Tony Hill keeping it 100

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Watching that clip just reminds me how poorly the Cowboys' secondary played in that game, constantly took poor angles to the ball and were beat in patterns. Whether due to the Steelers having superior talent in their wide receivers or Waters, Harris, et al not playing well, at least 2 of the Steelers' touchdowns were due to blunders by Dallas...
 

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Watching that clip just reminds me how poorly the Cowboys' secondary played in that game, constantly took poor angles to the ball and were beat in patterns. Whether due to the Steelers having superior talent in their wide receivers or Waters, Harris, et al not playing well, at least 2 of the Steelers' touchdowns were due to blunders by Dallas...
That's the loss that hurts the most. To this day, that's the loss Roger says still bothers him. Most young Cowboys fans have never seen our favorite team even play in an NFC Championship game. SMH.
 

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I haven’t heard that the WR’s were getting dominated by the DBs in OTA’s.

If true it is a concern since we have a coaching staff that doesn’t scheme guys open and a group of 2nd and 3rd level receivers.

Defense is always ahead of the offense at this point. And it takes several weeks into TC before the offense catches up.
Also I don't think they are scheming in OTA's. They are instilling the basics and basic philosophy and changes.
 

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Don't have to, looking at most of the big plays when Pearson was on the team, Pearson was part of the blocking, like in Dorsett's 99 yard run, among others...

There was only 10 men on the field for Dallas on that run too. Actually Dorsett was not to be out there. He noticed there was no RB so ran on out there. But still one less player to block for him.
 

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That's the loss that hurts the most. To this day, that's the loss Roger says still bothers him. Most young Cowboys fans have never seen our favorite team even play in an NFC Championship game. SMH.

Think that's the game where Randy White recovered a squib kick by the Steelers, but tried to run with the ball, even though he had a cast on one hand, was hit and fumbled the ball back to the Steelers, and Bradshaw immediately hit an 18 yard touchdown pass. White always said that was the play he regretted the most, if he'd just fallen on the ball the Cowboys would have kept the ball...
 

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Every Cowboys fan should find the video of Tony Hill’s TD at the end of the first qtr in SB XIII. An absolute thing of beauty. Watch the unusual block by Drew Pearson too.

Tony Hill is extremely underrated. He would have been the #1 receiver on almost any team in the NFL. He just happened to play alongside a receiver in Drew P who was an All Pro, made the “All 70s Team of the Decade” and criminally is not in the NFL HOF.

Hill was a Stanford grad, and was always one of the smartest Cowboys to ever wear the star. Nice, insightful interview.

+1...He also nailed it on Dez. Think a lots teams see Dez as a player with TO or Deion type personality. Players who could never handle not being top dog and that's fine if you are in fact THE top dog but can Dez still be a #1 WR? I'm sure he believes/knows he can but so far NFL teams around the league seem to think otherwise.
 

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Should Cowboy fans be concerned that the receivers were getting dominated by the DBs during OTAs?

Tony Hill: "Not in this particular case. You've got a lot of guys on the defensive end and in the secondary who've had extensive playing time. They've been together, they understand the philosophy that they've got to perform under. There's a bunch of new receivers coming in trying to understand the system and more importantly they're just working on timing. It's one thing to go out there and try to beat a guy and it's another thing to beat a guy with timing. They want to understand what's going on and I'm sure the coaching staff is fine with that. ... I think they're going to be OK. They've got a couple wide receivers who have good speed and good moves and Dak Prescott is looking for his go-to group as opposed to a go-to guy. That's what's most important right now."

Although I agree with most of what Hill says. These kind of matchups favor the wide receivers, so there should be some degree of concern if they are being dominated. However, it's a work in progress with so many new faces, so we'll see how it develops.
 

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Did Cole Bease have a down year cause of his play or due to his limits and defenses adjusting to the routes he runs?

