News: To pay Terrance Williams or not?

[Bluefin]

Yes, much of it is dependent on how they use the players. Beasley could have better stats, but he can't play Williams' position.

That's a two way street.

Williams can't play Beasley's position, either.

Williams' role as an outside receiver is important, and he has a knack for scoring TDs, but what is the salary ceiling for a complementary component on offense that is in fourth place in receptions?

Beaz got extended, Dez is expected to get done very soon and Jason Witten is signed through 2017.

 

[gmoney112]

We got the guy for 2 more seasons haha, this subject is just a tad early as it's impossible to judge a guy's projected value after his 2nd year in the league. Dez certainly didn't look like a $100m player 2 years in.

That being said, i think he's pretty underrated and he's going to end up being a good #2, but we'll probably not be able to afford him. WR's are expensive, and we have a couple of blue chip OL and possibly DL that will warrant 2nd contracts.

 

[xwalker]

That's a two way street.

Williams can't play Beasley's position, either.

Williams' role as an outside receiver is important, and he has a knack for scoring TDs, but what is the salary ceiling for a complementary component on offense that is in fourth place in receptions?

Beaz got extended, Dez is expected to get done very soon and Jason Witten is signed through 2017.

They are already getting value from drafting Williams and they have him 2 more years. Even if they don't re-sign him, he has been valuable. The primary value of most draft picks occurs during their rookie contract anyway. After their rookie contract, a team could just sign a free agent that they didn't draft. Obviously, in the case of Franchise players and QBs that is different, but for just good players, the primary value from the draft pick is based on what they do on their rookie contract.

If a team can get a quality #2 WR with a 3rd round pick every 4 years and move on at the end of their rookie contract then the team is coming out ahead.

 

[conner01]

I don't think he will see a second contract in Dallas, although I could be wrong. There are too many people to pay on offense. Frederick, Martin, Dez, etc.

You can't have high priced people at every spot.

Dallas has been really good drafting since 2010, so they just need to draft them a second WR if Street isn't it, and groom him to be ready. That's what good drafting teams have to do with the salary cap.

Of course if Williams takes something very reasonable, then he still might stay in Dallas.

Great point
It really doesn't matter if twill lights it up and has a great next two years. You can only have so many players on your roster in their second contract
Twill can make the next two pro bowls and be too expensive or he could just be a good number 2 which I think he is, and still be too expensive
If you are a starter caliber player even a reasonable second deal is so much more than a rookie deal and with dez I don't see us having a good second contract receiver
You can only tie so much money up in each position

 

[conner01]

They are already getting value from drafting Williams and they have him 2 more years. Even if they don't re-sign him, he has been valuable. The primary value of most draft picks occurs during their rookie contract anyway. After their rookie contract, a team could just sign a free agent that they didn't draft. Obviously, in the case of Franchise players and QBs that is different, but for just good players, the primary value from the draft pick is based on what they do on their rookie contract.

If a team can get a quality #2 WR with a 3rd round pick every 4 years and move on at the end of their rookie contract then the team is coming out ahead.

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In the cap era when you have an elite reciever I think that's exactly what you have to do

 

[jrumann59]

I realize that Dez is way better.

But Williams is yet another long list of examples proving that you can plug WRs into this offense with this QB and get good production.

On a per target basis, his production is almost identical to Dez'

Yes but if you put lets say Street on the other side can Williams produce going against another teams top corner? It is the old Alvin Harper issue Alvin thought he was #1 Tampa gave him #1 money to go there and he did not have the skills to be #1.

 

[DFWJC]

Yes but if you put lets say Street on the other side can Williams produce going against another teams top corner? It is the old Alvin Harper issue Alvin thought he was #1 Tampa gave him #1 money to go there and he did not have the skills to be #1.

If you're asking if Williams is a number1, the answer is definitely not.

But like Laurent Robinson and Miles Austin did, he would finish in the top 5 or 10 in the league in TDs (and maybe even yards) if he had the targets. Odds are, Romo would just spread it around even more so that Williams, Street, Beasley and maybe Witten and Escobar would get more targets.
It'd be more like New Orleans or New England, with no true number one.
The total yards and TDs would be very close to what they are now, but if we were missing Dez (is not going to happen, btw) then our redzone efficiency would go down.

 

[ghst187]

the short answer is no way, don't pay him. I think the coaches want Street to take his place anyway. Also, finding a #2 WR via draft or FA isn't difficult.
What the #2 WR FA usually doesn't realize is how much they profit off of having a top 3 WR across from them drawing double coverage and constant safety help, i.e. making them look better than they truly are and thus demanding paid like a #1.

 

[jrumann59]

If you're asking if Williams is a number1, the answer is definitely not.

But like Laurent Robinson and Miles Austin did, he would finish in the top 5 or 10 in the league in TDs (and maybe even yards) if he had the targets. Odds are, Romo would just spread it around even more so that Williams, Street, Beasley and maybe Witten and Escobar would get more targets.
It'd be more like New Orleans or New England, with no true number one.
The total yards and TDs would be very close to what they are now, but if we were missing Dez (is not going to happen, btw) then our redzone efficiency would go down.

NO had a true number 1 he was a TE/WR Jimmy Graham. Even when Miles was being paid as #1 he was good for RAC at least. Williams is a Solid WR but he does not do anything that makes him stand out as threat that the other team will worry about. Laurent Robinson is prime example of whay you do not pay a solid #2 the #1 money. He was good at getting open when plays broke down but was not very good at getting open initially.

 

[DFWJC]

NO had a true number 1 he was a TE/WR Jimmy Graham. Even when Miles was being paid as #1 he was good for RAC at least. Williams is a Solid WR but he does not do anything that makes him stand out as threat that the other team will worry about. Laurent Robinson is prime example of whay you do not pay a solid #2 the #1 money. He was good at getting open when plays broke down but was not very good at getting open initially.

Hey, it's not like we don't both agree that you never pay #1 money to a #2 WR .
Can't imagine anyone would pay that to Williams.

Btw, New Orleans will still throw for massive yards and TDs this year.
So will New England
And so would Dallas even if we had no true #1.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think TWill will get a nice 2nd contract, just not from Dallas.
Alvin Harper 2.0.

It depends.... Does he get a game sealing slant in Super Bowl in San Fran? ;-)