Tom Brady suspended for four games

theogt

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the accused has the right to face their accuser for cross examination in front of a jury.....she didn't cooperate because she was paid to disappear and with no victim/accuser, the prosecutor can NOT go forward with the case...
They didn't need her to cooperate. They didn't need to her to "face her accuser". They didn't need her participation at all. They could have simply submitted the prior testimony as evidence. However, the prosecutor informed the judge that they could not use her prior testimony because they did not believe it to be true. Based on their belief that she was untruthful, they decided not to pursue the charges.
 

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Yes they could go forward without the victim. The problem in this case was that she had given contradictory statements in different interviews so they deemed her prior testimony not credible enough to stand up on its own. She also would likely have been destroyed on the stand because much of what she said made no sense and didn't fit known facts.

You are wasting your time. He has insider evidence and has actually seen the medical reports and photos of the bruising from the nasty beating that was put on her. The same reports and photos that the NFL investigator used to determine that Hardy only pushed her....wait for his reply. You will see.
 

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PFT reported there were two gauges and the ref didn't know if he used the defective gauge to check the balls at halftime or the good one. Why this has been deemed of no significance to the NFL is puzzling. In the final analysis, as long as the suspension isn't reduced to exclude the Pats game against the Cowboys, I'm not going to complain.:)

Neither gauge was defective, they just gave slightly different readings. The patriots balls were under on both gauges.
 

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No, they're different charges an the courts treat them differently. The NFL enacted a new domestic violence policy in 2014, and the courts have ruled that it cannot retroactively apply its new policy. Brady's violations have nothing to do with that policy.

Yes, you're right. But he's a repeat cheater and I think he's in denial dude. We're going to have to intervene here I think.
 

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They didn't need her to cooperate. They didn't need to her to "face her accuser". They didn't need her participation at all. They could have simply submitted the prior testimony as evidence. However, the prosecutor informed the judge that they could not use her prior testimony because they did not believe it to be true. Based on their belief that she was untruthful, they decided not to pursue the charges.

yeah that's why the Judge found him guilty because her story and FACTS was inconsistent....keep drinking the Koolaid
 

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yeah that's why the Judge found him guilty because her story and FACTS was inconsistent....keep drinking the Koolaid
this judge you are so proud of is notorious for only believing the woman. But then again little things like that matter not at all to those with an agenda.
 

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yeah that's why the Judge found him guilty because her story and FACTS was inconsistent....keep drinking the Koolaid
Yes, the judge found him guilty based on testimony that the prosecutors later determined to be unreliable and refused to use as evidence.
 

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I saw a Tom interview earlier & he talks about himself in the 3rd person.

I know some do but that sounds so weird!

WELL I ACCEPT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TOM BRADY..
 

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Yes, the judge found him guilty based on testimony that the prosecutors later determined to be unreliable and refused to use as evidence.

you forgot the witness in the other room that also backed her story... and the prosecutor did NOT find her unreliable, he stated without victims cooperation, he could not prosecute.,

"The state asked for the charges to be dismissed after Holder didn't make herself available for the trial. She was not able to be located in order to serve, court officials said.

District Attorney Andrew Murray told the judge his office went through "great lengths" to track Nicole Holder down. When she didn't show up for court Monday, Murray says it appears she intentionally made herself unavailable to the State.

"Prosecutors last spoke with the victim in October and November 2014," a written statement from the DA's office stated. "During those conversations, the victim expressed that she did not want to participate in another trial. The District Attorney's Office has not been able to reach the victim since November 2014."

He said the state visited her home, employer and even put surveillance on a new home where she was believed to be living. Murray said it would not be just or appropriate to move the case forward without Holder.

"We are committed to stopping domestic violence," Murray said. "But we also want victims to come forward and cooperate."

The State said it had reliable information that Holder reached a settlement before the trial began. The judge granted the prosecutor's request for a dismissal on the assault on a female and communicating threats charges.
 
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I will feel pissed if i was the other 3 NFC east team right now,I also dont think this suspension is going to be reduced.lets hope we are picking at 31st next year.
 

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yeah that's why the Judge found him guilty because her story and FACTS was inconsistent....keep drinking the Koolaid

Every time you type, you prove you have no clue about the facts of the case. She gave multiple statements to police and the story was different each time. The judge that found him guilty which is the equivelant of being indicted totally disregarded his story and chose to believe her entire story. Did I mention that judge is a member of a battered women's advocacy group and has found every single man accused of domestic violence that has come before her guilty. Hardly and impartial judge or fair trial. That why they opted to appeal to a jury trial which is their right. The prosecutor dropped the charges because her prior statements were contradictory and did not match up well will other known facts. He felt he couldn't get a conviction without her. I have no idea how it came to be that she disappeared and refused to cooperate. It doesn't really matter at this point. Hardy went through the legal process and came out with no charges or conviction.
 

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you forgot the witness in the other room that also backed her story... and the prosecutor did NOT find her unreliable, he stated without victims cooperation, he could not prosecute.
The other "witness" admitted that she never saw anything. There's nothing she could testify to.

The prosecutors told the judge in the retrial that they could not vouch for the truthfulness of her trial testimony because there were numerous conflicts between her statements to the police and her trial testimony. They did not need her to testify again in the retrial if they believed her testimony to be truthful -- however, they did not believe it to be truthful.
 
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