Tom Curran on Cowboys locker room

[5Countem5]

5Countem5,

What part do you refute? What's so funny? You laugh at me but offer no defense for your guy Team Obliterater.

So, cutting a guy (iOwens), who does and says what ever the heck he wants, has no accountability for what he says or does, has eratic behavior...ect.. isn't going to send this team a message.

Jerry's pet...

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That is funny to you?

It makes perfect sense to me.

The hatred cracks me up. You are so convinced TO is the problem, based on what ESPN tells you, that cannot see past it.
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It's a shame really. I'm sure you are a great fan, but this obsession is ruining any chance you have at enjoying the team.

TO stays, get used to it.

 

[bbgun]

5Countem5,

What part do you refute? What's so funny? You laugh at me but offer no defense for your guy Team Obliterater.

So, cutting a guy (iOwens), who does and says what ever the heck he wants, has no accountability for what he says or does, has eratic behavior...ect.. isn't going to send this team a message.

Jerry's pet...

Send message...

That is funny to you?

It makes perfect sense to me.

You're arguing with a man who's dedicated his life to not noticing things. If you're looking for posts of his that have been critical of the team or management, you can find them on the head of a pin--with plenty of room to spare.

 

[DWhite Fan]

At least they are just waving belts around like junior high kids and not, sayyyy, stabbing each other in the neck.

No, they are too busy stabbing each other in the back:starspin

 

[5Countem5]

You're arguing with a man who's dedicated his life to not noticing things. If you're looking for posts of his that have been critical of the team or management, you can find them on the head of a pin--with plenty of room to spare.

Said several times Wade needs to go...What more do you want?

Screaming bloody murder everyday?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I have a nice ocean front property in Kansas he may be interested in.

I have that market bud. Find some ocean front property somewhere else. :laugh2:

 

[Arch Stanton]

The dominoes games etc. is a symbol of a locker room that just does not get it. We saw a little of this kind of childishness last year when we saw video of Stanback play-wrestling with a teammate while Colombo and McQuistin sat back and were amused the week before the divisional playoff game. If having a loose locker room was associated with a team that won, nobody would care. This is a symptom. Dominoes are not bad. A childish bunch of players who are not professional and mature is. Again, it would not be an issue if we won. So, until we do, these symptoms of a poorly controlled team will continue to be noticed and reported.

Imagine if it were a classroom. If you know in advance that they have poor test scores and you walk in and see a bunch of immaturity, what would you think? Shake your head and say boys will be boys? If so, congratulations. You probably have a lot in common with our laid back head coach.

The shame of it all is a lot of folks just don't get it. Unfortunately that begins with Jerry , Wade.....

 

[Arch Stanton]

What I was hoping for last offseason is that going into training camp the Cowboys would have a chip on their shoulder and they would show up to camp with a no nonsense, no monkey business "We got unfinished business to take care of" attitude after being embarassed by the Giants in the playoffs.

Instead we got Hard Knocks, train rides and Pac Man media circus.

Exactly right, and what ever happened to "Finish"?

Walk the walk, not just talk the talk. Something like actually catching the ball after you call for it to be thrown to you!

 

[DallasEast]

What I was hoping for last offseason is that going into training camp the Cowboys would have a chip on their shoulder and they would show up to camp with a no nonsense, no monkey business "We got unfinished business to take care of" attitude after being embarassed by the Giants in the playoffs.

Instead we got Hard Knocks, train rides and Pac Man media circus.

:signmast: What he said.

 

[BHendri5]

wow, another idiot media guy using stuff that goes on in all 32 lockerrooms not to mention the NBA, MLB etc etc.

they think lockerroms are suppose to be somber like when Parcells was here?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The team that Bill Parcells inherited was just like this and was on the tail end of three consecutive 5-11 seasons. People laughed when one of the first things he addressed the domino games, cleared out a clubhouse turned into a hangout, shooed players out of packed trainer's rooms and whirlpools and made players earn their star.

Now we are right back to that same environment and people like you find it as no big deal. Coach Parcells said it when he left. Soon we would be able to tell he was never there. How right he was.

Dead on. It's amazing the number of people who don't get the fact that
what goes on in the locker room matters.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The hatred cracks me up. You are so convinced TO is the problem, based on what ESPN tells you, that cannot see past it.
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It's a shame really. I'm sure you are a great fan, but this obsession is ruining any chance you have at enjoying the team.

