing is a farce (thought we already know it is).

You can't go anywhere hardly and people have not heard of Jerry Rice, Randy, or TO

Especially Randy Moss.....he's the only WR/Player in the NFL that has a saying like Jordan, when you get embarrased.

Jordan= You got J'd

Moss= You got Mossed

If Moss wasn't a headcase in his career, he would go down as the best Ever....imo, he is.
 
Arkyvarminter;4911263 said:
T.O is not a bad person but he does try to get people to feel sorry for him. Like Hostile said, I would like to hear what his ex teammates have to say about him but they could really care less...


I think if you go to any of his former teams you'll find a strong contingent of players who supported the guy, including here.
 
Hostile;4911104 said:
One day I'd like to hear the teams and players he has blamed tell their sides of the story. He'd look like such a jerk. He is the ultimate victim.

Well, it's not like they haven't had chances to do so. He's been in the league for a while now.

I think it tells me that he wasn't as bad of a teammate as people point him out to be. Either that or he was one of those people who told the truth, to a fault. Often times those people get caught in drama for doing so, but are often respected because in the end they were at least honest.









YR
 
Arkyvarminter;4911263 said:
T.O is not a bad person but he does try to get people to feel sorry for him. Like Hostile said, I would like to hear what his ex teammates have to say about him but they could really care less...

TO is too sensitive and so is the general media and fans.

When you have 2 sides that sensitive then it just creates an explosion.

This whole Josh Brent thing and Cowboy fans being so upset about him being on the sideline has really opened my eyes to how much some of this stuff can just ruin someones day.
 
The Natural;4911270 said:
I think if you go to any of his former teams you'll find a strong contingent of players who supported the guy, including here.




Saying somebody got J'd or 'J'd up' has nothing to do with Jordan's name

It's around his time and after people really started using it.

A ton of people I ball with or have, don't feel the same way as you do.

Jordan made a killing doing players nasty when he would hit a jumper on on them. So saying you got J'd is a reference to Jordan.
 
Frozen700;4911274 said:
It's around his time and after people really started using it.

A ton of people I ball with or have, don't feel the same way as you do.

Jordan made a killing doing players nasty when he would hit a jumper on on them. So saying you got J'd is a reference to Jordan.

Yea growing up we used the term I just never considered the real origin, its just something we said. Thats why I took it out
 
The Natural;4911276 said:
Yea growing up we used the term I just never considered the real origin, its just something we said. Thats why I took it out

Yeah, it's all good bro
 
Are we judging him on his career on the field or his drama media circus?

Because his stats have him as a first ballot HOF player.
 

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