TO: "Jerry, you ran for the woods"

[thechosen1n2]

I have seen just as much blame shoveled on Jerry, Wade, Garrett, Romo, and injuries as I have on Owens. The fact it there was an entire meltdown across the board. The only people making Owens a scapegoat are Owens and his supporters. Others are glad he is gone. That makes him a scapegoat? No, it means they are glad he is gone.

you are right again, but he was the only one let go. He was the scapegoat from the standpoint that he was let go to pacify all those who wanted blood for the failure of last season. People wanted something/someone to blame. Owens was sacrificed to them, and immediately things started to quiet down as if that was most of the cowboys problem. Like I said dont group everyone with your thinking. You may have valid reason for not wanting Owens here, many many others regurgitate what they think they are suppose to say about owens based on what the media has said, and past behavior. It works both ways many TO fans try to act as if hes never done anything wrong or could not have handled any situation differently. Both groups are wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Im not some blind TO backer, but dude was pretty good for 2.5 years here in dallas, (you yourself admitted that). He worked hard, he played through injuries. Yeah he had some "TO watch what you say moments" but for the most part he was cool. The issue came when the fight about him and witten started, (which none of us believe), and then the meeting about him going to garrett about the offense. Well...if there is a problem at work, and things werent working smoothly(and the werent working smoothly), who are you suppose to go to. UPPER MANAGEMENT. He didnt go to Jerry, or Wade, he went to the offensive coordinator...the correct chain of command. He didnt leak that, someone else did, and its not like he was complaining when the system was working well. The offense was playing terribly. TO wanted to win. TO wanted to win one for Jerry. Think about this...this release got TO 6 million more dollars, and probably one more contract, He is the biggest thing that happened to buffalo in years....and you can tell in his face he wishes he was here in Dallas with witten and romo (people that are bigger stars in dallas at least than he is). Which leads me to believe that he is not all about money or himself.

 

[Rampage]

you are right again, but he was the only one let go. He was the scapegoat from the standpoint that he was let go to pacify all those who wanted blood for the failure of last season. People wanted something/someone to blame. Owens was sacrificed to them, and immediately things started to quiet down as if that was most of the cowboys problem. Like I said dont group everyone with your thinking. You may have valid reason for not wanting Owens here, many many others regurgitate what they think they are suppose to say about owens based on what the media has said, and past behavior. It works both ways many TO fans try to act as if hes never done anything wrong or could not have handled any situation differently. Both groups are wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Im not some blind TO backer, but dude was pretty good for 2.5 years here in dallas, (you yourself admitted that). He worked hard, he played through injuries. Yeah he had some "TO watch what you say moments" but for the most part he was cool. The issue came when the fight about him and witten started, (which none of us believe), and then the meeting about him going to garrett about the offense. Well...if there is a problem at work, and things werent working smoothly(and the werent working smoothly), who are you suppose to go to. UPPER MANAGEMENT. He didnt go to Jerry, or Wade, he went to the offensive coordinator...the correct chain of command. He didnt leak that, someone else did, and its not like he was complaining when the system was working well. The offense was playing terribly. TO wanted to win. TO wanted to win one for Jerry. Think about this...this release got TO 6 million more dollars, and probably one more contract, He is the biggest thing that happened to buffalo in years....and you can tell in his face he wishes he was here in Dallas with witten and romo (people that are bigger stars in dallas at least than he is). Which leads me to believe that he is not all about money or himself.

Jordan, we got rid of all the players who bring unneeded crap to this team like Owens,Williams,Johnson and pacman.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Jordan, we got rid of all the players who bring unneeded crap to this team like Owens,Williams,Johnson and pacman.

Ive already acknowledged that owens was a distraction(whether it was his fault or not). Evidently you dont read my whole post. I even clowned Owen fans that act as if hes never had a problem, and I have said I hope we are better.....Another thing this is not about getting rid of people who bring needless crap to this team, because people talked about romo this and romo that, and his preparation and how hes not as focused as he should be and hes still here, all while no one talked about tank johnson. He did nothing wrong while he was here, and brought no media attention....he just sucked.

For the record I dont think romo should be gone. Im just saying this was not all about the reason you stated.

 

[Rampage]

Ive already acknowledged that owens was a distraction(whether it was his fault or not). Evidently you dont read my whole post. I even clowned Owen fans that act as if hes never had a problem, and I have said I hope we are better.....Another thing this is not about getting rid of people who bring needless crap to this team, because people talked about romo this and romo that, and his preparation and how hes not as focused as he should be and hes still here, all while no one talked about tank johnson. He did nothing wrong while he was here, and brought no media attention....he just sucked.