TO stays, get used to it.[/QUOTE]

Putting a player over the team. I see why you admire him.

 

[5Countem5]

The hatred cracks me up. You are so convinced TO is the problem, based on what ESPN tells you, that cannot see past it.
l
It's a shame really. I'm sure you are a great fan, but this obsession is ruining any chance you have at enjoying the team.

TO stays, get used to it.[/QUOTE]

Putting a player over the team. I see why you admire him.

I'm not putting any player above the team.

I'm just not willing to give up one of the best players on the team just because ESPN uses him to suck in viewers like you...

 

[JordanTaber]

The team that Bill Parcells inherited was just like this and was on the tail end of three consecutive 5-11 seasons. People laughed when one of the first things he addressed the domino games, cleared out a clubhouse turned into a hangout, shooed players out of packed trainer's rooms and whirlpools and made players earn their star.

Now we are right back to that same environment and people like you find it as no big deal. Coach Parcells said it when he left. Soon we would be able to tell he was never there. How right he was.

The problem is, the end result of Parcells changing all that was a team that never went better than 9-7 in his 4 years as coach.

Plus, many players were uncomfortable playing for him. That may have been largely because he actually drafted a bunch of weak-minded players, but then what this really shows is that the issue is with the attitudes of the players themselves and not the guy who is coaching them.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The problem is, the end result of Parcells changing all that was a team that never went better than 9-7 in his 4 years as coach.

Plus, many players were uncomfortable playing for him. That may have been largely because he actually drafted a bunch of weak-minded players, but then what this really shows is that the issue is with the attitudes of the players themselves and not the guy who is coaching them.

Except owens ofcourse. He has a very strong mind.

 

[tyke1doe]

What I was hoping for last offseason is that going into training camp the Cowboys would have a chip on their shoulder and they would show up to camp with a no nonsense, no monkey business "We got unfinished business to take care of" attitude after being embarassed by the Giants in the playoffs.

Instead we got Hard Knocks, train rides and Pac Man media circus.

Don't forget "alleged Jessica Simpson sightings."

 

[wileedog]

The problem is, the end result of Parcells changing all that was a team that never went better than 9-7 in his 4 years as coach. .

How long is this ******** argument going to paraded out when Parcells inherited one of the worst rosters and scouting organizations in football? And was saddled by his owner/GM with Carter and Hutch by default to boot?

Given what Wade was given, do you think he would have even improved on 5-11 with that team considering his performance to date?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How long is this ******** argument going to paraded out when Parcells inherited one of the worst rosters and scouting organizations in football? And was saddled by his owner/GM with Carter and Hutch by default to boot?

Given what Wade was given, do you think he would have even improved on 5-11 with that team considering his performance to date?

I doubt it since Wade seems to be an X and O's guy, not a leader of men

he's not assertive, and is afraid of making the tough choices

 

[Beast_from_East]

The team that Bill Parcells inherited was just like this and was on the tail end of three consecutive 5-11 seasons. People laughed when one of the first things he addressed the domino games, cleared out a clubhouse turned into a hangout, shooed players out of packed trainer's rooms and whirlpools and made players earn their star.

Now we are right back to that same environment and people like you find it as no big deal. Coach Parcells said it when he left. Soon we would be able to tell he was never there. How right he was.

But what did that accomplish???

We won jack under Parcells, I hate to break the news to you.

Apparenlty it didnt make a difference. Playing dominos and hanging out in the whirlpool and dancing around with a WWF belt had absolutely no correlation to performance on the field.

Under both scenarios............we won jack.

Hell, we didnt even make the playoffs 50% of the time Parcells was even here, so I guess turning the lockerroom into a penitentry didnt work out that well for Tuna, did it????

 

[Beast_from_East]

I see the Parcells apologist are out in full force with the new theory that Parcells didnt have any players and that is why he won jack in 4 years.

Please.........

The 06 team (Parcell's last year) and the 07 team (Phillup's first year) were almost identical rosters.

06 team-----Wildcard (in fact we never won division under Tuna).

07 team-----Division champ and #1 seed.

So this fantasy that Parcells had a bunch of scrubs and Wade had probowlers at every position is just dumb. Yes Parcells inherited a bad team and made it better, but the 06 and 07 teams were almost identical.

Parcell's apoligist need a new argument.

 

[burmafrd]

And the BP haters need one too. The 2007 and 2008 roster was pretty near the same.