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When your WR's drop your passes you tend to look for better hands, that's why Beasley, Witten, and Dunbar got most of the looks...
 
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CyberB0b said:
So you think Matt Cassel is the answer? The guy on his 5th team who couldn't beat out Tyrod Taylor or EJ Manuel?
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Noone we have is the answer behind romo....the point is Weeden sucks *** should not be on a team....as far as Cassel, he cant be worse..he did well in NE....he is a much smarter and better backup than weeden...
 
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We all knew that if Weeden had to play any significant amount of time this year the season was probably over.................well it happened.
 

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What Weeden gave us today was enough to win games against bad teams. So I'm worried that we might go like 3-5 or 3-6 while Romo is out and then end up with neither a high draft pick nor a playoff berth, or maybe sneak into the playoffs with bad positioning. That's why in past years I 've advocated for cheap, lousy backup quarterbacks, saying the Cowboys invest way too much money there. Unless your team is a SB contender, it's just not worth having a quality backup quarterback. Of course, I think before the season you could make the case that Dallas is a SB contender, and therefore a quality backup quarterback might be worth the investment this year. That might turn out to be right. But I'm still not sure it's really going to end up well.
 
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Eddie said:
Any amateur coach would have done the same. Put 8 men in the box, stuff the run. We don't have the WR's to beat anyone deep. There's no respect on the D. Get used to it.

Then again, our D gave up 39 points. Not sure Romo could have rescued today's game.
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It's not as simple as throwing deep. This idea that 8 in the box means throwing deep is just not an accurate understanding of how this game really works...

Going deep requires your QB to have enough time to allow your WR's get down field..it also requires time for the QB to determine which side the safety help is rolling to..you don't always have this amount of time when a team is rushing with 8 in the box...also this scenario at best results in some deep low percentage routes. This isn't a great strategy for success or longevity in the NFL.

What a stacked box does allow is intermediate mismatches and quicker hot reads. A good QB will understand that there is a mismatch on the field and be able to find it consistently enough to beat it...it's actually pretty rare for a team to stack the box and stay that way.

Point being that any WR at this level can get open on the intermediate routes that a stacked box brings. Assuming you have a QB with the ability to read the defense and get the ball there before the pressure gets to him or the hole in the secondary closes. Weeden lacked confidence. We can't know if the coaches told him to not throw these routes or if it was his decision and he decided to not risk it. Only Weeden and the coaches could know this.

Like others have said...expect this to continue and intensify in the coming weeks. Billichek is known as a coach that makes you beat him with your weaknesses. Spagnola will do this. Rob Ryan will do this.
The coaches need to decide if they are going to count on Weeden to figure out how to make these reads or get him out of there and simplify the offense with Cassell.

Lord help us.
 
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CyberB0b said:
So you think Matt Cassel is the answer? The guy on his 5th team who couldn't beat out Tyrod Taylor or EJ Manuel?
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Matt Cassell threw for 3000 yards 3 times. He has a lifetime QB rating of 80. He went to a probowl and took 2 teams to the playoffs....the bills decided to go young. Now I'm not saying he is Brady or Rodgers..but he has shown to be able to be competent...Or at least more competent than Weeden has shown to be.
 
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superonyx said:
Matt Cassell threw for 3000 yards 3 times. He has a lifetime QB rating of 80. He went to a probowl and took 2 teams to the playoffs....the bills decided to go young. Now I'm not saying he is Brady or Rodgers..but he has shown to be able to be competent...Or at least more competent than Weeden has shown to be.
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Well, that is all in the past. Right now, he was the #3 QB behind Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel. Today's performance is about the best you will get from a backup QB in the NFL. The defense crapped the bed.
 
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CyberB0b said:
Well, that is all in the past. Right now, he was the #3 QB behind Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel. Today's performance is about the best you will get from a backup QB in the NFL. The defense crapped the bed.
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Well he was actually 2nd behind Taylor. EJ Manuel got a promotion when Cassell was traded. Not that it matters that much.

I disagree that Weeden is as good as it gets in the backup category in the NFL. I would say that many of the better backups can do better than the dump off fest we saw today. Weeden has a good arm. His head just isn't NFL QB level.

I agree our defense crapped the bed. However why do people need to find a single point of blame and dismiss the rest? Sure the defense cost us...but does that make it any less true that Weeden could move us into even a single FG the entire second half? Sure T Will dropped a pass. But that doesn't make Weeden or the defense suddenly not matter. Losing is a team effort and each area we sucked in deserves its own attention.
 
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superonyx said:
Matt Cassell threw for 3000 yards 3 times. He has a lifetime QB rating of 80. He went to a probowl and took 2 teams to the playoffs....the bills decided to go young. Now I'm not saying he is Brady or Rodgers..but he has shown to be able to be competent...Or at least more competent than Weeden has shown to be.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking and I for one can't stomach seeing Weeden, out there being indecisive and becoming Captain Check Down and heaven forbid he's the starter against New England and as you said Belichick is notorious for having his defense playing the short routes and can generate a lot of ints doing this and if that happens Dallas will get ran out of AT&T stadium by that NE offense at least with Cassel they would be able to function the whole playbook buckle up this is going to be a wild ride.
 

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ringmaster said:
This is exactly what I'm thinking and I for one can't stomach seeing Weeden, out there being indecisive and becoming Captain Check Down and heaven forbid he's the starter against New England and as you said Belichick is notorious for having his defense playing the short routes and can generate a lot of ints doing this and if that happens Dallas will get ran out of AT&T stadium by that NE offense at least with Cassel they would be able to function the whole playbook buckle up this is going to be a wild ride.
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I wouldn't put it pass the coaching staff telling him to play it safe an check it down. They played not to lose an got embarrassed
 
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