For the record I dont think romo should be gone. Im just saying this was not all about the reason you stated.

tank spent time in jail and brought negative attention to the team along with playing like garbage. also it's a lot easier to replace wrs than qbs.

 

[thechosen1n2]

tank spent time in jail and brought negative attention to the team along with playing like garbage. also it's a lot easier to replace wrs than qbs.

yeah tank spent time in jail...I know that, but tank was not talked about the whole time he was here. We picked him up in the middle of the 13-3 season (i think thats right) and never heard anything about him. The reason we got rid of tank had nothing to do with "needless crap"!. If he was playing at the level of Jay Ratliff he would still be here. The Romo example was just to say that we did not get rid of everyone that brought needless crap, and once again you totally ignored the fact that I said I in know way believe we should get rid of Romo. I think he catches undo heat as well.

Yall got it bad changing what you said, and not reading the complete thought that is conveyed.

PS...what the heck is jordan?

 

[Rampage]

yeah tank spent time in jail...I know that, but tank was not talked about the whole time he was here. We picked him up in the middle of the 13-3 season (i think thats right) and never heard anything about him. The reason we got rid of tank had nothing to do with "needless crap"!. If he was playing at the level of Jay Ratliff he would still be here. The Romo example was just to say that we did not get rid of everyone that brought needless crap, and once again you totally ignored the fact that I said I in know way believe we should get rid of Romo. I think he catches undo heat as well.

Yall got it bad changing what you said, and not reading the complete thought that is conveyed.

PS...what the heck is jordan?

a guy who would annoy everyone with his T.O. rants like you

 

[Silverstar]

He is getting older. He is no longer a top 5 Receiver, but still better than most, and he would still be the best in the nfc east. He is still good for double digit TDs. It just didnt make sense to me to let him go and eat 9 mil, with the plans to keep injury prone austin and stanback as your receivers. I would not have re-upped him after this year, but its not my money so hey thats jerry's business. The only thing I argue is 9-7 was far from TO being a distractions fault, and he was made the scapegoat.

No, he wasn't our scapegoat for not making the playoffs, he was just a hired gun that got replaced by a younger hired gun.

End of story.

 

[Hostile]

you are right again, but he was the only one let go. He was the scapegoat from the standpoint that he was let go to pacify all those who wanted blood for the failure of last season. People wanted something/someone to blame. Owens was sacrificed to them, and immediately things started to quiet down as if that was most of the cowboys problem. Like I said dont group everyone with your thinking. You may have valid reason for not wanting Owens here, many many others regurgitate what they think they are suppose to say about owens based on what the media has said, and past behavior. It works both ways many TO fans try to act as if hes never done anything wrong or could not have handled any situation differently. Both groups are wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Im not some blind TO backer, but dude was pretty good for 2.5 years here in dallas, (you yourself admitted that). He worked hard, he played through injuries. Yeah he had some "TO watch what you say moments" but for the most part he was cool. The issue came when the fight about him and witten started, (which none of us believe), and then the meeting about him going to garrett about the offense. Well...if there is a problem at work, and things werent working smoothly(and the werent working smoothly), who are you suppose to go to. UPPER MANAGEMENT. He didnt go to Jerry, or Wade, he went to the offensive coordinator...the correct chain of command. He didnt leak that, someone else did, and its not like he was complaining when the system was working well. The offense was playing terribly. TO wanted to win. TO wanted to win one for Jerry. Think about this...this release got TO 6 million more dollars, and probably one more contract, He is the biggest thing that happened to buffalo in years....and you can tell in his face he wishes he was here in Dallas with witten and romo (people that are bigger stars in dallas at least than he is). Which leads me to believe that he is not all about money or himself.

Owens was let go because the coaching staff felt they needed to move on with some younger players and move towards a ball control offense. He carried a high price tag for what in 2008 was less than an acceptable return and then he added the drama on top of the declining skills.

I'm actually surpsied it took so long to make Jerry see the light.

There was nothing scapegoat about it. It is a business decision to move forward.

Will some see it as him made a scapegoat? Of course. It takes all kinds of opinions to make things go around.

 

[thechosen1n2]

No, he wasn't our scapegoat for not making the playoffs, he was just a hired gun that got replaced by a younger hired gun.

End of story.

Im all for that...

 

[thechosen1n2]

Owens was let go because the coaching staff felt they needed to move on with some younger players and move towards a ball control offense. He carried a high price tag for what in 2008 was less than an acceptable return and then he added the drama on top of the declining skills.

