Tom Coughlin annoyed over non-call on Romo-Hurd TD

[khiladi]

Stop whining Tom... you were clearly outcoached on that play... if you have to rely on a little move like that, your a bigger loser than I thought...

even if Patrick moved a little, it still doesn't take away from the fact that the call totally burned you, not the 'illegal' motion on Patrick...

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Mat McBriar puts on inside the ten, maybe five. Then three and out with Lardy McFatarse at QB?

Dude that's a classic post right there...

 

[superpunk]

The list of things that actually don't upset Tom Coughlin is relatively short. This is just another in a long line.

 

[peplaw06]

I feel good about the Giants' prospects for this week if they're still talking about an illegal procedure no-call two days after the game.

 

[Bach]

This never gets old

 

[Danny White]

I noticed Crayton jump on that play, and the ref on that side definitely saw it and made a twitch towards his flag but then didn't pull it.

My guess is that there are dozens of "borderline" plays every game like this where a ref sees a hold or contact or a twitch and has to make a judgement call if it is worth throwing the flag over. I'm glad he held off in this instance!

But yeah, live and in real-time, I thought we were definitely going to get flagged on that motion.

 

[FCBarca]

Coughlin has his point, there's no reason to consider it 'crying' when it was a pretty clear penalty...The Cowboys dodged one there and he's also right that with a 3rd and long it could've been a very different outcome from there.

Giants played well, they can't be faulted for that...Particularly, with several of their key players out...They had no problem moving the ball on us but true, with J-Load at the helm they faced a tougher prospect of marching down the field...Then again, you never know.

So was it a key play that was missed?...My own unbiased opinion is that it was a key play...And let's face it, the Cowboys dodged several bullets in the game and there's nothing to gloat over in the win...It was ugly, especially on D.

 

[Crown Royal]

Coughlin has his point, there's no reason to consider it 'crying' when it was a pretty clear penalty...The Cowboys dodged one there and he's also right that with a 3rd and long it could've been a very different outcome from there.

Giants played well, they can't be faulted for that...Particularly, with several of their key players out...They had no problem moving the ball on us but true, with J-Load at the helm they faced a tougher prospect of marching down the field...Then again, you never know.

So was it a key play that was missed?...My own unbiased opinion is that it was a key play...And let's face it, the Cowboys dodged several bullets in the game and there's nothing to gloat over in the win...It was ugly, especially on D.

He should be upset - it was a clear violation of the rules verbatim. That being said, there is no indication that without that play to Hurd that the Giants would have held on to a win, or even prevented a first down. Our offense was on all cylinders.

And like I said earlier, it isn't as if that was the only missed call in the game.




I don't think the call was nearly as bad or damning to the giants as the phantom offensive pass interference on Todd Heap last night.

 

[khiladi]

Coughlin has his point, there's no reason to consider it 'crying' when it was a pretty clear penalty...The Cowboys dodged one there and he's also right that with a 3rd and long it could've been a very different outcome from there.

Giants played well, they can't be faulted for that...Particularly, with several of their key players out...They had no problem moving the ball on us but true, with J-Load at the helm they faced a tougher prospect of marching down the field...Then again, you never know.

So was it a key play that was missed?...My own unbiased opinion is that it was a key play...And let's face it, the Cowboys dodged several bullets in the game and there's nothing to gloat over in the win...It was ugly, especially on D.

That still doesn't change the fact that the call by Jason Garrett totally had them surprised, so he has to rely on a little move by Patrick Crayton... Note to Tom:

Hurd burned your man, not Patrick...

The whining by Tom reveals the real issue... he was paying attention to the wrong receiver on that play...

 

[cleverusername]

The list of things that actually don't upset Tom Coughlin is relatively short. This is just another in a long line.

Coughlin is one of the most unlikable guys in the league. Even his players don't like him.

Parcells was strict but even he was funny at times.

If I made a list of the most hate-able people associated with the NFL, he would have to be in my top five. Has anyone even seen the guy smile? Man I feel sorry for his son in law.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Coughlin has his point, there's no reason to consider it 'crying' when it was a pretty clear penalty...The Cowboys dodged one there and he's also right that with a 3rd and long it could've been a very different outcome from there.

Giants played well, they can't be faulted for that...Particularly, with several of their key players out...They had no problem moving the ball on us but true, with J-Load at the helm they faced a tougher prospect of marching down the field...Then again, you never know.

So was it a key play that was missed?...My own unbiased opinion is that it was a key play...And let's face it, the Cowboys dodged several bullets in the game and there's nothing to gloat over in the win...It was ugly, especially on D.

You sound like a Giants fan.

 

[FCBarca]

You sound like a Giants fan.

That kind of logic got this country into more trouble than any of us bargained for...Open mindedness is liberating, try it

 

[theogt]

Coughlin has his point, there's no reason to consider it 'crying' when it was a pretty clear penalty...The Cowboys dodged one there and he's also right that with a 3rd and long it could've been a very different outcome from there.