Beasley tore it up in 2016 on the short in and out routes taking advantage of underneath one-on-ones out of the slot. He was virtually uncoverable because the defender didn't know if he was going to break in or out since he did it so well.

Teams decided in 2017 that he was our top receiving threat and consistently bracketed him with inside and outside coverage. This allowed the bracket men to not bite when he faked the other way. Because the other receivers couldn't beat their coverage consistently, teams never were given a reason to drop the bracket.

Dallas, for the most part, did not try to use Beasley any differently, continuing to run him primarily on the short ins and outs. That may be because Beasley is a small, quick player, but not a particularly fast one. Press coverage can keep players like that from getting off the line with the DB having enough speed to make up ground when he does escape.

The Cowboys had him playing more at outside receiver during OTAs, so maybe they believe he can run routes against press coverage effectively. If he can, then it's an indictment against the staff that the coaches did not adjust to what defenses were doing and allow Beasley to take his routes further downfield.
 

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Every Cowboys fan should find the video of Tony Hill’s TD at the end of the first qtr in SB XIII. An absolute thing of beauty. Watch the unusual block by Drew Pearson too.

Tony Hill is extremely underrated. He would have been the #1 receiver on almost any team in the NFL. He just happened to play alongside a receiver in Drew P who was an All Pro, made the “All 70s Team of the Decade” and criminally is not in the NFL HOF.

Hill was a Stanford grad, and was always one of the smartest Cowboys to ever wear the star. Nice, insightful interview.

Yes he was very underrated. Here is a fun fact, in 1979 the Cowboys became the first team in NFL history to have two receivers and a running back break 1,000 yards in the same season.

Hill had 1,062 receiving, Pearson 1,026 receiving, and Dorsett 1,107 rushing. What a great team that was.
 

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Hill provides an expected and knowledgeable observation from someone who excelled and succeeded at the position. It is an observation anyone should make of someone like Dez Bryant, as opposed to someone like Michael Irvin.

To some, both men may seem exactly the same emotionally and others may see their inspirational influences as being exactly the same. Both are more dissimilar than similar in these aspects though. It is the reason why Irvin achieved greatness playing in the NFL and why Bryant appears currently stuck at a personal crossroads in his career.
I think it could even be more simpler than that. No one could ever say that Irvin wasn't producing on a level that justified whatever "headaches" came with him. Dez has the talent, but too easily was taken out of games, or CBs seem to get in his head a lot. The coaching staff is getting blamed for not scheming him open, but often Dez just wasn't winning battles and running bad routes. Dak gets blamed for the bad passes but even when the pass was there Dez wasn't consistent. No QB in the league is as consistently accurate as fans required Dak to be for Dez. He has to use that large catch radius sometimes. Its why we get on T-Will so much, as he requires unrealistic accuracy by being a body catcher.
 

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Its why we get on T-Will so much, as he requires unrealistic accuracy by being a body catcher.

He gets less passes thrown his way every year because as a body catcher, the pass has to be right on the money, and he has to be open a yard or two at least, which he isn't that often. In other words he'd be a better receiver if he didn't body catch so much (though he doesn't always body catch)...
 

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He gets less passes thrown his way every year because as a body catcher, the pass has to be right on the money, and he has to be open a yard or two at least, which he isn't that often. In other words he'd be a better receiver if he didn't body catch so much (though he doesn't always body catch)...
He could be what Laurent Robinson was to Romo if he caught with his hands on a consistent basis.
 

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He could be what Laurent Robinson was to Romo if he caught with his hands on a consistent basis.

True, but he is what he is, you could count on him for a consistent 45 catches for 700 yards and 5 tds, at least you could before his injury, and that's not bad for a no. 2 receiver....
 

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True, but he is what he is, you could count on him for a consistent 45 catches for 700 yards and 5 tds, at least you could before his injury, and that's not bad for a no. 2 receiver....
You could also count on him to not make a routine catch in a few critical moments which might cost us a game or two because he tries to make the catch with his body.
 
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