I'm actually surpsied it took so long to make Jerry see the light.

There was nothing scapegoat about it. It is a business decision to move forward.

Will some see it as him made a scapegoat? Of course. It takes all kinds of opinions to make things go around.

1. Whats funny is that is what we should have been doing when TO was here.

2. Its not a business decision when you spend 9 mil for something thats not there.

3. And if TO carried to high a price tag for what he gave you, what was the return on investment in roy williams.

4.Some see him as the scapegoat because some put it out there like that.

 

[thechosen1n2]

a guy who would annoy everyone with his T.O. rants like you

So what do you call those who get annoyed, and take it personally because someone has a difference of opinion...on a message board at that, a place made for different opinions.

No opinion on here has upset me, to me it makes for interesting conversation because I think we all want the same thing. The cowboys to get 6.

When it comes to football I bleed blue and silver. I hope for nothing more than for roy to be what we thought he was coming out of texas. I hope for Romo to get that fire he had the first year and a half. I hope we dont miss TO at all (even if i have to hear I told you we would be better without him all over this board). So nothing I say should make you call me out my name, and if you do thats on you. Its broadish to me, but its on you.

 

[zrinkill]

Hey Owens ....... see my sig.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Hey Owens ....... see my sig.

cute, even some what witty....i hope you are right, cause I have been pissed ever since santonio holmes tapped his toes, since wiesenhunt and company called a slant in the endzone when you could have tossed it up in the corner for fitzgerald... oh i forgot they decided they werent gonna use him to the second half.

 

[trashy]

Between all the local commentaters ('TheTicket' guys, Dale Hansen, Randy whats-his-name, etc.) and ESPN all hating on T.O. since he first arrived I guess I shouldn't have been surprised when they started the drum-beat of "T.O. must go T.O. must go." I read all of their comments when he was traded. I lost track of how many times they said he was 'locker room poison,' a disruption. But the fact is you can't find any Cowboys players willing to go on record to back any of that up.

From my perspective it was just a bunch of hogwash the sports talking heads conjured up to keep up ratings and give them something else to talk about when we didn't play so well. I no longer listen to them and have boycotted sports news in general for the last year or so.

So I wonder who will get the blame when this year doesn't pan out like we hoped? Romo? Wade? Williams? Jerry?

 

[thechosen1n2]

Between all the local commentaters ('TheTicket' guys, Dale Hansen, Randy whats-his-name, etc.) and ESPN all hating on T.O. since he first arrived I guess I shouldn't have been surprised when they started the drum-beat of "T.O. must go T.O. must go." I read all of their comments when he was traded. I lost track of how many times they said he was 'locker room poison,' a disruption. But the fact is you can't find any Cowboys players willing to go on record to back any of that up.

From my perspective it was just a bunch of hogwash the sports talking heads conjured up to keep up ratings and give them something else to talk about when we didn't play so well. I no longer listen to them and have boycotted sports news in general for the last year or so.

So I wonder who will get the blame when this year doesn't pan out like we hoped? Romo? Wade? Williams? Jerry?

Im not sure the year wont pan out, but if it does its not as simple s TO is gone, and if doesnt its not as simple as TO is gone. When the team was healthy we were 13-3 with TO, when it wasnt we went 9-7 (and the team was more talented). Either way many will make this season about TO with out looking at the reasons why we succeeded or failed. Now if wittens productions goes down, and the wideouts dont prodcuce and romo stays healthy, then it was the wrong decision...point blank period. If williams steps up, and crayton is tj like, and we find a gem in stanback or hurd etc, and witten is still witten, it was the right business decisions (minus the money part of it).

disclaimer...i know production or statistics may go down do to us running the ball more.

 

[Rampage]

did you guys watch our starters scoring drive last night? see how not only Romo but the playcalling was designed to spread the ball around. that is a result of Owens being gone

 

[Mash]

The playcalling and Romo decisions were the reason the ball was spread around.

Garrett calls the play in which it has a primary receiver.....Romo decides from the coverage on where to throw it......Owens doesnt make those decisions and as far as I know......never created a gameplane for the offense.

Owens may have been a distraction after the game....or during the week asking for the ball.......but......

Like Romo said last nite.....if I have to spread it around or throw it 10 straight times to a player......as long as we score.....it doesnt matter.

note: Witten asked for more passes his way also....according to Romo....but that was in the locker room and private.

Im glad Owens is gone.....because he cost too much and we acquired RW and gave him #1 receiver money......also Owens is older....losing a step and the younger players needed playing time.

But blaming Owens for poor playcalling and bad decisions by Romo is hogwash IMHO.