Giants played well, they can't be faulted for that...Particularly, with several of their key players out...They had no problem moving the ball on us but true, with J-Load at the helm they faced a tougher prospect of marching down the field...Then again, you never know.

So was it a key play that was missed?...My own unbiased opinion is that it was a key play...And let's face it, the Cowboys dodged several bullets in the game and there's nothing to gloat over in the win...It was ugly, especially on D.

Was it a big play? Yes. Did we dodge a bullet? Yes.

But did the movement have any impact whatsoever on the play and the result of the play? Absolutely not.

So what's the point?

 

[Doomsday101]

I would have like the refs to call some holding that the Giants were getting away with as well but that did not happen. So complain all you want Tom

 

[FCBarca]

Was it a big play? Yes. Did we dodge a bullet? Yes.

But did the movement have any impact whatsoever on the play and the result of the play? Absolutely not.

So what's the point?

Is that how they call penalties in the NFL now?...It doesn't impact the result of the play so don't bother calling it?...That is perhaps how it should be called but that's not how the game is called...It's the letter of the law/rules.

For example, the whole extra man on the field call...A guy running out of bounds before the ball is snapped...He isn't in the play and isn't impacting the outcome of the play but if his foot is still in bounds when that ball is snapped, that flag gets thrown.

It's just the way it is, a penalty is a penalty whether or not it would've changed the outcome.

I won't argue that it's a silly thing to call but it is what it is.

 

[Da Hammer]

I agree. For the first time in a VERY LONG time I do not fear 3rd and long

yea and u know wat with this offense u expect them to convert on 3rd and long with Romo throwing to all our playmakers and thats without Glenn!!! Our offense has to be top 3 in most exciting offenses in the NFL!

 

[Wolfpack]

Tom should compair notes with Gibbs on how to send sour grape tapes to the league.

 

[theogt]

Is that how they call penalties in the NFL now?...It doesn't impact the result of the play so don't bother calling it?...That is perhaps how it should be called but that's not how the game is called...It's the letter of the law/rules.

For example, the whole extra man on the field call...A guy running out of bounds before the ball is snapped...He isn't in the play and isn't impacting the outcome of the play but if his foot is still in bounds when that ball is snapped, that flag gets thrown.

It's just the way it is, a penalty is a penalty whether or not it would've changed the outcome.

I won't argue that it's a silly thing to call but it is what it is.

No, it's not how they call penalties. But we're not deciding whether or not the penalty should have been called. Obviously it should have been. We're deciding whether or not anyone should give a damn whether it was called. Clearly it didn't impact the result of the play. It's a technicality that had no impact on the game other than the technicality existing itself (or in this case not existing). It's not like some holding penalty that sprung loose a long TD run.

It's also very unlikely that it would have impacted the result of the entire game had it actually been called.

 

[Kilyin]

Coughlin has his point, there's no reason to consider it 'crying' when it was a pretty clear penalty...The Cowboys dodged one there and he's also right that with a 3rd and long it could've been a very different outcome from there.

Giants played well, they can't be faulted for that...Particularly, with several of their key players out...They had no problem moving the ball on us but true, with J-Load at the helm they faced a tougher prospect of marching down the field...Then again, you never know.

So was it a key play that was missed?...My own unbiased opinion is that it was a key play...And let's face it, the Cowboys dodged several bullets in the game and there's nothing to gloat over in the win...It was ugly, especially on D.

Dodged several bullets? Like what?

And as far as the rest of your garbage, it ain't cheatin' unless you get caught. It's not the Cowboys fault the ref didn't throw the flag, and no amount of pissing and moaning by Coughlin is going to make a magical fairy named Mike Perreira float down from the heavens and give him a 'do-over'.

Point being, he should be a man, suck it up, and play better next time, so he won't have to cry about a flag that didn't get thrown.

 

[FCBarca]

No, it's not how they call penalties. But we're not deciding whether or not the penalty should have been called. Obviously it should have been. We're deciding whether or not anyone should give a damn whether it was called. Clearly it didn't impact the result of the play. It's a technicality that had no impact on the game other than the technicality existing itself (or in this case not existing). It's not like some holding penalty that sprung loose a long TD run.

It's also very unlikely that it would have impacted the result of the entire game had it actually been called.

This is what you said, initially.

But did the movement have any impact whatsoever on the play and the result of the play? Absolutely not.

So what's the point?

My response was about whether the impact has any bearing on whether a penalty should be called or not...It doesn't, a penalty is a penalty...This kind of no impact penalty happens in just about every game.

And it being 'unlikely that it would have impacted the result of the entire game had it actually been called' is Cowboy bias, let's face it....It was 3rd down at a crucial juncture in the game as the gap was only a FG...Failure to convert in a 3rd and long and the ball goes back to NYG with plenty of time to tie or go ahead rather than being down 10 pts as the resulting no call turned out...So, intimating it is unlikely is a stretch...The sequence of events that could've followed would've completely changed...It was a pivotal noncall.